Saudis child soldiers: On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

[Correll]

This is a disgrace that a country like Saudi Arabia is hiring child soldiers from Darfur to fight the Saudi's dirty war in Yemen because the Saudis are cowards.

The First Scumbag Jared Kushner is up to his scrawny neck in this as are Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pompeo and all those others in the intelligence knowledge loop.

Kushner has been driving the Donald Trump policy toward Saudi Arabia because Kushner and Donald Trump stand to make money from the Saudi connection both during and after Trump's tenure.

The Trump administration is demonstrated as more an more corrupt every day.

No moral, ethical country should ally itself to the Saudis.

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

By David D. Kirkpatrick
Dec. 28, 2018

KHARTOUM, Sudan — The civil war in Darfur robbed Hager Shomo Ahmed of almost any hope. Raiders had stolen his family’s cattle, and a dozen years of bloodshed had left his parents destitute.
Then, around the end of 2016, Saudi Arabia offered a lifeline: The kingdom would pay as much as $10,000 if Hager joined its forces fighting 1,200 miles away in Yemen.

Hager, 14 at the time, could not find Yemen on a map, and his mother was appalled. He had survived one horrific civil war — how could his parents toss him into another? But the family overruled her.
“Families know that the only way their lives will change is if their sons join the war and bring them back money,” Hager said in an interview last week in the capital, Khartoum, a few days after his 16th birthday.
ADVERTISEMENT
The United Nations has called the war in Yemen the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. An intermittent blockade by the Saudis and their partners in the United Arab Emirates has pushed as many as 12 million people to the brink of starvation, killing some 85,000 children, according to aid groups.
Led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudis say they are battling to rescue Yemen from a hostile faction backed by Iran. But to do it, the Saudis have used their vast oil wealth to outsource the war, mainly by hiring what Sudanese soldiers say are tens of thousands of desperate survivors of the conflict in Darfur to fight, many of them children.

At any time for nearly four years as many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen in tandem with the local militia aligned with the Saudis, according to several Sudanese fighters who have returned and Sudanese lawmakers who are attempting to track it. Hundreds, at least, have died there.
Almost all the Sudanese fighters appear to come from the battle-scarred and impoverished region of Darfur, where some 300,000 people were killed and 1.2 million displaced during a dozen years of conflict over diminishing arable land and other scarce resources.
Most belong to the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces, a tribal militia previously known as the Janjaweed. They were blamed for the systematic rape of women and girls, indiscriminate killing and other war crimes during Darfur’s conflict, and veterans involved in those horrors are now leading their deployment to Yemen — albeit in a more formal and structured campaign.

Some families are so eager for the money that they bribe militia officers to let their sons go fight. Many are ages 14 to 17. In interviews, five fighters who have returned from Yemen and another about to depart said that children made up at least 20 percent of their units. Two said children were more than 40 percent.
To keep a safe distance from the battle lines, their Saudi or Emirati overseers commanded the Sudanese fighters almost exclusively by remote control, directing them to attack or retreat through radio headsets and GPS systems provided to the Sudanese officers in charge of each unit, the fighters all said.

As many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen at any given time for nearly four years. Hundreds, at least, have died.CreditTyler Hicks/The New York Times
“The Saudis told us what to do through the telephones and devices,” said Mohamed Suleiman al-Fadil, a 28-year-old member of the Bani Hussein tribe who returned from Yemen at the end of last year. “They never fought with us.”

“The Saudis would give us a phone call and then pull back,” agreed Ahmed, 25, a member of the Awlad Zeid tribe who fought near Hudaydah this year and who did not want his full name published for fear of government retaliation. “They treat the Sudanese like their firewood.”

A few thousand Emiratis are based around the port of Aden. But the rest of the coalition the Saudis and Emiratis have assembled is united mainly by dependence on their financial aid.

The Pakistani military, despite a parliamentary vote blocking its participation, has quietly dispatched 1,000 soldiers to bolster Saudi forces inside the kingdom. Jordan has deployed jets and military advisers. Both governments rely heavily on aid from the Gulf monarchies. (A report by a United Nations panel suggested Eritrea may have sent about 400 troops as well.)

