Senate Inquiry: Abolish FEMA

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    I can't sat that I agree with this one. Just make it its own department again, with FEMA director at Cabinet level. The problem isn't with FEMA, it is with the massive buearocracy that is Homeland Security. Lets learn from the only thing that Clinton did right.
     
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    I can't help but wonder what authority the Constitution gives the federal government to even have an agency like FEMA.

    Of course, just because of what it does no one would ever succeed at removing such power from the government now that its been granted. Unless of course the people just gathered together and learned how to give themselves emergency relief. Unfortunately that kind of freedom does not exist in the world at the moment.
     
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    Necessary and Proper. Thank Hamilton, he did it. What authority does it give to create any agency?
     
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    Try Article 1, Section 8. If there's any doubt left, see the 10th amendment:

    Or to word it in a more modern way:

    "Any power not delegated to the United States federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited by the Constitution to the States (states cannot coin money, for example), are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    FEMA needs to die. We survived disasters without it in years past. They didn't just exhibit idleness and incompetence during Katrina (which you'd expect from any gov't agency, really)--no, they went above and beyond, by actively and deliberately making relief efforts by private indiviuals and local law enforcement more difficult. Firing every single FEMA employee would be a good start, but really the ideal thing would be to blacklist them from any/all government positions in the future. Or at least the management. They shouldn't be able to even get work as county dogcatchers.
     
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    So, no FBI, CIA, IRS, DEA. Should all of these Agencies fold up and be relegated to state governments?
     
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    No, they should just be folded up.
     
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    they can't do that----who we gonna blame when things screw up??? :rotflmao: All the conspiracy theories--shot to hell.
     
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    You are shitting me right? You are saying that the Federal govt. shouldn't have the authority to collect inteligence and enforce its laws? How about collect taxes? Guess your all about a central government similiar to the one under the Articles of Confederation. These agencies can do good things. Next time you have your identity stolen, your local bank is robbed, or you need your mail delivered, who will you call on without these federal agencies. Your conclusion is short sighted.
     
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    Anarchy always is.
     
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    Can I get an "Amen", bruthahs and sistahs?!?!?!
     

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