Schiavo's Other Woman

[OCA]

[alot of people will be reminded about how the republican federal government interceded in a personal family affair. the cry of smaller government will never be uttered again with any type of credibility.[/QUOTE]

And that in a nutshell is the saddest thing that happened. We sold our principles at the drop of a dime.

 

[Shattered]

No but do you possess solid court accepting proof that he's a piece of shit sorry sonofabitch as you contend?

All I can say to that, is actions speak louder than words.

It's kind of depressing to find people that are pro-life opting for death.

 

[sitarro]

You have GOT to be kidding me!!! He's an abusive piece of shit that deserves to be shot upon sight. What kind of friggen heartless MORON doesn't allow their wife's family to be at her side when she's dying? It was inevitable - the tube was not going back in. The sorry son of a bitch WON. What did he have left to gain by disallowing them to be by her side in her final moments?

See you guys , an intelligent woman like shattered here can just look at that scum and see him for what he is . This type of guy would make me ashamed to be a man except that I am nothing like this piece of shit. The first bruise appearing on my sister's arm would have been the end of this dickhead . I have no patience for a woman abuser . The way he has treated her real family is all the proof I need to kick the jerk in that empty space between his legs.
Shattered , you are looking as cute as always today.

 

[OCA]

See you guys , an intelligent woman like shattered here can just look at that scum and see him for what he is . This type of guy would make me ashamed to be a man except that I am nothing like this piece of shit. The first bruise appearing on my sister's arm would have been the end of this dickhead . I have no patience for a woman abuser . The way he has treated her real family is all the proof I need to kick the jerk in that empty space between his legs.
Shattered , you are looking as cute as always today.

Sitarro........nah fuck it.....lets talk about the Masters.

 

[Shattered]

C'mon, OCA.. You can't possibly have read everything on this case, and actually think this guy is being wrongfully crucified.. Hell, just his actions over the last 2 weeks are enough to earn him a place in whatever his version of hell may happen to be.

Maybe the courts should have stayed out of it - I'm not arguing that. But the guy is a complete and utter piece of shit, and I *do* believe the judge is being paid off.

 

[SmarterThanYou]

All I can say to that, is actions speak louder than words.

It's kind of depressing to find people that are pro-life opting for death.

and its kind of depressing for me to know that so many so called conservatives didn't have this actions louder than words credo until it all went against something they didn't like.

 

[SmarterThanYou]

C'mon, OCA.. You can't possibly have read everything on this case, and actually think this guy is being wrongfully crucified.. Hell, just his actions over the last 2 weeks are enough to earn him a place in whatever his version of hell may happen to be.

Maybe the courts should have stayed out of it - I'm not arguing that. But the guy is a complete and utter piece of shit, and I *do* believe the judge is being paid off.

i guess the 11th circuit and USSC are getting their cut as well, eh?

 

[Shattered]

and its kind of depressing for me to know that so many so called conservatives didn't have this actions louder than words credo until it all went against something they didn't like.

When it comes to my life, my actions do speak louder than words - paint someone else with that brush, please.

 

[freeandfun1]

whos business is that really? its not mine, and it damn sure isn't yours.

Then why are you commenting on anything? If you believe that none of this is our business, then follow your own advice and don't discuss it. I thought you libs love to say that open discussion is what makes this country so grand? You guys love to demonize Bush, what is wrong with us demonizing a man that killed his wife? If anybody deserves demonization, it is him. Thank you very much!

 

[sitarro]

Because it's easier to allege misconduct than it is to come to grips with "quality of life" issues.

"Quality of Life"issues? If she was the brain dead corpse that you guys are alleging , she had no idea about the quality of her life .
What about her right to not have to be married to an adultress asswipe? The idea that any of you can actually call him her husband is a joke , he hasn't been her husband from the time she lost her ability to divorce the cheating piece of shit . If he wanted to live with another woman and have children with her , he owed it to his "wife'' and the doormat he is now with to get a divorce. I have never been married but I can tell you I would never cheat on my wife , I've never cheated on any of my girlfriends , you either get a divorce or break up if you have an overwhelming desire to act like an animal in heat.

 

[MissileMan]

"Quality of Life"issues? If she was the brain dead corpse that you guys are alleging , she had no idea about the quality of her life .

So your argument is that she had no right to quality of life because she wasn't aware that she was alive? Does that really make sense to you?