But in Sudan, which has played a far larger role, the Saudi money appears to flow directly to the fighters — or mercenaries, as critics call them. It benefits the economy only indirectly. ...

Why is this America's problem? Are we the world's policeman?

The USA is giving Saudis political cover in the UN. That's complicity.

The UN?! lol!!! You will always find some bullshit reason to blame America first, won't you?


What do you imagine would happen if we did not "provide political cover"?

The Saudis would lose.

Lose what? THe war? HOw would anything occurring in the UnlessN lead to any effect on the battle field?

 

[Correll]

This is a disgrace that a country like Saudi Arabia is hiring child soldiers from Darfur to fight the Saudi's dirty war in Yemen because the Saudis are cowards.

The First Scumbag Jared Kushner is up to his scrawny neck in this as are Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pompeo and all those others in the intelligence knowledge loop.

Kushner has been driving the Donald Trump policy toward Saudi Arabia because Kushner and Donald Trump stand to make money from the Saudi connection both during and after Trump's tenure.

The Trump administration is demonstrated as more an more corrupt every day.

No moral, ethical country should ally itself to the Saudis.

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

By David D. Kirkpatrick
Dec. 28, 2018

KHARTOUM, Sudan — The civil war in Darfur robbed Hager Shomo Ahmed of almost any hope. Raiders had stolen his family’s cattle, and a dozen years of bloodshed had left his parents destitute.
Then, around the end of 2016, Saudi Arabia offered a lifeline: The kingdom would pay as much as $10,000 if Hager joined its forces fighting 1,200 miles away in Yemen.

Hager, 14 at the time, could not find Yemen on a map, and his mother was appalled. He had survived one horrific civil war — how could his parents toss him into another? But the family overruled her.
“Families know that the only way their lives will change is if their sons join the war and bring them back money,” Hager said in an interview last week in the capital, Khartoum, a few days after his 16th birthday.
ADVERTISEMENT
The United Nations has called the war in Yemen the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. An intermittent blockade by the Saudis and their partners in the United Arab Emirates has pushed as many as 12 million people to the brink of starvation, killing some 85,000 children, according to aid groups.
Led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudis say they are battling to rescue Yemen from a hostile faction backed by Iran. But to do it, the Saudis have used their vast oil wealth to outsource the war, mainly by hiring what Sudanese soldiers say are tens of thousands of desperate survivors of the conflict in Darfur to fight, many of them children.

At any time for nearly four years as many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen in tandem with the local militia aligned with the Saudis, according to several Sudanese fighters who have returned and Sudanese lawmakers who are attempting to track it. Hundreds, at least, have died there.
Almost all the Sudanese fighters appear to come from the battle-scarred and impoverished region of Darfur, where some 300,000 people were killed and 1.2 million displaced during a dozen years of conflict over diminishing arable land and other scarce resources.
Most belong to the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces, a tribal militia previously known as the Janjaweed. They were blamed for the systematic rape of women and girls, indiscriminate killing and other war crimes during Darfur’s conflict, and veterans involved in those horrors are now leading their deployment to Yemen — albeit in a more formal and structured campaign.

Some families are so eager for the money that they bribe militia officers to let their sons go fight. Many are ages 14 to 17. In interviews, five fighters who have returned from Yemen and another about to depart said that children made up at least 20 percent of their units. Two said children were more than 40 percent.
To keep a safe distance from the battle lines, their Saudi or Emirati overseers commanded the Sudanese fighters almost exclusively by remote control, directing them to attack or retreat through radio headsets and GPS systems provided to the Sudanese officers in charge of each unit, the fighters all said.

As many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen at any given time for nearly four years. Hundreds, at least, have died.CreditTyler Hicks/The New York Times
“The Saudis told us what to do through the telephones and devices,” said Mohamed Suleiman al-Fadil, a 28-year-old member of the Bani Hussein tribe who returned from Yemen at the end of last year. “They never fought with us.”

“The Saudis would give us a phone call and then pull back,” agreed Ahmed, 25, a member of the Awlad Zeid tribe who fought near Hudaydah this year and who did not want his full name published for fear of government retaliation. “They treat the Sudanese like their firewood.”

