Say, Looks Like That Supply-Side Stuff Works After All

Is it any wonder real people aren't having it when MSM colludes with the FEDs to gaslight us into believing the economy isn't on a downhill slide & is only getting worse because of "Bidenomics"?

Real wages continue to decline,
inflation is much higher than reported,
savings rates have crashed
consumer debt is increasing while consumer confidence is plummeting
the residential real estate market is in recession & the commercial RE market is on the verge of collapse,
the jobs increases aren't reflected in the Household survey of real people & most small gains in employment are 2nd jobs
GDP is shrinking (growing less than inflation & only from govt spending)
fuel prices are spiking again


Leftist economics is & always will be a major drag on economies.

I say let it all crash. It's probably the only way the idiots that support the left will ever learn a lesson

Say, Looks Like That Supply-Side Stuff Works After All

6 Jul 2023

Bidenomonics has been, and will continue to be, a disaster. This is what happens when lawmakers manipulate economies. No one should ever expect a different outcome when politicians enact ideas that they believe are so brilliant that they will overcome the laws of economics. The way out of this mess is to make a policy U-turn to both unleash the economy and expand precious liberty.
President Joe Biden last week bragged that his economic policies ā€” straight from the Democrats blueprint that says ā€œborrow, tax, spend, regulate, then do it all againā€ ā€” are working. But as weā€™ve noted, Bidenomics has been a wreck, a flop that is taking us into a recession.
Not only did Biden openly boast as our sclerosis grows worse, he also, as Democrats always do, took a jab at ā€œtrickle-down economics,ā€ claiming it has ā€œfailed the middle class ā€¦ failed America ā€¦ blew up the deficitā€ and ā€œincreased inequity.ā€
He probably would have blamed the Canadian wildfires on ā€œtrickle-down economicsā€ had he thought about it. But thereā€™s not much thinking going on in his head ā€” and in fact there never has been, with his ungovernable mouth leading the way throughout his career as an elected grifter.
~Snip~
We donā€™t see Biden or any other Democrat ever coming around to supply-side economic policies, the correct terminology for what they sneeringly call ā€œtrickle-down economics,ā€ which asserts that lower taxes and less regulatory meddling fuel economic growth. Yet they are exactly what our economy ā€” any economy ā€“ needs, now and forever.
In our post-lockdown world, the states that have the strongest economic recoveries are the red ones on the map. And what do they have in common? Low taxes and light regulation.
We can see this vividly in the rankings of states that have had the greatest increases in hiring over the last year. Of the top 10, only two are blue, or Democratic, states.
~Snip~
Democrats are stubborn animals who will continue to take two-by-fours upside their heads and swear that the blows donā€™t hurt and thereā€™s no damage done. So we canā€™t under any circumstances foresee them ever abandoning their policy preferences, from busted Obamanomics to neo-Marxist Sandynomics to baffled-by-his-own-BS Bidenomics, that cause so much harm. Which is why we need a real red wave in 2024 rather than another ebbing tide like the one we had last year.


Commentary:
Before one declares that Bidenomics is ``Not Working``, one needs to discern the goals of Bidenomics. One might find that Bidenomics is, indeed, Working as designed to destroy te economy and America.
The big takeaway from this article is that lower taxes and light regulation actually increases tax revenues. This is because:
1) productive economic effort is rewarded, and​
2) there is less incentive to avoid taxes (e.g., people fleeing CA, NY, and IL).​
At the Federal level, look what the Reagan Tax Cuts did for the disastrous Carter and Obama economy; one of the longest sustained growth periods of US economic growth ever.
Did the Democrats learn the lesson? No! because to them higher taxes is the means to attaining more power.
While it is a current trend to use the term ā€˜Bidenomicsā€™ when referring to the abject failure of so many infrastructure sub-systems and supply chain shortages including baby formula, we should probably be calling it ā€˜Obamanomicsā€™.
Remember ā€œWe are going to change your world as you know it.ā€ No one thought to ask what his objective actually was..

