PoliticalChic
Diamond Member
- Thread starter
- #81
"My my, you have a dark view of science."
My, my....what a stupid comment.
“Religion,” he affirmed, “is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion
... etc ...
You, it seems, agree with Weinberg.
My, my what a stupid retort.
I have said absolutely nothing about religion being an insult to human dignity.
The second sentence is almost a tautology. Except for the fact that anyone can do both evil and good at different times.
I disagree with Weinburg's third sentence.
You didn't give a response to my post, but only gave an anecdotal digression.
What do you suggest we do? These are some sarcastic suggestions. I hope you can come up with better ones:
Ban science? Make scientists believe in a religion? Ban guns and ban scientists from working on war materials. Dismantle our military?
No, you are not correct. The Nazi party had full support from the Church. The Nazi members and Nazi leaders were Christians. Time to get off your moral high horse because religion is the last place to pretend it has moral superiority over anyone.The Nazi doctors were Christians.Science is about this reality inside this space. Religion is about next reality inside the next space. Science is lame enough not being able to get into the next space to find out the next reality (even in the case that it exists).
... without the morality prescribed by religion, whoever is in charge of the government makes up their 'morality.'
1. "Is there a moral difference between the Nazi doctor (the white coat, the black boots, the pellets of Zyklon B) and the blood-bespattered interrogator in the penalty camp of Orotukan? The Nazi doctors participated not only in experiments and ‘selections'. They supervised all stages of the killing process. Indeed, the Nazi vision was in essence a biomedical vision."
Martin Amis, "Koba The Dread"
2. " Pointing to the chimneys in the distance, [Dr Ella Lingens-Reiner] asked a Nazi doctor, Fritz Klein, ‘How can you reconcile that with your oath as a doctor?' His answer was, ‘Of course I am a doctor and I want to preserve life. And out of respect for human life, I would remove a gangrenous appendix from a diseased body. The Jew is the gangrenous appendix in the body of mankind.'"
"The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocide," byRobert Jay Lifton
Science merely tells us what we can do....
....but not what we should do.
No, they were Nazis......totalitarians, as are socialists, communists, Liberals, Progressives, and Fascists.
All serve the god of 'big unrestricted government.'
As do you.....am I correct?
The German Churches and the Nazi StateThe population of Germany in 1933 was around 60 million. Almost all Germans were Christian, belonging either to the Roman Catholic (ca. 20 million members) or the Protestant (ca. 40 million members) churches. The Jewish community in Germany in 1933 was less than 1% of the total population of the country.
How did Christians and their churches in Germany respond to the Nazi regime and its laws, particularly to the persecution of the Jews? The racialized anti-Jewish Nazi ideology converged with antisemitism that was historically widespread throughout Europe at the time and had deep roots in Christian history. For all too many Christians, traditional interpretations of religious scriptures seemed to support these prejudices.
First and foremost.....get this straight: I'm never wrong.
1. "Religion played a role in Nazi Germany but as with so many other aspects of life in the state, religion became the ‘property’ of the government with the introduction of the Reich Church. While Hitler had been brought up as a Roman Catholic, he rejected Christian beliefs as an adult. He wrote in ‘Mein Kampf’ that “antiquity was better than modern times because it did not know Christianity and syphilis.” Hitler also forwarded other reasons in ‘Mein Kampf’ as to why Christianity should be rejected."
Religion and Nazi Germany - History Learning Site
2. Why did you avoid this query?
Nazis......totalitarians, as are socialists, communists, Liberals, Progressives, and Fascists.
All serve the god of 'big unrestricted government.'
As do you.....am I correct?
"No, you are not correct."
Are you a member of one of those six religions?
Ashamed of your religion?