Scotland Was Allowed To Vote On Secession. Why Can't The American States?

[bripat9643]

Why can't we do that? Because we aren't the UK. That issue was settled 150 years ago.

Settled at the point of a gun. THINK

You believe that's a good way to settle disputes?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Why can't we do that? Because we aren't the UK. That issue was settled 150 years ago.

Nothing is ever settled.

 

[bripat9643]

That's right, old Abe was so rich he could afford plaster to put between the logs of the house...and a bucket for cold days and the ominous out house....

Hey einstein. Everybody had outhouses back then.

Hey Einstein, Lincoln was one of the least wealthy Presidents ever elected. Your OP begins with a big fat lie.

Lincoln was a big time corporate lawyer and a lobbyist for the railroads.

 

[bripat9643]

Why can't we do that? Because we aren't the UK. That issue was settled 150 years ago.

Settled at the point of a gun. THINK

Yes,and who fired the first shot genius. The South started it and the North finished it. Sorry for ya.

Hitler claimed that Poland fired the first shot. That doesn't determine who is at fault.

 

[bripat9643]

America tried it 150 years ago and super-rich corporate lawyer abraham lincoln said. "Screw the will of the public. If states secede there will be less money for me and my cronies to fleece out of the citizenry. Better to have a war that kills 600,000 people."

It wasn't the secessions that started the Civil War....it was stupid South Carolina firing on a federal fort.

Nope.

 

[Harry Dresden]

That's right, old Abe was so rich he could afford plaster to put between the logs of the house...and a bucket for cold days and the ominous out house....

Hey einstein. Everybody had outhouses back then.

hey Einstein....when are you going to prove that statement you made a few months ago about Obama being the one who sets the postage rates?....

 

[Camp]

That's right, old Abe was so rich he could afford plaster to put between the logs of the house...and a bucket for cold days and the ominous out house....

Hey einstein. Everybody had outhouses back then.

Hey Einstein, Lincoln was one of the least wealthy Presidents ever elected. Your OP begins with a big fat lie.

Lincoln was a big time corporate lawyer and a lobbyist for the railroads.

You said in the OP he was a super rich corporate lawyer. I say you are mistaken. He was not. Links have been posted to show your mistake. If you still believe Lincoln was a wealthy corporate lawyer it's on you to show a link.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why can't we do that? Because we aren't the UK. That issue was settled 150 years ago.

Settled at the point of a gun. THINK

Well your side shouldn't have brought guns into the argument.

There you go again with your revisionist history.

In your mind, any American who wishes to secede from this terribly corrupt and lawless government, should be shot.

That's not what was said at all...why do you have to lie?

Sorry, but Campy thinks killing those who wish to secede, is fine. He/she/it stated this in other threads.

Those who wish to secede are just ignorant.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

The Blues States should secede, they openly admit they hate the Constitution.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Settled at the point of a gun. THINK

Well your side shouldn't have brought guns into the argument.

There you go again with your revisionist history.

In your mind, any American who wishes to secede from this terribly corrupt and lawless government, should be shot.

That's not what was said at all...why do you have to lie?

Sorry, but Campy thinks killing those who wish to secede, is fine. He/she/it stated this in other threads.

Those who wish to secede are just ignorant.

so are those who make statements and never back them up....

 

[konradv]

Why can't we do that? Because we aren't the UK. That issue was settled 150 years ago.

Settled at the point of a gun. THINK

Well your side shouldn't have brought guns into the argument.

There you go again with your revisionist history.

In your mind, any American who wishes to secede from this terribly corrupt and lawless government, should be shot.

Look who's talking! You want the same for anyone YOU say is a socialist.

You clearly do not understand what libertarians stand for....

Shooting people they don't agree with in the head? That's what I get from you. Why should your "principles" be trusted over anyone else's?

 

[Marianne]

Why can't we do that? Because we aren't the UK. That issue was settled 150 years ago.

Settled at the point of a gun. THINK

Yes,and who fired the first shot genius. The South started it and the North finished it. Sorry for ya.

Hitler claimed that Poland fired the first shot. That doesn't determine who is at fault.

I'm pretty sure it's well documented as they know who fired the first shot and yes it does matter. Up until that point they could have kept talking and trying to negotiate,instead they chose succession and violence. What cracks me up is they call it the "war of Northern aggression" yet they were the ones who fired the first shot.

Regardless they lost the war. Like the Native Americans, they need to get over it and move on because you can't go back to the way it was. There will never again be an Antebellum society with plantations and slaves,It's just not going to happen. If you don't like things the way they are now, fix it. We've had Southern Presidents so their interests should be represented well enough. Each state gets to basically be what they want as has been proved by CA,CT,WA, and CO with the legalization of Medical Marijuana and/or recreational marijuana despite the fact that it's still illegal federally. The South still has her lands and her people same as any other state, same as pre war. They need to get over the butt hurt, stop being whiney bitches and move on.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Why can't we do that? Because we aren't the UK. That issue was settled 150 years ago.

Actually the op is foolish the Supreme Court ruled that Congress can in fact decide to allow States to leave if it chooses to.

 

[Marianne]

Why can't we do that? Because we aren't the UK. That issue was settled 150 years ago.

Actually the op is foolish the Supreme Court ruled that Congress can in fact decide to allow States to leave if it chooses to.

Well there you go.

 

[Old Rocks]

America tried it 150 years ago and super-rich corporate lawyer abraham lincoln said. "Screw the will of the public. If states secede there will be less money for me and my cronies to fleece out of the citizenry. Better to have a war that kills 600,000 people."

That was settled at Appomatox Court House.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

America tried it 150 years ago and super-rich corporate lawyer abraham lincoln said. "Screw the will of the public. If states secede there will be less money for me and my cronies to fleece out of the citizenry. Better to have a war that kills 600,000 people."

That was settled at Appomatox Court House.

And then in 1869 the Supreme Court ruled against Texas and stated that a State may leave the Union with the permission of the Congress.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

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Those who wish to secede are just ignorant.

Maybe, but they still have the right. What kind of club is it that will not let members leave? THINK

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Actually the op is foolish the Supreme Court ruled that Congress can in fact decide to allow States to leave if it chooses to.

1. Where does the supreme court get the authority to decide that issue.?

2. Why should a member only be allowed to leave a club if the club says it's ok.?

think

 

[bripat9643]

America tried it 150 years ago and super-rich corporate lawyer abraham lincoln said. "Screw the will of the public. If states secede there will be less money for me and my cronies to fleece out of the citizenry. Better to have a war that kills 600,000 people."

That was settled at Appomatox Court House.

And then in 1869 the Supreme Court ruled against Texas and stated that a State may leave the Union with the permission of the Congress.

You mean Lincoln's hand picked stooges determined that. Why should a state need Congress's permission? Does it say that in the Constitution?

 

[bripat9643]

America tried it 150 years ago and super-rich corporate lawyer abraham lincoln said. "Screw the will of the public. If states secede there will be less money for me and my cronies to fleece out of the citizenry. Better to have a war that kills 600,000 people."

That was settled at Appomatox Court House.

The liberal proudly announces that he approves of settling issues by mass slaughter.