The post-WW2 period also referred to as the "Golden Age of Capitalism," was indeed marked by high top marginal tax rates for the rich, strong labor unions, and a relatively low wage gap between CEOs and average workers.

  1. High top marginal tax rates: According to data from the Tax Foundation, the top marginal tax rate in the United States was indeed over 90% for much of the 1950s and remained above 70% until the 1980s (Tax Foundation, 2019).
  2. Strong labor unions: The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that about a third of all workers were members of unions in the 1950s. This number has since declined to around 10% today (Bureau of Labor Statistics, 2021). Unions play a critical role in protecting workers' rights and promoting wage growth, which is a significant factor in income inequality.
  3. CEO to worker wage ratio: The Economic Policy Institute reports that in 1965, CEOs in the United States earned 20 times more than a typical worker. By 1989, this ratio had grown to 58 to 1, and in recent years, it has soared to approximately 320 to 1 (Economic Policy Institute, 2020).

FDR's New Deal ushered in a range of policy changes aimed at combating the Great Depression, including increasing taxes for the wealthy and establishing a social safety net.

  1. Increasing taxes for the wealthy: The Revenue Act of 1935, sometimes called the "Wealth Tax," significantly raised taxes on higher-income individuals and corporations.
  2. Establishing a social safety net: The Social Security Act of 1935 was a major part of the New Deal's social safety net. It created a system of transfer payments in which younger, working people support older, retired people. It also established an unemployment insurance system, supported by both federal and state governments, and offered assistance to the needy, aged, blind, and families with dependent children (Social Security Administration, 2020).

References:


The assertion that supply-side economics are universally beneficial:

While the tax cuts under Reagan did stimulate some economic growth, the data doesn't show that they were the primary driver. According to data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis and the Tax Policy Center, while the economy grew by 3.5% per year on average under Reagan, it grew by 3.7% under Bill Clinton, who raised taxes on the wealthy (Gale, W.G., & Samwick, A.A. (2014). Effects of income tax changes on economic growth. Economic Studies at Brookings).
  1. The argument that lower taxes always increase tax revenues: This is a classic supply-side argument, often known as the Laffer curve, but it doesn't hold up under scrutiny. There is a point at which lower taxes can stimulate enough economic activity to increase total revenue, but many economists argue we are generally on the wrong side of that curve. Notably, even the Reagan tax cuts initially led to significant drops in revenue and spiked the federal deficit (Auerbach, A.J., & Slemrod, J. (1997). The economic effects of the Tax Reform Act of 1986. Journal of Economic Literature, 35(2), 589-632).
  2. The claim that regulation hampers economic growth: The idea that red states have fared better due to less regulation doesn't necessarily hold water. Itā€™s important to consider other factors such as urban density, population age, and the local industry structure. For example, older, densely populated states with a high reliance on hospitality and tourism (often blue states) were harder hit by the COVID-19 pandemic.
  3. The claim that Keynesian policies like those of Biden are inherently destructive: Keynesian economics suggests that in times of economic downturn, government should step in to stimulate demand, often through increased spending and deficit financing. This policy was successful in helping the U.S. escape the Great Depression and the Great Recession of 2008 (Romer, C.D. (2011). What do we know about the effects of fiscal policy? Separating evidence from ideology. Speech delivered at Hamilton College, Clinton, NY).

