Selfish ideology aside...

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    When the poor go to emergency rooms; then, as of current; we collectively ALL pay for them anyway. (Is that Socialized, or Communistic?)

    So put away that argument that “I shouldn’t have to pay for anyone else” You already do. You can pay more, or you can pay less, but you will pay.:disbelief:
     
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    True. But no government has the right to force anyone to buy a product. End of debate.
     
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    So you oppose all taxation, yes?
     
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    No, taxes are constitutional.
     
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    Interesting...

    So 'no government has the right to force anyone to buy a product. End of debate'- unless they add it to the Constitution?

    Then you're not really standing on any principles at all, are you? It's purely a procedural objection.
     
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    Taxes are not products or services. They are not the government mandating us to give money to a corporation to purchase a product or a services. The Cronyism and Moral Hazard of the government forcing individuals to funnel their private resources to select companies is far beyond collecting taxes for the proper functions of government (i.e., national defense, the court system - the things necessary to ensure our Constitutionally protected rights).
     
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    No? If you don't want to pay for Blackwater's contract or a new bridge in Alaska or some piece of pork, and you don't pay taxes because you shouldn't be forced to buy Blackwater's services or that bridge, what happens?

    The Fed doesn't have money. It makes you buy what it wants by making you pay taxes to pay for it. Not to mention the whole 'you are the government' concept.
    Like no-bid contracts and thousand-dollar toilet seats that you either pay for or get go to prison for not paying your taxes?

    The only difference is the procedure.
     
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    Thanks for saving me the bother of explaining the glaringly obvious to the terminally stupid. :cool:
     
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    I believe I said Proper Functions of Government.

    You won't find me defending Cronyism in any form. Your attacks on Blackwater type no bids and Alaskan bridge style earmarks while at the same time using them as a pretext for Even More Abuses is pretty typical of Progressive Politics.
     
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    So taxation is ok as long as the powers that be spend them correctly?
     

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