Shooting at the DC Holocaust Museum

[Fraulein Hilda]

Are black racists and bigots attracted to "the right?"

 

[Nik]

Suicide might be a right, but a state sponsored program to encourage it is euthanisia.

Well, good thing we don't have state sponsored programs to encourage it. Just to allow it.

 

[KittenKoder]

What are "gay rights?"

Answer the question, how do you "pigeonhole" me? Try with what I have posted, try to put me into your two groups. Still waiting for that wonderful binary logic to shine.

 

[AllieBaba]

Here's some more on the parallels between our modern liberals and the Nazis:

"Many are unaware that what ended in the 1940s in the gas chambers of Auschwitz, Belsen and Treblinka had far more humble beginnings in the 1930s: in nursing homes, geriatric institutions and psychiatric hospitals all over Germany. Leo Alexander,[7] a psychiatrist who worked with the Office of the Chief of Counsel for War Crimes at Nuremberg, described the process in the New England Medical Journal in July 1949:

‘The beginnings at first were merely a subtle shift in emphasis in the basic attitude of the physicians. It started with the attitude, basic in the euthanasia movement, that there is such a thing as a life not worthy to be lived. This attitude in its early stages concerned itself merely with the severely and chronically sick. Gradually the sphere of those to be included in this category was enlarged to encompass the socially unproductive, the ideologically unwanted, the racially unwanted and finally all non-Germans.’
cmf.org.uk - Abortion and Euthanasia - information on: Abortion, Euthanasia, Abort, Abortions, Lethal Injection, Mercy Killing and Obstetrics & Gynaecology

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Suicide might be a right, but a state sponsored program to encourage it is euthanisia.

Well, good thing we don't have state sponsored programs to encourage it. Just to allow it.

Allow, my ass. Anyone can kill themselves. It's euthanasia when someone else, ostensibly your government, hands you the drugs to do it.

 

[Nik]

Liberal reasoning: Removing the rights of some unworthy individuals increases rights for others.

Think abortion, euthanasia, socialized medicine.....

Euthanasia? You mean assisted suicide? Umm, thats giving someone a right, not taking it away, dumbass.

Hmmm...how many people do you know in prison because they want to commit suicide?

It's euthanasia. Alleged "mercy" killing.

"Euthanasia (the practice of killing for reasons of mercy) occurs not only at the end of life, but also at its beginning, when newborns are left to die. The so-called Bioethics Convention implements not only research on embryos, but also genetic research on adults unable to decide for themselves, who can be used only because they don’t understand what is happening to them. At the moment, the respect for human life is particularly threatened at the beginning of human life -- by abortion before birth -- and at its end by euthanasia. The fluid transition between abortion and euthanasia is quite visible when judges show increasing sympathy for parents who kill their living disabled children: the news magazine Focus recently titled an article, “Euthanasia: in the Name of Sympathy: A woman who has killed her disabled child finds mild judges, but little sympathy from the disabled,“1 for the woman was given a six-month sentence on probation -- no penalty at all.

In 1982, a British study discovered that euthanasia on newborns was already common practice, although no one admitted it publicly.2 British doctors also consider the extent of the right to abortion to include the time after birth,3 according to a medical journal of 1987: “The British Medical Association had now reformed its 17 year old euthanasia policies,4 although it declared active mercy killing illegal, it considered the decision justified not to prolong life in certain cases, such as a malformed child.“5 "

Oh, and let's not forget the Netherlands, that bastion of Nazism....strange that libs and Nazis should share so many core values:

"Once killing on demand has softened the ban on active homicide, victims are soon likely to be killed without their consent -- particularly in the case of the elderly, the infirm, the disabled and the mentally disturbed -- a consequence already to be observed in the Netherlands, according to John Keown.66 The increase of violence against patients and the killing of patients by medical personnel in German hospitals67 are serious precursors of such developments. We are well on the way to reinstating the euthanasia policies of the Third Reich,68 which carried out scientist’s (!) dreams. The supporter of active euthanasia Norbert Hoerster makes the fear of the National Socialist euthanasia responsible for Germany’s lag in admitting euthanasia: „I think that it is time that the question of euthanasia is no longer tabooed in our society under the pretext of Nazi euthanasia...“69"
Human Rights Threatened in Europe - The Euthanasia - Abortion - Bioethics - Convention

That guy said it? Wow, it must be true then!

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Gay rights is usually code for forcing me to allow schools to teach my kids that it's not aberrant.

No opt out on that teaching.

 

[Nik]

Suicide might be a right, but a state sponsored program to encourage it is euthanisia.

Well, good thing we don't have state sponsored programs to encourage it. Just to allow it.

Allow, my ass. Anyone can kill themselves. It's euthanasia when someone else, ostensibly your government, hands you the drugs to do it.

Anyone can kill themselves? Really? Please tell me exactly how a bed ridden, unable to walk/move terminally ill patient who is dying a slow death from cancer is going to kill themselves?

 

[L.K.Eder]

Well I didn't think that's what she was doing, but I can't interpret the fraulein's threads....I think I generally think she's saying the exact opposite of what I initially think she's saying.