 

[sitarro]

Sitarro........nah fuck it.....lets talk about the Masters.

I only know one thing about the Masters this year , the last nine holes on Sunday will be fun to watch .This is my brother and I at the 86 Masters , I'm the one shlepping the clubs .

 

[SmarterThanYou]

Then why are you commenting on anything? If you believe that none of this is our business, then follow your own advice and don't discuss it.

and leave it up to you metal beanie wearing kooks to dictate what goes on around here? not a chance.

I thought you libs love to say that open discussion is what makes this country so grand? You guys love to demonize Bush, what is wrong with us demonizing a man that killed his wife? If anybody deserves demonization, it is him. Thank you very much!

if it were completley deserved, i'd have no problem with it but what you're doing is completely off the wall. something you've accused libs of time and time again. welcome to the party, pal.

 

[Shattered]

and leave it up to you metal beanie wearing kooks to dictate what goes on around here? not a chance.


if it were completley deserved, i'd have no problem with it but what you're doing is completely off the wall. something you've accused libs of time and time again. welcome to the party, pal.

You can not possibly be stupid enough to believe this dumbfuck is innocent of all charges... You can't be. So, I'm just going to assume illiteracy wherein you want to read everything; you just can't.

 

[sitarro]

I'll let my favorite writer , one of the finest minds on the planet , have her say .

http://www.anncoulter.com/March 31, 2005, 11:48 AM


THE EMPEROR'S NEW ROBES
March 30, 2005


On the bright side, after two weeks of TV coverage of the Terri Schiavo case, I think we have almost all liberals in America on record saying we can pull the plug on them. Of course, if my only means of entertainment were Air America radio, Barbra Streisand albums and reruns of "The West Wing," I too would be asking: "What kind of quality of life is this?"

There are a few glaring exceptions. On the anti-killing side, to one extent or another, are: former Clinton lawyer Lanny Davis, former Gore lawyer David Boies, former O.J. lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman, McGovern and Carter strategist Pat Caddell, liberal blogger Mickey Kaus, Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader and Rainbow Coalition leader Jesse Jackson, as well as several of my friends who are pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage but not Pro-Adulterous Husbands Who, After Taking Up With Another Woman, Suddenly Recall Their Wives' Clearly Stated Wish to Die.

Opinions about the Schiavo case seem to break down less on morals than on basic knowledge of the facts of the case.

There are a lot of telling facts, but two big ones are:

— The only family member lobbying for Terri's death is her husband, who is affianced to a woman he's been living with for several years and with whom he already has two children. (Today's brain twister: Would you rather be O.J.'s girlfriend or Michael Schiavo's fiancee?)

— Terri's husband has refused to allow her to be given either an MRI or a PET scan, which are also known as: "The tests that could determine whether Terri is even in a permanent vegetative state." (I believe his exact words were, "PET scan? MRI? What do I look like, a guy who just won a $1 million malpractice settlement?")

On the basis of these facts, Pinellas County Judge George Greer found that it was Terri's wish to be starved to death. She requires no life support; all she needs is food and water. If being (a) on a liquid diet, and (b) unresponsive to one's estranged husband are now considered grounds for a woman's execution, wait until this news hits Beverly Hills!

Despite the media's idiotic claims that scores of courts have made painstaking findings of fact over 15 years that Terri is in a permanent vegetative state and would have wanted to die, only one judge made such a finding. Other courts have not made any factual findings whatsoever. They simply refused to overturn Greer's findings of fact as an abuse of discretion.

Greer made his finding based on the testimony of Terri's husband that Terri said she wouldn't want to live like this — a rather important fact the husband only remembered many years after Terri was first injured, but one year after he won a million-dollar malpractice award and began living with another woman. (Maybe when Terri said, "I wouldn't want to live like that" she was referring to being married to Michael Schiavo.)

Supporting the idea that positions on the Schiavo case are correlated with IQ, on the pro-killing side is Rep. Chris Shays, R-Conn., who denounced the legislation granting federal courts jurisdiction over Terri's case, saying the Republican Party "has become a party of theocracy." Yes, you remembered correctly: The House passed the bill overwhelmingly in a 203-58 vote, and the Senate passed it in a voice vote also with overwhelming support. (Surely, if anyone would defend the practice of being on a liquid diet, you'd think Ted Kennedy would.)