A few thousand Emiratis are based around the port of Aden. But the rest of the coalition the Saudis and Emiratis have assembled is united mainly by dependence on their financial aid.

The Pakistani military, despite a parliamentary vote blocking its participation, has quietly dispatched 1,000 soldiers to bolster Saudi forces inside the kingdom. Jordan has deployed jets and military advisers. Both governments rely heavily on aid from the Gulf monarchies. (A report by a United Nations panel suggested Eritrea may have sent about 400 troops as well.)

But in Sudan, which has played a far larger role, the Saudi money appears to flow directly to the fighters — or mercenaries, as critics call them. It benefits the economy only indirectly. ...

Like every Islamic shithole doesn’t abuse children? It’s a religion and culture created by the pedophile false prophet.

It just cracks me up the sudden and very selective outrage by the Marxists.

Donald Trump is a supporter of child abusers?

He made a point. YOu pretended to be too stupid to understand it.


That says a lot about the confidence you have in your own position.

You evidently don't need to pretend to be stupid.

I am here to address the ACTUAL points that other people make,


AND I am confident in my ability to do so.


So, I rarely pretend to misunderstand someone, and when I do, it is never to cowardly run from a real debate.


SO, ironically you are right.

 

[Denizen]

This is a disgrace that a country like Saudi Arabia is hiring child soldiers from Darfur to fight the Saudi's dirty war in Yemen because the Saudis are cowards.

The First Scumbag Jared Kushner is up to his scrawny neck in this as are Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pompeo and all those others in the intelligence knowledge loop.

Kushner has been driving the Donald Trump policy toward Saudi Arabia because Kushner and Donald Trump stand to make money from the Saudi connection both during and after Trump's tenure.

The Trump administration is demonstrated as more an more corrupt every day.

No moral, ethical country should ally itself to the Saudis.

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

You know what is really bad? Obama wanted people like this to come to America and live among US. But, you had your head up your ass and looked the other way...Shame on you , you worthless piece of shit.

The Saudis did come and live among their ilk, American conservatives. Then they took down the WTC while American conservatives obstructed and then corrupted investigations.

OBL was disavowed...........does that mean others there in Saudi Arabia don't like us..........not at all.........You will find the Dark Side of Islam in every country on the planet from Islam............the same can be said of almost all of them................

If it wasn't for oil............the middle east would be the same as Africa today...........

Christianity also has a dark side.

OBL was a tool of the USA in acts of terrorism against the Russians and Afghanis in the 1980s.

OBL was never diavowed by American Institutions.

Terrorism.............LOL........Russia was there for the land.........and it was their Vietnam...........we supported all the groups there at the time........repaying them for arming the N. Vietnamese..........in Vietnam............They were there to conquer and take the place..........

The Northern Alliance was part of that same group we helped............they didn't turn to the Dark Side of Islam...........OBL did and his group............

OBL was never disavowed........which dang Fantasy Island books have you been reading.

Uncle Sam and the Pentagon are one-eyed kings in the land of the blind.

They have a one-eyed, lopsided, biased view of what constitutes terrorism.

 

[Denizen]

The Saudis did come and live among their ilk, American conservatives. Then they took down the WTC while American conservatives obstructed and then corrupted investigations.

OBL was disavowed...........does that mean others there in Saudi Arabia don't like us..........not at all.........You will find the Dark Side of Islam in every country on the planet from Islam............the same can be said of almost all of them................

If it wasn't for oil............the middle east would be the same as Africa today...........

Christianity also has a dark side.

OBL was a tool of the USA in acts of terrorism against the Russians and Afghanis in the 1980s.

OBL was never diavowed by American Institutions.

Terrorism.............LOL........Russia was there for the land.........and it was their Vietnam...........we supported all the groups there at the time........repaying them for arming the N. Vietnamese..........in Vietnam............They were there to conquer and take the place..........

The Northern Alliance was part of that same group we helped............they didn't turn to the Dark Side of Islam...........OBL did and his group............

OBL was never disavowed........which dang Fantasy Island books have you been reading.

Disavowing once the partnership has soured or is no longer useful is what exceptional nations like ours do routinely. Shall we take a look at a partial listing of who we've partnered with as of late?