  • Supply-side economics theory: Mankiw, N. G. (2014). Principles of Economics. South-Western College Publishing.
  • The impact of the Reagan tax cuts: Romer, C. D., & Romer, D. H. (2010). The macroeconomic effects of tax changes: Estimates based on a new measure of fiscal shocks. American Economic Review, 100(3), 763-801. Link
  • Union membership and wage growth: Farber, H. S., Herbst, D., Kuziemko, I., & Naidu, S. (2018). Unions and inequality over the twentieth century: New evidence from survey data. NBER Working Paper No. 24587. Link
  • Globalization and the decline in manufacturing jobs: Autor, D., Dorn, D., & Hanson, G. (2016). The China Shock: Learning from Labor-Market Adjustment to Large Changes in Trade. Annual Review of Economics, 8, 205-240. Link
  • The decline in union membership and the growth of inequality: Western, B., & Rosenfeld, J. (2011). Unions, Norms, and the Rise in U.S. Wage Inequality. American Sociological Review, 76(4), 513ā€“537. Link
  • The impact of fiscal policies on economic performance: Auerbach, A. J., & Gorodnichenko, Y. (2012). Measuring the Output Responses to Fiscal Policy. American Economic Journal: Economic Policy, 4(2), 1ā€“27. Link
  • The relationship between high marginal tax rates and economic growth in the post-war era: Piketty, T., Saez, E., & Stantcheva, S. (2014). Optimal Taxation of Top Labor Incomes: A Tale of Three Elasticities. American Economic Journal: Economic Policy, 6(1), 230-271. Link
 
Then you can post the rates pre and post for every one.

DURR
1981- from 70% to 50%.
1986- from 50% to 38.5%.
Deficit- $70 billion to $175 billion.
Debt- $78 billion to $2.9 trillion.

2001- from 39.6% to 38.6%.
2003-from 38.6% to 35%.
Deficit- $238 billion surplus to $484.8 billion.
Debt- $5.6 trillion to $10.3 trillion.

2018 from 39.6% to 37%
Corporate rate from 35% to 21%
Deficit- $779 billion to $2.8 trillion.
Debt- $19 trillion to $27.8 trillion.
 
1981- from 70% to 50%.
1986- from 50% to 38.5%.
Deficit- $70 billion to $175 billion.
Debt- $78 billion to $2.9 trillion.

2001- from 39.6% to 38.6%.
2003-from 38.6% to 35%.
Deficit- $238 billion surplus to $484.8 billion.
Debt- $5.6 trillion to $10.3 trillion.

2018 from 39.6% to 37%
Corporate rate from 35% to 21%
Deficit- $779 billion to $2.8 trillion.
Debt- $19 trillion to $27.8 trillion.

The top corporate rate wasn't 70% before 1981, it was 46%.
The top corporate rate wasn't cut in 1986.
The top corporate rate wasn't cut in 2001 or 2003.

You don't know the difference between corporate and individual taxes.

That's funny!
 
The top corporate rate wasn't 70% before 1981, it was 46%.
The top corporate rate wasn't cut in 1986.
The top corporate rate wasn't cut in 2001 or 2003.

You don't know the difference between corporate and individual taxes.

That's funny!
Doesn't matter lowering the top rate, eliminated most, if not all taxes, that corporations pay.
 
Lowering the individual rate didn't mean the corporate rate was lowered.

Lowering the corporate rate from 35% to 21% didn't eliminate "most, if not all taxes, that corporations pay".
For decades, the biggest and most profitable U.S. corporations have found ways to shelter their profits from federal income taxation. ITEP reports have documented such tax avoidance since the early years of the Reagan administration's misguided tax-cutting experiment.Apr 2, 2021

55 Corporations Paid $0 in Federal Taxes on 2020 Profits​

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Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy
https://itep.org ā€ŗ 55-profitable-corporations-zero-corpora...
 
For decades, the biggest and most profitable U.S. corporations have found ways to shelter their profits from federal income taxation. ITEP reports have documented such tax avoidance since the early years of the Reagan administration's misguided tax-cutting experiment.Apr 2, 2021

55 Corporations Paid $0 in Federal Taxes on 2020 Profits

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https://itep.org ā€ŗ 55-profitable-corporations-zero-corpora...

They didn't pay $0 because Trump cut the corporate rate to 21%.
 
They didn't pay $0 because Trump cut the corporate rate to 21%.
A lot more did, because Trump did.
A decades old issue when republican teabaggers lower taxes.

