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Page was discharged with a less than honorable discharge. Was there any indication then that he was unbalanced?
Once Holmes dropped out of school, his doctor (who knew he was dangerous) did nothing further. Once Page was discharged did those who also knew he was dangerous do nothing further?
Hasn't Page been out of the service since 1998? also why did he target Sikhs? did he think they were Muslims?
He was a psychological operations analyst in the Army. His discharge reflected the fact that he had gotten in some trouble, like DUIs, and for whatever other reasons we don't know about, but he was dishonorably discharged in 1998 for patterns of misconduct, (a Pentagon official told CNN). A Dishonerable discharge is given to an enlisted man only after a general court martial, and "for reprehensible conduct."
" The Southern Poverty Law Center, a group that has studied hate crimes for decades, says on its website that Page was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power (music) band known as End Apathy "
Who are the folks who go around calling every body else sheep and sheeple which are the epitomy of the apathetic they might like to end? I suspect he was part of the paranoid community that sees a conspiracy and a one world government as just around the corner because it fits their paranoid outlook, so the exotic nature of the Sikh temple and it's members might have been a big factor.
To me it just looks like he was a very messed up individual.
In a news conference, Edwards identified him as Wade Michael Page, 40, a six-year Army enlistee. A senior law enforcement official said Page rose to the rank of sergeant before being demoted to specialist and leaving the military in 1998.
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Page was the only shooter that was involved at the temple, Edwards told reporters. He said Page received a general discharge from the military and was ineligible for reenlistment.
Two things we are going to find out about this guy when his name is released...
1) Everyone in his life knew he was crazy.
2) He was able to still get a gun much too easily.
Any takers?
We already found out something about you.
That I've seen enough of these incidents to know how they play out?
Hey, I'll add a third
3) Despite the obvious point that letting crazy people buy guns is a really, really bad idea, there will be no meaningful move to keep it from happening in the future.
Page was discharged with a less than honorable discharge. Was there any indication then that he was unbalanced?
Once Holmes dropped out of school, his doctor (who knew he was dangerous) did nothing further. Once Page was discharged did those who also knew he was dangerous do nothing further?
Hasn't Page been out of the service since 1998? also why did he target Sikhs? did he think they were Muslims?
Page was discharged with a less than honorable discharge. Was there any indication then that he was unbalanced?
Once Holmes dropped out of school, his doctor (who knew he was dangerous) did nothing further. Once Page was discharged did those who also knew he was dangerous do nothing further?
Hasn't Page been out of the service since 1998? also why did he target Sikhs? did he think they were Muslims?
He was a psychological operations analyst in the Army. His discharge reflected the fact that he had gotten in some trouble, like DUIs, and for whatever other reasons we don't know about, but he was dishonorably discharged in 1998 for patterns of misconduct, (a Pentagon official told CNN). A Dishonerable discharge is given to an enlisted man only after a general court martial, and "for reprehensible conduct."
" The Southern Poverty Law Center, a group that has studied hate crimes for decades, says on its website that Page was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power (music) band known as End Apathy "
Who are the folks who go around calling every body else sheep and sheeple which are the epitomy of the apathetic they might like to end? I suspect he was part of the paranoid community that sees a conspiracy and a one world government as just around the corner because it fits their paranoid outlook, so the exotic nature of the Sikh temple and it's members might have been a big factor.
To me it just looks like he was a very messed up individual.
Hasn't Page been out of the service since 1998? also why did he target Sikhs? did he think they were Muslims?
He was a psychological operations analyst in the Army. His discharge reflected the fact that he had gotten in some trouble, like DUIs, and for whatever other reasons we don't know about, but he was dishonorably discharged in 1998 for patterns of misconduct, (a Pentagon official told CNN). A Dishonerable discharge is given to an enlisted man only after a general court martial, and "for reprehensible conduct."
" The Southern Poverty Law Center, a group that has studied hate crimes for decades, says on its website that Page was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power (music) band known as End Apathy "
Who are the folks who go around calling every body else sheep and sheeple which are the epitomy of the apathetic they might like to end? I suspect he was part of the paranoid community that sees a conspiracy and a one world government as just around the corner because it fits their paranoid outlook, so the exotic nature of the Sikh temple and it's members might have been a big factor.
To me it just looks like he was a very messed up individual.
What's your source saying he got a dishonorable discharge. The military, quoted in the Washington Post story said he was given a General Discharge.