Osama
Saddam
al Qaida
al Nusra
ISIS
The genocidal ethnic cleansing Israelis
The radical Wahabi Islamist public square beheading journalist liquifying Saudis
NeoNazis in Ukraine

Afghanistan is Russia's Vietnam yet we've been there damn near 2 decades and the Pentagon cannot account for $21T it disappeared between 1998-2015 while our infrastructure crumbles and public water supplies are poisoned sometimes from neglect and other times intentionally?

Our policy has not always been correct...........

Who's policy was it to back the FSA and Turkish Rebels which would include al Nusra and even al Quida.......Hell they even fought with ISIS and armed ISIS.............to topple Assad................hmmm

Which President's policy was that..........Was recent but not now. LOL

When you have a military that is trained and eager to kill foreigners and they are stopped from kiling foreigners they get bored and start to cause mischief.

So the CIC relents and allows them to continue killing foreigners.

 

[Denizen]

This is a disgrace that a country like Saudi Arabia is hiring child soldiers from Darfur to fight the Saudi's dirty war in Yemen because the Saudis are cowards.

The First Scumbag Jared Kushner is up to his scrawny neck in this as are Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pompeo and all those others in the intelligence knowledge loop.

Kushner has been driving the Donald Trump policy toward Saudi Arabia because Kushner and Donald Trump stand to make money from the Saudi connection both during and after Trump's tenure.

The Trump administration is demonstrated as more an more corrupt every day.

No moral, ethical country should ally itself to the Saudis.

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

Like every Islamic shithole doesn’t abuse children? It’s a religion and culture created by the pedophile false prophet.

It just cracks me up the sudden and very selective outrage by the Marxists.

Donald Trump is a supporter of child abusers?

He made a point. YOu pretended to be too stupid to understand it.


That says a lot about the confidence you have in your own position.

You evidently don't need to pretend to be stupid.

I am here to address the ACTUAL points that other people make,


AND I am confident in my ability to do so.


So, I rarely pretend to misunderstand someone, and when I do, it is never to cowardly run from a real debate.


SO, ironically you are right.

So you confess to being a reactionary with no ideas of your own?

You evidently cannot even initiate basic bodily functions without being commanded to do so.

 

[H B Lowrie]

The Saudis did come and live among their ilk, American conservatives. Then they took down the WTC while American conservatives obstructed and then corrupted investigations.

OBL was disavowed...........does that mean others there in Saudi Arabia don't like us..........not at all.........You will find the Dark Side of Islam in every country on the planet from Islam............the same can be said of almost all of them................

If it wasn't for oil............the middle east would be the same as Africa today...........

Christianity also has a dark side.

OBL was a tool of the USA in acts of terrorism against the Russians and Afghanis in the 1980s.

OBL was never diavowed by American Institutions.

Terrorism.............LOL........Russia was there for the land.........and it was their Vietnam...........we supported all the groups there at the time........repaying them for arming the N. Vietnamese..........in Vietnam............They were there to conquer and take the place..........

The Northern Alliance was part of that same group we helped............they didn't turn to the Dark Side of Islam...........OBL did and his group............

OBL was never disavowed........which dang Fantasy Island books have you been reading.

Disavowing once the partnership has soured or is no longer useful is what exceptional nations like ours do routinely. Shall we take a look at a partial listing of who we've partnered with as of late?

Osama
Saddam
al Qaida
al Nusra
ISIS
The genocidal ethnic cleansing Israelis
The radical Wahabi Islamist public square beheading journalist liquifying Saudis
NeoNazis in Ukraine

Afghanistan is Russia's Vietnam yet we've been there damn near 2 decades and the Pentagon cannot account for $21T it disappeared between 1998-2015 while our infrastructure crumbles and public water supplies are poisoned sometimes from neglect and other times intentionally?

Our policy has not always been correct...........

Who's policy was it to back the FSA and Turkish Rebels which would include al Nusra and even al Quida.......Hell they even fought with ISIS and armed ISIS.............to topple Assad................hmmm

Which President's policy was that..........Was recent but not now. LOL

Our policy has always been what the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class shot callers demand post WWII. We now war to float our economic system. War profiteers feed at the public funding trough and it is utterly bipartisan.