Also on the pro-killing side are conservatives still pissed off about the Civil Rights Act of 1964 who are desperately hoping to be elected "most consistent constitutionalist" by their local Federalist Society chapters.

You can't grow peanuts on your own land or install a toilet capable of disposing two tissues in one flush because of federal government intervention. But Congress demands a review of the process that goes into a governmental determination to kill an innocent American woman — and that goes too far!

It's not a radical extension of current constitutional doctrines — even the legitimate ones! — for the federal government to assert a constitutional right to life that cannot be denied without due process of law under the Fifth and 14th Amendments. Congress didn't ask for much, just the same due process John Wayne Gacy got.

But people even stupider than lawyers have picked up on the vague rumblings from "most consistent constitutionalist" aspirants and begun to claim that Congress' action is an affront to "limited government."

Of course, the most limited of all possible governments is a king. We don't have that sort of "limited government." What we have is divided government: three branches of government at the federal level and 50 states with their own versions of checks and balances.

Or at least that was the government designed for us by men smarter than we are. We haven't had that sort of government for decades.

Alexander Hamilton's famous last words in "The Federalist" described the judiciary as the "least dangerous branch," because it had neither force nor will. Now the judiciary is the most dangerous branch. It doesn't need force because it has smoke and mirrors and a lot of people defending the moronic scribblings of any judge as the perfect efflorescence of "the rule of law."

This week, an indisputably innocent woman will be killed by the government for one reason: Judge Greer of Pinellas County, Fla., ordered it.

Polls claim that a majority of Americans objected to action by the U.S. Congress in the Schiavo case as "government intrusion" into a "private family matter" — as if Judge Greer is not also the government. So twisted is our view of the judiciary that a judicial decree is treated like a naturally occurring phenomenon, like a rainbow or an act of God.

Our infallible, divine ruler is a county judge in Florida named George Greer, who has more authority in America than the U.S. Congress, the president and the governor. No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church!

It's a good system if you like monarchy and legally sanctioned murder. But spare me the paeans to "strict constructionism" and "limited government."

 

[Shattered]

I'll let my favorite writer , one of the finest minds on the planet , have her say .

http://www.anncoulter.com/March 31, 2005, 11:48 AM


THE EMPEROR'S NEW ROBES
March 30, 2005


On the bright side, after two weeks of TV coverage of the Terri Schiavo case, I think we have almost all liberals in America on record saying we can pull the plug on them. Of course, if my only means of entertainment were Air America radio, Barbra Streisand albums and reruns of "The West Wing," I too would be asking: "What kind of quality of life is this?"

There are a few glaring exceptions. On the anti-killing side, to one extent or another, are: former Clinton lawyer Lanny Davis, former Gore lawyer David Boies, former O.J. lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman, McGovern and Carter strategist Pat Caddell, liberal blogger Mickey Kaus, Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader and Rainbow Coalition leader Jesse Jackson, as well as several of my friends who are pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage but not Pro-Adulterous Husbands Who, After Taking Up With Another Woman, Suddenly Recall Their Wives' Clearly Stated Wish to Die.

Opinions about the Schiavo case seem to break down less on morals than on basic knowledge of the facts of the case.

There are a lot of telling facts, but two big ones are:

— The only family member lobbying for Terri's death is her husband, who is affianced to a woman he's been living with for several years and with whom he already has two children. (Today's brain twister: Would you rather be O.J.'s girlfriend or Michael Schiavo's fiancee?)

— Terri's husband has refused to allow her to be given either an MRI or a PET scan, which are also known as: "The tests that could determine whether Terri is even in a permanent vegetative state." (I believe his exact words were, "PET scan? MRI? What do I look like, a guy who just won a $1 million malpractice settlement?")

On the basis of these facts, Pinellas County Judge George Greer found that it was Terri's wish to be starved to death. She requires no life support; all she needs is food and water. If being (a) on a liquid diet, and (b) unresponsive to one's estranged husband are now considered grounds for a woman's execution, wait until this news hits Beverly Hills!

Despite the media's idiotic claims that scores of courts have made painstaking findings of fact over 15 years that Terri is in a permanent vegetative state and would have wanted to die, only one judge made such a finding. Other courts have not made any factual findings whatsoever. They simply refused to overturn Greer's findings of fact as an abuse of discretion.