For decades, the biggest and most profitable U.S. corporations have found ways to shelter their profits from federal income taxation. ITEP reports have documented such tax avoidance since the early years of the Reagan administrationā€™s misguided tax-cutting experiment. A widely cited ITEP analysis of an eight-year period (2008 through 2015) confirmed that federal tax avoidance remained rampant before the TCJA.

Now, with most corporations reporting their third year of results under the new corporate tax laws pushed through by President Donald Trump in 2017, it is crystal clear that the TCJA failed to address loopholes that enable tax dodgingā€”and may have made it worse.
 
Reagan is happy from the grave,Trump took his crown as the worst president in US history.
Tax cuts did nothing but add debt and make rich people richer.

December 24 2017
President Trump kicked off his holiday weekend at Mar-a-Lago Friday night at a dinner where he told friends, "You all just got a lot richer," referencing the sweeping tax overhaul he signed into law hours earlier.

The president has spent many weekends of his presidency so far at the "Winter White House," where initiation fees cost $200,000, annual dues cost $14,000, and some of the most affluent members of society have the opportunity to interact with the president in a setting while many Americans cannot.

April 4 2019
U.S. corporations spent a record amount buying back their own shares last year, using 2017ā€™s tax-cut windfall to reward shareholders rather than to invest or expand their businesses.

Companies in the S&P 500 spent $806 billion on stock buybacks in 2018, blowing away the previous record of nearly $590 billion set in 2007.

Who was president in 2007?
Another tax cut republican.
/----/ Hey, you big Dope...
"Tax cuts did nothing but add debt" Over spending added to the debt.
" and make rich people richer." Well, what's wrong with that?
 
/----/ Hey, you big Dope...
"Tax cuts did nothing but add debt" Over spending added to the debt.
Sure.................another 43 year old lie.
Teabaggers have NEVER cut spending when they were in office.
Then, when they did have a deficit surplus, they gave out tax cuts/rebates.
That was spending.
" and make rich people richer." Well, what's wrong with that?
Teabagger whining about "Socialism", never comes up, when it's rick people getting the benefit.
 
A lot more did, because Trump did.
A decades old issue when republican teabaggers lower taxes.

For decades, the biggest and most profitable U.S. corporations have found ways to shelter their profits from federal income taxation. ITEP reports have documented such tax avoidance since the early years of the Reagan administrationā€™s misguided tax-cutting experiment. A widely cited ITEP analysis of an eight-year period (2008 through 2015) confirmed that federal tax avoidance remained rampant before the TCJA.

Now, with most corporations reporting their third year of results under the new corporate tax laws pushed through by President Donald Trump in 2017, it is crystal clear that the TCJA failed to address loopholes that enable tax dodgingā€”and may have made it worse.
/----/ "For decades, the biggest and most profitable U.S. corporations have found ways to shelter their profits from federal income taxation"
Good. Corporations pass tax increases on to consumers in the form of higher prices. Why do you want to pay more for stuff? I don't.
 
Sure.................another 43 year old lie.
Teabaggers have NEVER cut spending when they were in office.
Then, when they did have a deficit surplus, they gave out tax cuts/rebates.
That was spending.

Teabagger whining about "Socialism", never comes up, when it's rick people getting the benefit.
/----/ What the hell are Teabaggers ???
 
The post-WW2 period also referred to as the "Golden Age of Capitalism," was indeed marked by high top marginal tax rates for the rich, strong labor unions, and a relatively low wage gap between CEOs and average workers.

  1. High top marginal tax rates: According to data from the Tax Foundation, the top marginal tax rate in the United States was indeed over 90% for much of the 1950s and remained above 70% until the 1980s (Tax Foundation, 2019).
  2. Strong labor unions: The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that about a third of all workers were members of unions in the 1950s. This number has since declined to around 10% today (Bureau of Labor Statistics, 2021). Unions play a critical role in protecting workers' rights and promoting wage growth, which is a significant factor in income inequality.
  3. CEO to worker wage ratio: The Economic Policy Institute reports that in 1965, CEOs in the United States earned 20 times more than a typical worker. By 1989, this ratio had grown to 58 to 1, and in recent years, it has soared to approximately 320 to 1 (Economic Policy Institute, 2020).