 

[jknowgood]

This is a disgrace that a country like Saudi Arabia is hiring child soldiers from Darfur to fight the Saudi's dirty war in Yemen because the Saudis are cowards.

The First Scumbag Jared Kushner is up to his scrawny neck in this as are Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pompeo and all those others in the intelligence knowledge loop.

Kushner has been driving the Donald Trump policy toward Saudi Arabia because Kushner and Donald Trump stand to make money from the Saudi connection both during and after Trump's tenure.

The Trump administration is demonstrated as more an more corrupt every day.

No moral, ethical country should ally itself to the Saudis.

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

By David D. Kirkpatrick
Dec. 28, 2018

KHARTOUM, Sudan — The civil war in Darfur robbed Hager Shomo Ahmed of almost any hope. Raiders had stolen his family’s cattle, and a dozen years of bloodshed had left his parents destitute.
Then, around the end of 2016, Saudi Arabia offered a lifeline: The kingdom would pay as much as $10,000 if Hager joined its forces fighting 1,200 miles away in Yemen.

Hager, 14 at the time, could not find Yemen on a map, and his mother was appalled. He had survived one horrific civil war — how could his parents toss him into another? But the family overruled her.
“Families know that the only way their lives will change is if their sons join the war and bring them back money,” Hager said in an interview last week in the capital, Khartoum, a few days after his 16th birthday.
ADVERTISEMENT
The United Nations has called the war in Yemen the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. An intermittent blockade by the Saudis and their partners in the United Arab Emirates has pushed as many as 12 million people to the brink of starvation, killing some 85,000 children, according to aid groups.
Led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudis say they are battling to rescue Yemen from a hostile faction backed by Iran. But to do it, the Saudis have used their vast oil wealth to outsource the war, mainly by hiring what Sudanese soldiers say are tens of thousands of desperate survivors of the conflict in Darfur to fight, many of them children.

At any time for nearly four years as many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen in tandem with the local militia aligned with the Saudis, according to several Sudanese fighters who have returned and Sudanese lawmakers who are attempting to track it. Hundreds, at least, have died there.
Almost all the Sudanese fighters appear to come from the battle-scarred and impoverished region of Darfur, where some 300,000 people were killed and 1.2 million displaced during a dozen years of conflict over diminishing arable land and other scarce resources.
Most belong to the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces, a tribal militia previously known as the Janjaweed. They were blamed for the systematic rape of women and girls, indiscriminate killing and other war crimes during Darfur’s conflict, and veterans involved in those horrors are now leading their deployment to Yemen — albeit in a more formal and structured campaign.

Some families are so eager for the money that they bribe militia officers to let their sons go fight. Many are ages 14 to 17. In interviews, five fighters who have returned from Yemen and another about to depart said that children made up at least 20 percent of their units. Two said children were more than 40 percent.
To keep a safe distance from the battle lines, their Saudi or Emirati overseers commanded the Sudanese fighters almost exclusively by remote control, directing them to attack or retreat through radio headsets and GPS systems provided to the Sudanese officers in charge of each unit, the fighters all said.

As many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen at any given time for nearly four years. Hundreds, at least, have died.CreditTyler Hicks/The New York Times
“The Saudis told us what to do through the telephones and devices,” said Mohamed Suleiman al-Fadil, a 28-year-old member of the Bani Hussein tribe who returned from Yemen at the end of last year. “They never fought with us.”

“The Saudis would give us a phone call and then pull back,” agreed Ahmed, 25, a member of the Awlad Zeid tribe who fought near Hudaydah this year and who did not want his full name published for fear of government retaliation. “They treat the Sudanese like their firewood.”

A few thousand Emiratis are based around the port of Aden. But the rest of the coalition the Saudis and Emiratis have assembled is united mainly by dependence on their financial aid.

The Pakistani military, despite a parliamentary vote blocking its participation, has quietly dispatched 1,000 soldiers to bolster Saudi forces inside the kingdom. Jordan has deployed jets and military advisers. Both governments rely heavily on aid from the Gulf monarchies. (A report by a United Nations panel suggested Eritrea may have sent about 400 troops as well.)