Greer made his finding based on the testimony of Terri's husband that Terri said she wouldn't want to live like this — a rather important fact the husband only remembered many years after Terri was first injured, but one year after he won a million-dollar malpractice award and began living with another woman. (Maybe when Terri said, "I wouldn't want to live like that" she was referring to being married to Michael Schiavo.)

Supporting the idea that positions on the Schiavo case are correlated with IQ, on the pro-killing side is Rep. Chris Shays, R-Conn., who denounced the legislation granting federal courts jurisdiction over Terri's case, saying the Republican Party "has become a party of theocracy." Yes, you remembered correctly: The House passed the bill overwhelmingly in a 203-58 vote, and the Senate passed it in a voice vote also with overwhelming support. (Surely, if anyone would defend the practice of being on a liquid diet, you'd think Ted Kennedy would.)

Also on the pro-killing side are conservatives still pissed off about the Civil Rights Act of 1964 who are desperately hoping to be elected "most consistent constitutionalist" by their local Federalist Society chapters.

You can't grow peanuts on your own land or install a toilet capable of disposing two tissues in one flush because of federal government intervention. But Congress demands a review of the process that goes into a governmental determination to kill an innocent American woman — and that goes too far!

It's not a radical extension of current constitutional doctrines — even the legitimate ones! — for the federal government to assert a constitutional right to life that cannot be denied without due process of law under the Fifth and 14th Amendments. Congress didn't ask for much, just the same due process John Wayne Gacy got.

But people even stupider than lawyers have picked up on the vague rumblings from "most consistent constitutionalist" aspirants and begun to claim that Congress' action is an affront to "limited government."

Of course, the most limited of all possible governments is a king. We don't have that sort of "limited government." What we have is divided government: three branches of government at the federal level and 50 states with their own versions of checks and balances.

Or at least that was the government designed for us by men smarter than we are. We haven't had that sort of government for decades.

Alexander Hamilton's famous last words in "The Federalist" described the judiciary as the "least dangerous branch," because it had neither force nor will. Now the judiciary is the most dangerous branch. It doesn't need force because it has smoke and mirrors and a lot of people defending the moronic scribblings of any judge as the perfect efflorescence of "the rule of law."

This week, an indisputably innocent woman will be killed by the government for one reason: Judge Greer of Pinellas County, Fla., ordered it.

Polls claim that a majority of Americans objected to action by the U.S. Congress in the Schiavo case as "government intrusion" into a "private family matter" — as if Judge Greer is not also the government. So twisted is our view of the judiciary that a judicial decree is treated like a naturally occurring phenomenon, like a rainbow or an act of God.

Our infallible, divine ruler is a county judge in Florida named George Greer, who has more authority in America than the U.S. Congress, the president and the governor. No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church!

It's a good system if you like monarchy and legally sanctioned murder. But spare me the paeans to "strict constructionism" and "limited government."

:clap1: :clap1:

 

[SmarterThanYou]

You can not possibly be stupid enough to believe this dumbfuck is innocent of all charges... You can't be. So, I'm just going to assume illiteracy wherein you want to read everything; you just can't.

you have yet to prove anything other than you like spouting conspiracy theory crap. NOTHING that has been said about michael schiavo has been proven true OTHER THAN he has a new family. so until you can prove anything else thats been alleged, it is simply alleged bullshit.

 

[SmarterThanYou]

I'll let my favorite writer , one of the finest minds on the planet , have her say .

http://www.anncoulter.com/March 31, 2005, 11:48 AM

you've got to be kidding me. The one woman who is the epitome of lunacy in all things considered conservative, the one who claimed she was the victim of a terrorist attack by having cream pies thrown at her.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

 

[Shattered]

you have yet to prove anything other than you like spouting conspiracy theory crap. NOTHING that has been said about michael schiavo has been proven true OTHER THAN he has a new family. so until you can prove anything else thats been alleged, it is simply alleged bullshit.

"A new family"? That's what you're calling it?

You truely disgust me. (And that's pretty hard to do...)

 

[SmarterThanYou]

"A new family"? That's what you're calling it?

You truely disgust me. (And that's pretty hard to do...)

if something that simple is that disgusting to you, i'd really hate to see how you react to something evil and vile. open your eyes and realize that something like that happens hundreds of times a week to people all over this country. its not as rare as you'd like to think.