Wade Michael Page, military veteran, identified as Sikh temple shooter - The Washington Post
The discharge was in 1998. I wonder if it has anything to do with White Power hate group organizing. The military cracked down on this crap after McVeigh and Nichols.In a news conference, Edwards identified him as Wade Michael Page, 40, a six-year Army enlistee. A senior law enforcement official said Page rose to the rank of sergeant before being demoted to specialist and leaving the military in 1998.
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Page was the only shooter that was involved at the temple, Edwards told reporters. He said Page received a general discharge from the military and was ineligible for reenlistment.
TIME U.S.Hasn't Page been out of the service since 1998? also why did he target Sikhs? did he think they were Muslims?
He was a psychological operations analyst in the Army. His discharge reflected the fact that he had gotten in some trouble, like DUIs, and for whatever other reasons we don't know about, but he was dishonorably discharged in 1998 for patterns of misconduct, (a Pentagon official told CNN). A Dishonerable discharge is given to an enlisted man only after a general court martial, and "for reprehensible conduct."
" The Southern Poverty Law Center, a group that has studied hate crimes for decades, says on its website that Page was a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power (music) band known as End Apathy "
Who are the folks who go around calling every body else sheep and sheeple which are the epitomy of the apathetic they might like to end? I suspect he was part of the paranoid community that sees a conspiracy and a one world government as just around the corner because it fits their paranoid outlook, so the exotic nature of the Sikh temple and it's members might have been a big factor.
To me it just looks like he was a very messed up individual.
What's your source saying he got a dishonorable discharge. The military, quoted in the Washington Post story said he was given a General Discharge.
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The Armys former top psychiatrist urges caution before linking Pages horrific act to his military duty. It is too early to know whether or not his military service, which ended with a dishonorable discharge and reduction in rank from sergeant to specialist in 1998, had anything to do either with his neo-Nazi leanings or the shooting, says Elspeth Ritchie, now a Battleland contributor. But we do know that he didnt serve in combat. Hopefully this tragic episode will not serve to further stigmatize those who have served honorably.
If Page says that he thought they were Jews, he's be released by now.
If Page says that he thought they were Jews, he's be released by now.
The man is dead, moron. I suspect you see him as a real patriot.
wait until you KNOW whats happening you fools
When the media makes no mention of race, religion or motive, even in speculation, you pretty much KNOW what the story is.
Page was discharged with a less than honorable discharge. Was there any indication then that he was unbalanced?
Once Holmes dropped out of school, his doctor (who knew he was dangerous) did nothing further. Once Page was discharged did those who also knew he was dangerous do nothing further?
Page was discharged with a less than honorable discharge. Was there any indication then that he was unbalanced?
Once Holmes dropped out of school, his doctor (who knew he was dangerous) did nothing further. Once Page was discharged did those who also knew he was dangerous do nothing further?
Good questions... seriously. Although it appears his disciplinary problems in the army were alcohol related... which makes me wonder how much he was drinking.
This guy was on the SPLC's watch list... and yet he was able to buy a gun...
Page was discharged with a less than honorable discharge. Was there any indication then that he was unbalanced?
Once Holmes dropped out of school, his doctor (who knew he was dangerous) did nothing further. Once Page was discharged did those who also knew he was dangerous do nothing further?
Good questions... seriously. Although it appears his disciplinary problems in the army were alcohol related... which makes me wonder how much he was drinking.
This guy was on the SPLC's watch list... and yet he was able to buy a gun...
I support some level of gun control, and I like and donate to the SPLC every year, but I think it's pretty ridiculous that their watch list should be used to prevent people from buying guns...
Good questions... seriously. Although it appears his disciplinary problems in the army were alcohol related... which makes me wonder how much he was drinking.
This guy was on the SPLC's watch list... and yet he was able to buy a gun...
I support some level of gun control, and I like and donate to the SPLC every year, but I think it's pretty ridiculous that their watch list should be used to prevent people from buying guns...
Why not?
When a company is about to give me a credit card, they check all three credit agency ratings to make sure I'm who I say I am..
Why not make the background check for a gun be at least as thorough as the background check for a job or a credit card or a home loan?
One day, reporters and investigators figured out this guy was bad news. Dishonorably discharged from the Army, belongs to hate groups....
This is the information age! Now, yeah, maybe I'll be hassled because I might have to wait a week while I prove I'm not the Joe B131 from Colorado with the shoplifting conviction. But better that than the alternative.
He started a band that sang about how much fun it would be to kill non-white people.
He started a band that sang about how much fun it would be to kill non-white people.
What about the band Cannibal Corpse?
They sing about raping corpses, killing people, torture, mutilation, bestiality, cannibalism, and countless other unsavory things.
Should they be allowed to buy guns?