FDR's New Deal ushered in a range of policy changes aimed at combating the Great Depression, including increasing taxes for the wealthy and establishing a social safety net.

  1. Increasing taxes for the wealthy: The Revenue Act of 1935, sometimes called the "Wealth Tax," significantly raised taxes on higher-income individuals and corporations.
  2. Establishing a social safety net: The Social Security Act of 1935 was a major part of the New Deal's social safety net. It created a system of transfer payments in which younger, working people support older, retired people. It also established an unemployment insurance system, supported by both federal and state governments, and offered assistance to the needy, aged, blind, and families with dependent children (Social Security Administration, 2020).

References:


The assertion that supply-side economics are universally beneficial:

While the tax cuts under Reagan did stimulate some economic growth, the data doesn't show that they were the primary driver. According to data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis and the Tax Policy Center, while the economy grew by 3.5% per year on average under Reagan, it grew by 3.7% under Bill Clinton, who raised taxes on the wealthy (Gale, W.G., & Samwick, A.A. (2014). Effects of income tax changes on economic growth. Economic Studies at Brookings).
  1. The argument that lower taxes always increase tax revenues: This is a classic supply-side argument, often known as the Laffer curve, but it doesn't hold up under scrutiny. There is a point at which lower taxes can stimulate enough economic activity to increase total revenue, but many economists argue we are generally on the wrong side of that curve. Notably, even the Reagan tax cuts initially led to significant drops in revenue and spiked the federal deficit (Auerbach, A.J., & Slemrod, J. (1997). The economic effects of the Tax Reform Act of 1986. Journal of Economic Literature, 35(2), 589-632).
  2. The claim that regulation hampers economic growth: The idea that red states have fared better due to less regulation doesn't necessarily hold water. Itā€™s important to consider other factors such as urban density, population age, and the local industry structure. For example, older, densely populated states with a high reliance on hospitality and tourism (often blue states) were harder hit by the COVID-19 pandemic.
  3. The claim that Keynesian policies like those of Biden are inherently destructive: Keynesian economics suggests that in times of economic downturn, government should step in to stimulate demand, often through increased spending and deficit financing. This policy was successful in helping the U.S. escape the Great Depression and the Great Recession of 2008 (Romer, C.D. (2011). What do we know about the effects of fiscal policy? Separating evidence from ideology. Speech delivered at Hamilton College, Clinton, NY).

  • Supply-side economics theory: Mankiw, N. G. (2014). Principles of Economics. South-Western College Publishing.
  • The impact of the Reagan tax cuts: Romer, C. D., & Romer, D. H. (2010). The macroeconomic effects of tax changes: Estimates based on a new measure of fiscal shocks. American Economic Review, 100(3), 763-801. Link
  • Union membership and wage growth: Farber, H. S., Herbst, D., Kuziemko, I., & Naidu, S. (2018). Unions and inequality over the twentieth century: New evidence from survey data. NBER Working Paper No. 24587. Link
  • Globalization and the decline in manufacturing jobs: Autor, D., Dorn, D., & Hanson, G. (2016). The China Shock: Learning from Labor-Market Adjustment to Large Changes in Trade. Annual Review of Economics, 8, 205-240. Link
  • The decline in union membership and the growth of inequality: Western, B., & Rosenfeld, J. (2011). Unions, Norms, and the Rise in U.S. Wage Inequality. American Sociological Review, 76(4), 513ā€“537. Link
  • The impact of fiscal policies on economic performance: Auerbach, A. J., & Gorodnichenko, Y. (2012). Measuring the Output Responses to Fiscal Policy. American Economic Journal: Economic Policy, 4(2), 1ā€“27. Link
  • The relationship between high marginal tax rates and economic growth in the post-war era: Piketty, T., Saez, E., & Stantcheva, S. (2014). Optimal Taxation of Top Labor Incomes: A Tale of Three Elasticities. American Economic Journal: Economic Policy, 6(1), 230-271. Link
/----/ Nice cut & paste of more fake news. It never gets old for you, does it?
We also had plenty of tax deductions and shelters back then, so no one paid the 70%.
 
