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Do you agree it's ridiculous to be teaching kids that the earth is only 10,000 years old? When we know for sure there are writings older than that -- hell, even other RELIGIONS older than that! Never mind evolution, let's just go here!
I may get flamed for this response but this post sounds like the religious extremists when their ideas are challenged. There is NOTHING wrong with teaching weakness in the evolution theory, especially from a scientific viewpoint. That teaches children to keep their eyes open, might challenge and interest some into proving the theory either completely true or completely bogus. After all it is still the THEORY of evolution right?
Children shouldn't be brainwashed into one way of thinking but rather given the honest facts and taught how to think for themselves. It is just like teaching the children the Bible in school. You are telling them again and again that this is fact and this is what you are supposed to believe when, to many, there are inconsitancies and holes throughout the text.
I think Texas is taking a step in the right direction towards more properly educating our children.
Hmmm....
I'm not so sure. The vast majority of scientists accept that ToE is the most likely explanation. Those that don't (I'm hypothesizing) probably either have a religious ax to grind or have only certain reservations that prevent them from agreeing with the majority.
So long as evolution is taught only as theory, I'm not sure what the benefit is of teaching children what the flaws in the theory are, when even scientists as a whole do not agree on those flaws. Surely it's sufficient to teach them that as a theory there are certain things that remain unclear or unexplained and that the issue needs to be continuously investigated in the pursuit of the truth. Anything more than that I see as college material.
I think that while Texas may not be taking a step in the wrong direction, it's an unnecessary step for them to take.
I may get flamed for this response but this post sounds like the religious extremists when their ideas are challenged. There is NOTHING wrong with teaching weakness in the evolution theory, especially from a scientific viewpoint. That teaches children to keep their eyes open, might challenge and interest some into proving the theory either completely true or completely bogus. After all it is still the THEORY of evolution right?
Children shouldn't be brainwashed into one way of thinking but rather given the honest facts and taught how to think for themselves. It is just like teaching the children the Bible in school. You are telling them again and again that this is fact and this is what you are supposed to believe when, to many, there are inconsitancies and holes throughout the text.
I think Texas is taking a step in the right direction towards more properly educating our children.
Hmmm....
I'm not so sure. The vast majority of scientists accept that ToE is the most likely explanation. Those that don't (I'm hypothesizing) probably either have a religious ax to grind or have only certain reservations that prevent them from agreeing with the majority.
So long as evolution is taught only as theory, I'm not sure what the benefit is of teaching children what the flaws in the theory are, when even scientists as a whole do not agree on those flaws. Surely it's sufficient to teach them that as a theory there are certain things that remain unclear or unexplained and that the issue needs to be continuously investigated in the pursuit of the truth. Anything more than that I see as college material.
I think that while Texas may not be taking a step in the wrong direction, it's an unnecessary step for them to take.
Do you agree it's ridiculous to be teaching kids that the earth is only 10,000 years old? When we know for sure there are writings older than that -- hell, even other RELIGIONS older than that! Never mind evolution, let's just go here!
This is the kind of fundy silliness, extremist idiotic beliefs, that make the point of whether evolution only should be taught totally moot.
I may get flamed for this response but this post sounds like the religious extremists when their ideas are challenged. There is NOTHING wrong with teaching weakness in the evolution theory, especially from a scientific viewpoint. That teaches children to keep their eyes open, might challenge and interest some into proving the theory either completely true or completely bogus. After all it is still the THEORY of evolution right?
Children shouldn't be brainwashed into one way of thinking but rather given the honest facts and taught how to think for themselves. It is just like teaching the children the Bible in school. You are telling them again and again that this is fact and this is what you are supposed to believe when, to many, there are inconsitancies and holes throughout the text.
I think Texas is taking a step in the right direction towards more properly educating our children.
I cant wait to see them teach kids that hurricanes are in fact the misdeeds of a fake Muslim god striking them for being good Christians.The Texas Board of Education will vote this week on a new science curriculum designed to challenge the guiding principle of evolution, a step that could influence what is taught in biology classes across the nation.
The proposed curriculum change would prompt teachers to raise doubts that all life on Earth is descended from common ancestry. Texas is such a huge textbook market that many publishers write to the state's standards, then market those books nationwide.