The Nazi Party is a socialist party, for the person who wanted to know how they were "liberal".

"The National Socialist program also contained a number of points that supported democracy and even called for wider democratic rights. These, like much of the program, lost their importance as the Party evolved, and were ignored by the Nazis after they rose to power."

National Socialist Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Like all things liberal, the so-called desire for increased rights was simply a way to pull the wool over the eyes of the public until they could effectively seize power.

The NSDAP in power was not liberal. The socialist part was kicked out in 1930. The rest was purged in 1934.

Here is another information:

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is neither democratic nor for or of the people nor a republic.

Do you know the coalition partners of the NSDAP after the elections in November 1932?

 

[KittenKoder]

Here's some more on the parallels between our modern liberals and the Nazis:

"Many are unaware that what ended in the 1940s in the gas chambers of Auschwitz, Belsen and Treblinka had far more humble beginnings in the 1930s: in nursing homes, geriatric institutions and psychiatric hospitals all over Germany. Leo Alexander,[7] a psychiatrist who worked with the Office of the Chief of Counsel for War Crimes at Nuremberg, described the process in the New England Medical Journal in July 1949:

‘The beginnings at first were merely a subtle shift in emphasis in the basic attitude of the physicians. It started with the attitude, basic in the euthanasia movement, that there is such a thing as a life not worthy to be lived. This attitude in its early stages concerned itself merely with the severely and chronically sick. Gradually the sphere of those to be included in this category was enlarged to encompass the socially unproductive, the ideologically unwanted, the racially unwanted and finally all non-Germans.’
cmf.org.uk - Abortion and Euthanasia - information on: Abortion, Euthanasia, Abort, Abortions, Lethal Injection, Mercy Killing and Obstetrics & Gynaecology

Just as many parallels with the conservatives ...

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Well, good thing we don't have state sponsored programs to encourage it. Just to allow it.

Allow, my ass. Anyone can kill themselves. It's euthanasia when someone else, ostensibly your government, hands you the drugs to do it.

Anyone can kill themselves? Really? Please tell me exactly how a bed ridden, unable to walk/move terminally ill patient who is dying a slow death from cancer is going to kill themselves?

Now we're getting somewhere. You want to decide who can kill themselves.

Who should kill themselves.

 

[KittenKoder]

Gay rights is usually code for forcing me to allow schools to teach my kids that it's not aberrant.

No opt out on that teaching.

Quit avoiding the question, what pigeonhole would you place my "side" in? Funny that you focus on that one issue so easily and ignore all the others, shows what's on your mind.

This just proves why binary thinking is dangerous. Now time to get the proof that it's stupid. Answer the question or admit that it.

 

[Nik]

So apparently this guy was a birther...

James W. von Brunn: 'Obama Is Missing' | TPM Document Collection

And we all know how many left wingers are birthers. I mean thats just a classic belief of lefties these days

 

[AllieBaba]

Euthanasia? You mean assisted suicide? Umm, thats giving someone a right, not taking it away, dumbass.

Hmmm...how many people do you know in prison because they want to commit suicide?

It's euthanasia. Alleged "mercy" killing.

"Euthanasia (the practice of killing for reasons of mercy) occurs not only at the end of life, but also at its beginning, when newborns are left to die. The so-called Bioethics Convention implements not only research on embryos, but also genetic research on adults unable to decide for themselves, who can be used only because they don’t understand what is happening to them. At the moment, the respect for human life is particularly threatened at the beginning of human life -- by abortion before birth -- and at its end by euthanasia. The fluid transition between abortion and euthanasia is quite visible when judges show increasing sympathy for parents who kill their living disabled children: the news magazine Focus recently titled an article, “Euthanasia: in the Name of Sympathy: A woman who has killed her disabled child finds mild judges, but little sympathy from the disabled,“1 for the woman was given a six-month sentence on probation -- no penalty at all.

In 1982, a British study discovered that euthanasia on newborns was already common practice, although no one admitted it publicly.2 British doctors also consider the extent of the right to abortion to include the time after birth,3 according to a medical journal of 1987: “The British Medical Association had now reformed its 17 year old euthanasia policies,4 although it declared active mercy killing illegal, it considered the decision justified not to prolong life in certain cases, such as a malformed child.“5 "

Oh, and let's not forget the Netherlands, that bastion of Nazism....strange that libs and Nazis should share so many core values:

"Once killing on demand has softened the ban on active homicide, victims are soon likely to be killed without their consent -- particularly in the case of the elderly, the infirm, the disabled and the mentally disturbed -- a consequence already to be observed in the Netherlands, according to John Keown.66 The increase of violence against patients and the killing of patients by medical personnel in German hospitals67 are serious precursors of such developments. We are well on the way to reinstating the euthanasia policies of the Third Reich,68 which carried out scientist’s (!) dreams. The supporter of active euthanasia Norbert Hoerster makes the fear of the National Socialist euthanasia responsible for Germany’s lag in admitting euthanasia: „I think that it is time that the question of euthanasia is no longer tabooed in our society under the pretext of Nazi euthanasia...“69"
Human Rights Threatened in Europe - The Euthanasia - Abortion - Bioethics - Convention

That guy said it? Wow, it must be true then!