But in Sudan, which has played a far larger role, the Saudi money appears to flow directly to the fighters — or mercenaries, as critics call them. It benefits the economy only indirectly. ...

Kinda like that caravan of illegals that tried to illegally cross over our border. Putting their women and children on the front lines getting tear gassed.
While the grown men hurled objects from behind them, at our great soldiers. Those great people you shut the goverment down for, because you want them here in our country? Those kinda people you and the democrat party are choosing over Americans to support. Fuck you and your outrage.

 

[Denizen]

This is a disgrace that a country like Saudi Arabia is hiring child soldiers from Darfur to fight the Saudi's dirty war in Yemen because the Saudis are cowards.

The First Scumbag Jared Kushner is up to his scrawny neck in this as are Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pompeo and all those others in the intelligence knowledge loop.

Kushner has been driving the Donald Trump policy toward Saudi Arabia because Kushner and Donald Trump stand to make money from the Saudi connection both during and after Trump's tenure.

The Trump administration is demonstrated as more an more corrupt every day.

No moral, ethical country should ally itself to the Saudis.

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

By David D. Kirkpatrick
Dec. 28, 2018

KHARTOUM, Sudan — The civil war in Darfur robbed Hager Shomo Ahmed of almost any hope. Raiders had stolen his family’s cattle, and a dozen years of bloodshed had left his parents destitute.
Then, around the end of 2016, Saudi Arabia offered a lifeline: The kingdom would pay as much as $10,000 if Hager joined its forces fighting 1,200 miles away in Yemen.

Hager, 14 at the time, could not find Yemen on a map, and his mother was appalled. He had survived one horrific civil war — how could his parents toss him into another? But the family overruled her.
“Families know that the only way their lives will change is if their sons join the war and bring them back money,” Hager said in an interview last week in the capital, Khartoum, a few days after his 16th birthday.
ADVERTISEMENT
The United Nations has called the war in Yemen the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. An intermittent blockade by the Saudis and their partners in the United Arab Emirates has pushed as many as 12 million people to the brink of starvation, killing some 85,000 children, according to aid groups.
Led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudis say they are battling to rescue Yemen from a hostile faction backed by Iran. But to do it, the Saudis have used their vast oil wealth to outsource the war, mainly by hiring what Sudanese soldiers say are tens of thousands of desperate survivors of the conflict in Darfur to fight, many of them children.

At any time for nearly four years as many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen in tandem with the local militia aligned with the Saudis, according to several Sudanese fighters who have returned and Sudanese lawmakers who are attempting to track it. Hundreds, at least, have died there.
Almost all the Sudanese fighters appear to come from the battle-scarred and impoverished region of Darfur, where some 300,000 people were killed and 1.2 million displaced during a dozen years of conflict over diminishing arable land and other scarce resources.
Most belong to the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces, a tribal militia previously known as the Janjaweed. They were blamed for the systematic rape of women and girls, indiscriminate killing and other war crimes during Darfur’s conflict, and veterans involved in those horrors are now leading their deployment to Yemen — albeit in a more formal and structured campaign.

Some families are so eager for the money that they bribe militia officers to let their sons go fight. Many are ages 14 to 17. In interviews, five fighters who have returned from Yemen and another about to depart said that children made up at least 20 percent of their units. Two said children were more than 40 percent.
To keep a safe distance from the battle lines, their Saudi or Emirati overseers commanded the Sudanese fighters almost exclusively by remote control, directing them to attack or retreat through radio headsets and GPS systems provided to the Sudanese officers in charge of each unit, the fighters all said.

As many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen at any given time for nearly four years. Hundreds, at least, have died.CreditTyler Hicks/The New York Times
“The Saudis told us what to do through the telephones and devices,” said Mohamed Suleiman al-Fadil, a 28-year-old member of the Bani Hussein tribe who returned from Yemen at the end of last year. “They never fought with us.”

“The Saudis would give us a phone call and then pull back,” agreed Ahmed, 25, a member of the Awlad Zeid tribe who fought near Hudaydah this year and who did not want his full name published for fear of government retaliation. “They treat the Sudanese like their firewood.”

A few thousand Emiratis are based around the port of Aden. But the rest of the coalition the Saudis and Emiratis have assembled is united mainly by dependence on their financial aid.