"This is the most specific assault I've seen against evolution and modern science," said Steven Newton, a project director at the National Center for Science Education, which promotes teaching of evolution.
Texas school board chairman Don McLeroy also sees the curriculum as a landmark -- but a positive one.
Dr. McLeroy believes that God created the earth less than 10,000 years ago. If the new curriculum passes, he says he will insist that high-school biology textbooks point out specific aspects of the fossil record that, in his view, undermine the theory that all life on Earth is descended from primitive scraps of genetic material that first emerged in the primordial muck about 3.9 billion years ago.
He also wants the texts to make the case that individual cells are far too complex to have evolved by chance mutation and natural selection, an argument popular with those who believe an intelligent designer created the universe.
The textbooks will "have to say that there's a problem with evolution -- because there is," said Dr. McLeroy, a dentist. "We need to be honest with the kids."
The vast majority of scientists accept evolution as the best explanation for the diversity of life on earth.
Yes, they say, there are unanswered questions -- transitional fossils yet to be unearthed, biological processes still to be discovered. There is lively scientific debate about some aspects of evolution's winding, four-billion-year path. But when critics talk about exposing students to the "weaknesses" or "insufficiencies" in evolutionary theory, many mainstream scientists cringe.
The fossil record clearly supports evolution, they say, and students shouldn't be exposed to creationist critiques in the name of "critical thinking."
"We will be teaching nonsense in the science classroom," said David Hillis, a biology professor at the University of Texas at Austin. ...
Texas School Board Set to Vote on Challenge to Evolution - WSJ.com
Why would you think it was the "rulers" that created God? Most religions are started by someone that is convinced of the truth of his or her vision and has the charisma to convince others of that "truth."I have one question. If man created God in his own image, then man also wrote the Ten Commandments. Who were these men who created this God? Were they the peasants or the rulers? I would assume it had to be those who had some form of power. They must have been educated, and they surely served their rulers, unless of course it was the rulers themselves.
So my question is this. Why did they give all the working stiffs a day off? Did they really believe everyone deserved one vacation day per week?
Shitty people took a good spiritual concept and used it to their advantage-----doesn't mean that the spiritual concept of Christianlty isn't sound. This wacko doesnt' speak for the entire Christian world, btw.
I may get flamed for this response but this post sounds like the religious extremists when their ideas are challenged. There is NOTHING wrong with teaching weakness in the evolution theory, especially from a scientific viewpoint. That teaches children to keep their eyes open, might challenge and interest some into proving the theory either completely true or completely bogus. After all it is still the THEORY of evolution right?
I don't know the exact text they seem to want to introduce, but the quote from the fundie GOOB heading up the Texas School Board is egregious. Clearly it would be okay with HIM if public school kids graduating from Texas schools actually thought the earth was only 10,000 years old. He belongs elsewhere, not in a position of power with the state school board, for crying out loud.The way I read it, I don't think they were proposing to teach kids that the earth is only 10,000 years old. Were they? If they were, I would agree that it would be ridiculous.
Yes, ALWAYS question science. Kids should be taught to do so intellectually, dispassionately, not emotionally. And religion is nothing but emotion-based. But DON'T question it with idiotic fundie SHIT like "the earth is only 10,000 years old" I mean come the fuck on, we can debate Darwin's theories but we cannot debate toweringly titanic, galactically STUPID shit like that, which has NO basis in science whatsoever.I don't think there's any harm in telling children to continually question theories. I think there would be harm if the only objective in doing so was a desire to advance adherence to certain religious convictions.
Why would you think it was the "rulers" that created God? Most religions are started by someone that is convinced of the truth of his or her vision and has the charisma to convince others of that "truth."I have one question. If man created God in his own image, then man also wrote the Ten Commandments. Who were these men who created this God? Were they the peasants or the rulers? I would assume it had to be those who had some form of power. They must have been educated, and they surely served their rulers, unless of course it was the rulers themselves.
So my question is this. Why did they give all the working stiffs a day off? Did they really believe everyone deserved one vacation day per week?
The Texas Board of Education will vote this week on a new science curriculum designed to challenge the guiding principle of evolution, a step that could influence what is taught in biology classes across the nation.