John Keown, DPhil., PhD, Rose F. Kennedy Professor of Christian Ethics at Georgetown University

 

[Nik]

Allow, my ass. Anyone can kill themselves. It's euthanasia when someone else, ostensibly your government, hands you the drugs to do it.

Anyone can kill themselves? Really? Please tell me exactly how a bed ridden, unable to walk/move terminally ill patient who is dying a slow death from cancer is going to kill themselves?

Now we're getting somewhere. You want to decide who can kill themselves.

Who should kill themselves.

I do? Thats news to me. While your making pronouncements about my beliefs, who do I think should be allowed to kill themselves, and who not?

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Gay rights is usually code for forcing me to allow schools to teach my kids that it's not aberrant.

No opt out on that teaching.

Quit avoiding the question, what pigeonhole would you place my "side" in? Funny that you focus on that one issue so easily and ignore all the others, shows what's on your mind.

This just proves why binary thinking is dangerous. Now time to get the proof that it's stupid. Answer the question or admit that it.

I have no use for gay rights, as it is defined by their leaders, and believe it has no place in conservatism.

So it has more to do with the inconsistency of that.

 

[AllieBaba]

Allow, my ass. Anyone can kill themselves. It's euthanasia when someone else, ostensibly your government, hands you the drugs to do it.

Anyone can kill themselves? Really? Please tell me exactly how a bed ridden, unable to walk/move terminally ill patient who is dying a slow death from cancer is going to kill themselves?

Now we're getting somewhere. You want to decide who can kill themselves.

Who should kill themselves.

Hmm...someone bedridden, who can't walk or move...would naturally not be able to communicate....is killed by someone else, with or without consent...

Oh, I get it. We're talking about legalizing murder here.

Where have I heard that before?

 

[Nik]

Von Brunn Email On Immigrants | TPM Document Collection

Hmm...decrying illegal immigrants as evil, etc, while saying Obama is a marxist...sure sounds left wing to me

 

[KittenKoder]

Gay rights is usually code for forcing me to allow schools to teach my kids that it's not aberrant.

No opt out on that teaching.

Quit avoiding the question, what pigeonhole would you place my "side" in? Funny that you focus on that one issue so easily and ignore all the others, shows what's on your mind.

This just proves why binary thinking is dangerous. Now time to get the proof that it's stupid. Answer the question or admit that it.

I have no use for gay rights, as it is defined by their leaders, and believe it has no place in conservatism.

So it has more to do with the inconsistency of that.

Why are you avoiding the question? I know but you need to face it, I simply don't fit into your binary thinking, I require the use of your whole brain.

 

[Nik]

Hmmm...how many people do you know in prison because they want to commit suicide?

It's euthanasia. Alleged "mercy" killing.

"Euthanasia (the practice of killing for reasons of mercy) occurs not only at the end of life, but also at its beginning, when newborns are left to die. The so-called Bioethics Convention implements not only research on embryos, but also genetic research on adults unable to decide for themselves, who can be used only because they don’t understand what is happening to them. At the moment, the respect for human life is particularly threatened at the beginning of human life -- by abortion before birth -- and at its end by euthanasia. The fluid transition between abortion and euthanasia is quite visible when judges show increasing sympathy for parents who kill their living disabled children: the news magazine Focus recently titled an article, “Euthanasia: in the Name of Sympathy: A woman who has killed her disabled child finds mild judges, but little sympathy from the disabled,“1 for the woman was given a six-month sentence on probation -- no penalty at all.

In 1982, a British study discovered that euthanasia on newborns was already common practice, although no one admitted it publicly.2 British doctors also consider the extent of the right to abortion to include the time after birth,3 according to a medical journal of 1987: “The British Medical Association had now reformed its 17 year old euthanasia policies,4 although it declared active mercy killing illegal, it considered the decision justified not to prolong life in certain cases, such as a malformed child.“5 "

Oh, and let's not forget the Netherlands, that bastion of Nazism....strange that libs and Nazis should share so many core values:

"Once killing on demand has softened the ban on active homicide, victims are soon likely to be killed without their consent -- particularly in the case of the elderly, the infirm, the disabled and the mentally disturbed -- a consequence already to be observed in the Netherlands, according to John Keown.66 The increase of violence against patients and the killing of patients by medical personnel in German hospitals67 are serious precursors of such developments. We are well on the way to reinstating the euthanasia policies of the Third Reich,68 which carried out scientist’s (!) dreams. The supporter of active euthanasia Norbert Hoerster makes the fear of the National Socialist euthanasia responsible for Germany’s lag in admitting euthanasia: „I think that it is time that the question of euthanasia is no longer tabooed in our society under the pretext of Nazi euthanasia...“69"
Human Rights Threatened in Europe - The Euthanasia - Abortion - Bioethics - Convention

That guy said it? Wow, it must be true then!

John Keown, DPhil., PhD, Rose F. Kennedy Professor of Christian Ethics at Georgetown University

Wait...a professor of Christian ethics exaggerates abortion and puts it in the worst light possible?

Shocking.