The Pakistani military, despite a parliamentary vote blocking its participation, has quietly dispatched 1,000 soldiers to bolster Saudi forces inside the kingdom. Jordan has deployed jets and military advisers. Both governments rely heavily on aid from the Gulf monarchies. (A report by a United Nations panel suggested Eritrea may have sent about 400 troops as well.)

But in Sudan, which has played a far larger role, the Saudi money appears to flow directly to the fighters — or mercenaries, as critics call them. It benefits the economy only indirectly. ...

Kinda like that caravan of illegals that tried to illegally cross over our border. Putting their women and children on the front lines getting tear gassed.
While the grown men hurled objects from behind them, at our great soldiers. Those great people you shut the goverment down for, because you want them here in our country? Those kinda people you and the democrat party are choosing over Americans to support. Fuck you and your outrage.

I will grant you the right to fuck my outrage because you are evidently very desperate and could otherwise be a danger to man and beast.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Hey Bonehead! My great-great uncles were hanged for murder. Does that make me a murderer? I suggest you check your family tree.

BTW, they were both innocent as another man later confessed to the crime.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You know what is really bad? Obama wanted people like this to come to America and live among US. But, you had your head up your ass and looked the other way...Shame on you , you worthless piece of shit.

The Saudis did come and live among their ilk, American conservatives. Then they took down the WTC while American conservatives obstructed and then corrupted investigations.

OBL was disavowed...........does that mean others there in Saudi Arabia don't like us..........not at all.........You will find the Dark Side of Islam in every country on the planet from Islam............the same can be said of almost all of them................

If it wasn't for oil............the middle east would be the same as Africa today...........

Christianity also has a dark side.

OBL was a tool of the USA in acts of terrorism against the Russians and Afghanis in the 1980s.

OBL was never diavowed by American Institutions.

Terrorism.............LOL........Russia was there for the land.........and it was their Vietnam...........we supported all the groups there at the time........repaying them for arming the N. Vietnamese..........in Vietnam............They were there to conquer and take the place..........

The Northern Alliance was part of that same group we helped............they didn't turn to the Dark Side of Islam...........OBL did and his group............

OBL was never disavowed........which dang Fantasy Island books have you been reading.

Disavowing once the partnership has soured or is no longer useful is what exceptional nations like ours do routinely. Shall we take a look at a partial listing of who we've partnered with as of late?

Osama
Saddam
al Qaida
al Nusra
ISIS
The genocidal ethnic cleansing Israelis
The radical Wahabi Islamist public square beheading journalist liquifying Saudis
NeoNazis in Ukraine

Afghanistan is Russia's Vietnam yet we've been there damn near 2 decades and the Pentagon cannot account for $21T it disappeared between 1998-2015 while our infrastructure crumbles and public water supplies are poisoned sometimes from neglect and other times intentionally?

$21 trillion? Please. That would be one-third of our current budget for a period of 17 years. Your numbers are bogus as a $3.00 bill!

I guess you libtards suck at math as you do at reading for comprehension.

 

[Denizen]

The Saudis did come and live among their ilk, American conservatives. Then they took down the WTC while American conservatives obstructed and then corrupted investigations.

OBL was disavowed...........does that mean others there in Saudi Arabia don't like us..........not at all.........You will find the Dark Side of Islam in every country on the planet from Islam............the same can be said of almost all of them................

If it wasn't for oil............the middle east would be the same as Africa today...........

Christianity also has a dark side.

OBL was a tool of the USA in acts of terrorism against the Russians and Afghanis in the 1980s.

OBL was never diavowed by American Institutions.

Terrorism.............LOL........Russia was there for the land.........and it was their Vietnam...........we supported all the groups there at the time........repaying them for arming the N. Vietnamese..........in Vietnam............They were there to conquer and take the place..........

The Northern Alliance was part of that same group we helped............they didn't turn to the Dark Side of Islam...........OBL did and his group............

OBL was never disavowed........which dang Fantasy Island books have you been reading.

Disavowing once the partnership has soured or is no longer useful is what exceptional nations like ours do routinely. Shall we take a look at a partial listing of who we've partnered with as of late?