The proposed curriculum change would prompt teachers to raise doubts that all life on Earth is descended from common ancestry. Texas is such a huge textbook market that many publishers write to the state's standards, then market those books nationwide.
"This is the most specific assault I've seen against evolution and modern science," said Steven Newton, a project director at the National Center for Science Education, which promotes teaching of evolution.
Texas school board chairman Don McLeroy also sees the curriculum as a landmark -- but a positive one.
Dr. McLeroy believes that God created the earth less than 10,000 years ago. If the new curriculum passes, he says he will insist that high-school biology textbooks point out specific aspects of the fossil record that, in his view, undermine the theory that all life on Earth is descended from primitive scraps of genetic material that first emerged in the primordial muck about 3.9 billion years ago.
He also wants the texts to make the case that individual cells are far too complex to have evolved by chance mutation and natural selection, an argument popular with those who believe an intelligent designer created the universe.
The textbooks will "have to say that there's a problem with evolution -- because there is," said Dr. McLeroy, a dentist. "We need to be honest with the kids."
The vast majority of scientists accept evolution as the best explanation for the diversity of life on earth.
Yes, they say, there are unanswered questions -- transitional fossils yet to be unearthed, biological processes still to be discovered. There is lively scientific debate about some aspects of evolution's winding, four-billion-year path. But when critics talk about exposing students to the "weaknesses" or "insufficiencies" in evolutionary theory, many mainstream scientists cringe.
The fossil record clearly supports evolution, they say, and students shouldn't be exposed to creationist critiques in the name of "critical thinking."
"We will be teaching nonsense in the science classroom," said David Hillis, a biology professor at the University of Texas at Austin. ...
Texas School Board Set to Vote on Challenge to Evolution - WSJ.com
Texas school board chairman Don McLeroy also sees the curriculum as a landmark -- but a positive one.
Dr. McLeroy believes that God created the earth less than 10,000 years ago.
Texas school board chairman Don McLeroy also sees the curriculum as a landmark -- but a positive one.
Dr. McLeroy believes that God created the earth less than 10,000 years ago.
these fucks won't be happy until they turn us into Idiot Nation
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Why shouldn't it be pointed out that the theory of evolution is in fact a theory and not fact?
Seems like THAT would be telling the TRUTH.
He also wants the texts to make the case that individual cells are far too complex to have evolved by chance mutation and natural selection, an argument popular with those who believe an intelligent designer created the universe.
Texas school board chairman Don McLeroy also sees the curriculum as a landmark -- but a positive one.
Dr. McLeroy believes that God created the earth less than 10,000 years ago.
these fucks won't be happy until they turn us into Idiot Nation
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"These fucks" would be ANYONE trying to push their beliefs on others.
Texas school board chairman Don McLeroy also sees the curriculum as a landmark -- but a positive one.
Dr. McLeroy believes that God created the earth less than 10,000 years ago.
these fucks won't be happy until they turn us into Idiot Nation
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"These fucks" would be ANYONE trying to push their beliefs on others.
uhh.....dude....."beliefs" don't have anything to do with science. A proper science education teaches science. Beliefs can be taught in church.
The taliban teach "beliefs" in madrassas. We teach science in science class.
uhh.....dude....."beliefs" don't have anything to do with science. A proper science education teaches science. Beliefs can be taught in church.
The taliban teach "beliefs" in madrassas. We teach science in science class.
You should go back about 50 years and see what scientists "believed".
uhh.....dude....."beliefs" don't have anything to do with science. A proper science education teaches science. Beliefs can be taught in church.
The taliban teach "beliefs" in madrassas. We teach science in science class.
You should go back about 50 years and see what scientists "believed".
so your contention is that we should teach children that the earth is ten thousand years old in science class.
Gotcha.
uhh.....dude....."beliefs" don't have anything to do with science. A proper science education teaches science. Beliefs can be taught in church.
The taliban teach "beliefs" in madrassas. We teach science in science class.
You should go back about 50 years and see what scientists "believed".
You should go back about 50 years and see what scientists "believed".
so your contention is that we should teach children that the earth is ten thousand years old in science class.
Gotcha.
Worst strawman ever award ?