/----/ "For decades, the biggest and most profitable U.S. corporations have found ways to shelter their profits from federal income taxation"
Good. Corporations pass tax increases on to consumers in the form of higher prices. Why do you want to pay more for stuff? I don't.
THAT'S what teabaggers always claim, "Corporations pass tax increases on to consumers in the form of higher prices".

So, the ones who don't, will get consumer's business.
When have corporations lowered prices, when the get socialist, tax breaks?

They don't spend it on jobs either.

US companies' tax windfall fuels record share buybacks​

1689159204689.png
AP News
https://apnews.com ā€ŗ article

Apr 4, 2019 ā€” U.S. corporations spent a record amount buying back their own shares last year, using 2017's tax-cut windfall to reward shareholders rather ...

Companies in the S&P 500 spent $806 billion on stock buybacks in 2018, blowing away the previous record of nearly $590 billion set in 2007.
 
For decades, the biggest and most profitable U.S. corporations have found ways to shelter their profits from federal income taxation. ITEP reports have documented such tax avoidance since the early years of the Reagan administration's misguided tax-cutting experiment.Apr 2, 2021

55 Corporations Paid $0 in Federal Taxes on 2020 Profits

View attachment 803405
Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy
https://itep.org ā€ŗ 55-profitable-corporations-zero-corpora...

You don't even understand what your silly link said, do you?

LOL!
 
A lot more did, because Trump did.
A decades old issue when republican teabaggers lower taxes.

For decades, the biggest and most profitable U.S. corporations have found ways to shelter their profits from federal income taxation. ITEP reports have documented such tax avoidance since the early years of the Reagan administrationā€™s misguided tax-cutting experiment. A widely cited ITEP analysis of an eight-year period (2008 through 2015) confirmed that federal tax avoidance remained rampant before the TCJA.

Now, with most corporations reporting their third year of results under the new corporate tax laws pushed through by President Donald Trump in 2017, it is crystal clear that the TCJA failed to address loopholes that enable tax dodgingā€”and may have made it worse.

A lot more did, because Trump did.

Not a single one paid zero because Trump cut the corporate rate to 21%.

it is crystal clear that the TCJA failed to address loopholes that enable tax dodgingā€”and may have made it worse.

Which loopholes? Investing in new equipment? DURR
 
THAT'S what teabaggers always claim, "Corporations pass tax increases on to consumers in the form of higher prices".

So, the ones who don't, will get consumer's business.
When have corporations lowered prices, when the get socialist, tax breaks?

They don't spend it on jobs either.

US companies' tax windfall fuels record share buybacks

View attachment 803765
AP News
https://apnews.com ā€ŗ article
Apr 4, 2019 ā€” U.S. corporations spent a record amount buying back their own shares last year, using 2017's tax-cut windfall to reward shareholders rather ...

Companies in the S&P 500 spent $806 billion on stock buybacks in 2018, blowing away the previous record of nearly $590 billion set in 2007.

Companies in the S&P 500 spent $806 billion on stock buybacks in 2018, blowing away the previous record of nearly $590 billion set in 2007.

Oh no! My 401K went up.........LOL!
 
For decades, the biggest and most profitable U.S. corporations have found ways to shelter their profits from federal income taxation. ITEP reports have documented such tax avoidance since the early years of the Reagan administration's misguided tax-cutting experiment.Apr 2, 2021

55 Corporations Paid $0 in Federal Taxes on 2020 Profits

View attachment 803405
Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy
https://itep.org ā€ŗ 55-profitable-corporations-zero-corpora...

Is it because you're an idiot?
 

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