Shocker! Judge orders trial on Obama's eligibility issue

[Missourian]

You see, I'm not even going to get into this argument.

It's a fucking moronic argument, that the Supreme Court has refused to have in their court because it's so fucking moronic.

Though I'm sure now you'll start talking about how the Supreme Court is a bunch of "Liberal Muslim Socialists" or something else just as assinine.

You people just go ahead and keep on talking in your cozy little bizarro world echo chamber, I'm going to go have a conversation where I'm not wasting my time.

Sorry LWC, but you are wrong, the courts won't hear this case only based on the procedural argument that those bringing the suit don't have standing...to my knowledge, no court has ruled on the merits of the case.

If you have a link proving otherwise, I would be delighted to read it.

 

[Vast LWC]

You can't get into this argument, and I understand You want so bad for it to go away but you also cannot deal with it logically, hence the name calling. I've done the same thing, so no bad feelings bro, but you're wrong on this and you know it.

No, you see, I don't care if you morons go and shout this from the rooftops until doomsday.

I just don't like it when people like you make America look like a bunch of insane black-helicopter conspiracy-theorists.

You don't threaten me, you EMBARRASS me. I'm embarrassed to call you Americans.

 

[Vast LWC]

Sorry LWC, but you are wrong, the courts won't hear this case only based on the procedural argument that those bringing the suit don't have standing...to my knowledge, no court has ruled on the merits of the case.

If you have a link proving otherwise, I would be delighted to read it.

They didn't RULE on it, because they THREW IT OUT based on lack of merit, which is what I said.

 

[DiveCon]

um, the State of Hawai'i says he was born there and issued him a COLB, nuff said

 

[bill777]

You can't get into this argument, and I understand You want so bad for it to go away but you also cannot deal with it logically, hence the name calling. I've done the same thing, so no bad feelings bro, but you're wrong on this and you know it.

No, you see, I don't care if you morons go and shout this from the rooftops until doomsday.

I just don't like it when people like you make America look like a bunch of insane black-helicopter conspiracy-theorists.

You don't threaten me, you EMBARRASS me. I'm embarrassed to call you Americans.

That's what makes this country great. I'm not exactly thrilled that little soma popping wastes of space like you are here, but I accept you. It's all good man, when I said there were no hard feelings I wasn't kidding. The debate is what is going to get us there.....either that or bloody revolution. Which one do you want? I prefer the peaceful way.

 

[Vast LWC]

No, see, here's my real issue.

I'm embarrassed by people who champion this argument because they are attempting to remove the President of the United States from office based ona load of Bullshit.

That is commonly known as Treason.

Now, after 8 years of people being called "traitors" because they didn't support Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq based on what was in fact false information, here we have a group of people ACTUALLY COMMITTING TREASON, and it's the same group of people that were the ones doing the name-calling in the first place.

I'm also embarrassed by the "truthers" who were equally a bunch of morons.

 

[bill777]

No, see, here's my real issue.

I'm embarrassed by people who champion this argument because they are attempting to remove the President of the United States from office based ona load of Bullshit.

That is commonly known as Treason.

Now, after 8 years of people being called "traitors" because they didn't support Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq based on what was in fact false information, here we have a group of people ACTUALLY COMMITTING TREASON, and it's the same group of people that were the ones doing the name-calling in the first place.

I'm also embarrassed by the "truthers" who were equally a bunch of morons.

Let's go no further than "treason". I don't think you know what the word means. We can deal with your other concerns after you look up and correct your "treason" remark. Or maybe we won't.....it depends on you.

 

[Vast LWC]

Treason (n) : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

Attempting to remove the duly elected president of one's country by spreading vicious lies about his background is, without a doubt, covered by the preceding definition

 

[Midnight Marauder]

I dont know whether he was or not.

Yes we do know, because his mother was. And the SCOTUS has ruled more than once, if one or both parents is a natural born citizen, YOU are one as well, no matter where you are born even if it's on the freakin moon.

there's some question as to whether his mother actually relinquished her citizenship.

There is NO question of it, anywhere but in loon speculation land.

 

[bill777]

Treason (n) : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

Attempting to remove the duly elected president of one's country by spreading vicious lies about his background is, without a doubt, covered by the preceding definition

While you have the dictionary out and handy, look up "sovereign", also, ask yourself if Obama is the state. I think you're reaching here.

 

[DiveCon]

Treason (n) : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

Attempting to remove the duly elected president of one's country by spreading vicious lies about his background is, without a doubt, covered by the preceding definition

and would it be treason if that POTUS was not validly elected?

and before you answer, refer yourself to my first post in this thread

 

[Vast LWC]

Treason (n) : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

Attempting to remove the duly elected president of one's country by spreading vicious lies about his background is, without a doubt, covered by the preceding definition

While you have the dictionary out and handy, look up "sovereign", also, ask yourself if Obama is the state. I think you're reaching here.

Mr Obama, in his role as "Head of State" would in fact be covered under said definition.

 

[Missourian]

Sorry LWC, but you are wrong, the courts won't hear this case only based on the procedural argument that those bringing the suit don't have standing...to my knowledge, no court has ruled on the merits of the case.

If you have a link proving otherwise, I would be delighted to read it.

They didn't RULE on it, because they THREW IT OUT based on lack of merit, which is what I said.

Again, for the cheap seats, the suits were dismissed based on standing not on merit.

 

[Vast LWC]

Treason (n) : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

Attempting to remove the duly elected president of one's country by spreading vicious lies about his background is, without a doubt, covered by the preceding definition

and would it be treason if that POTUS was not validly elected?

and before you answer, refer yourself to my first post in this thread

The POTUS won by 7.3% of the vote. There was absolutely no indication of foul play, unlike in SOME elections I might mention.

The state of Hawaii has officially stated that Mr Obama was born there, shown documentation that he was born there, and the Supreme Court agrees.

Attempting to falsely prove that he is not a citizen, given all these facts, in order to undermine and overthrow the duly elected head of state is, by definition, Treason.

 

[bill777]

Treason (n) : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

Attempting to remove the duly elected president of one's country by spreading vicious lies about his background is, without a doubt, covered by the preceding definition

While you have the dictionary out and handy, look up "sovereign", also, ask yourself if Obama is the state. I think you're reaching here.

Mr Obama, in his role as "Head of State" would in fact be covered under said definition.

No he wouldn't. You didn't look up sovereign like I asked you to, did you? Don't even bother denying it. Obama is not a sovereign, and even as President he has to live by rules. At this point I'd like to refer you to a logical fallacy known as "circular reasoning". Enjoy.

 

[Vast LWC]

And now I must leave the boards for the evening. Night all.

 

[bill777]

By all means, get off of the boards and go do some reading for a change.

 

[DiveCon]

Treason (n) : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

Attempting to remove the duly elected president of one's country by spreading vicious lies about his background is, without a doubt, covered by the preceding definition

and would it be treason if that POTUS was not validly elected?

and before you answer, refer yourself to my first post in this thread

The POTUS won by 7.3% of the vote. There was absolutely no indication of foul play, unlike in SOME elections I might mention.

The state of Hawaii has officially stated that Mr Obama was born there, shown documentation that he was born there, and the Supreme Court agrees.

Attempting to falsely prove that he is not a citizen, given all these facts, in order to undermine and overthrow the duly elected head of state is, by definition, Treason.

the amount of the vote doesn't matter IF he was not truly eligible
i agree that the State of Hawaii says he was born there
while i think the birfers are WAY wrong, i don't see it as treason

 

[JakeStarkey]

WND is an Inquirer type online rag. You need to pour the Great Salt Lake onto its articles. Let's move on.

 

[bill777]

WND is an Inquirer type online rag. You need to pour the Great Salt Lake onto its articles. Let's move on.

I agree, WND is without any merit at all. But, there are concerns about our President's background from other quarters, and I'm not talking about his birthplace. I'd like to know more about his status when he was receiving financial aid for school.