Osama
Saddam
al Qaida
al Nusra
ISIS
The genocidal ethnic cleansing Israelis
The radical Wahabi Islamist public square beheading journalist liquifying Saudis
NeoNazis in Ukraine

Afghanistan is Russia's Vietnam yet we've been there damn near 2 decades and the Pentagon cannot account for $21T it disappeared between 1998-2015 while our infrastructure crumbles and public water supplies are poisoned sometimes from neglect and other times intentionally?

$21 trillion? Please. That would be one-third of our current budget for a period of 17 years. Your numbers are bogus as a $3.00 bill!

I guess you libtards suck at math as you do at reading for comprehension.

You are evidently not good with numbers which exemplifies why you chose a careeer where numbers other than body counts don't matter.

 

[Correll]

Like every Islamic shithole doesn’t abuse children? It’s a religion and culture created by the pedophile false prophet.

It just cracks me up the sudden and very selective outrage by the Marxists.

Donald Trump is a supporter of child abusers?

He made a point. YOu pretended to be too stupid to understand it.


That says a lot about the confidence you have in your own position.

You evidently don't need to pretend to be stupid.

I am here to address the ACTUAL points that other people make,


AND I am confident in my ability to do so.


So, I rarely pretend to misunderstand someone, and when I do, it is never to cowardly run from a real debate.


SO, ironically you are right.

So you confess to being a reactionary with no ideas of your own?

You evidently cannot even initiate basic bodily functions without being commanded to do so.

My statement was in response to you pretending to misunderstand another poster's post.


The context was obvious.


Ironically, you pretended to not understand the context, and once again played stupid, in order to manufacture in your own mind, a gotcha.

Demonstrating my point AGAIN.

 

[August West]

This is a disgrace that a country like Saudi Arabia is hiring child soldiers from Darfur to fight the Saudi's dirty war in Yemen because the Saudis are cowards.

The First Scumbag Jared Kushner is up to his scrawny neck in this as are Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pompeo and all those others in the intelligence knowledge loop.

Kushner has been driving the Donald Trump policy toward Saudi Arabia because Kushner and Donald Trump stand to make money from the Saudi connection both during and after Trump's tenure.

The Trump administration is demonstrated as more an more corrupt every day.

No moral, ethical country should ally itself to the Saudis.

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

By David D. Kirkpatrick
Dec. 28, 2018

KHARTOUM, Sudan — The civil war in Darfur robbed Hager Shomo Ahmed of almost any hope. Raiders had stolen his family’s cattle, and a dozen years of bloodshed had left his parents destitute.
Then, around the end of 2016, Saudi Arabia offered a lifeline: The kingdom would pay as much as $10,000 if Hager joined its forces fighting 1,200 miles away in Yemen.

Hager, 14 at the time, could not find Yemen on a map, and his mother was appalled. He had survived one horrific civil war — how could his parents toss him into another? But the family overruled her.
“Families know that the only way their lives will change is if their sons join the war and bring them back money,” Hager said in an interview last week in the capital, Khartoum, a few days after his 16th birthday.
ADVERTISEMENT
The United Nations has called the war in Yemen the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. An intermittent blockade by the Saudis and their partners in the United Arab Emirates has pushed as many as 12 million people to the brink of starvation, killing some 85,000 children, according to aid groups.
Led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudis say they are battling to rescue Yemen from a hostile faction backed by Iran. But to do it, the Saudis have used their vast oil wealth to outsource the war, mainly by hiring what Sudanese soldiers say are tens of thousands of desperate survivors of the conflict in Darfur to fight, many of them children.

At any time for nearly four years as many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen in tandem with the local militia aligned with the Saudis, according to several Sudanese fighters who have returned and Sudanese lawmakers who are attempting to track it. Hundreds, at least, have died there.
Almost all the Sudanese fighters appear to come from the battle-scarred and impoverished region of Darfur, where some 300,000 people were killed and 1.2 million displaced during a dozen years of conflict over diminishing arable land and other scarce resources.
Most belong to the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces, a tribal militia previously known as the Janjaweed. They were blamed for the systematic rape of women and girls, indiscriminate killing and other war crimes during Darfur’s conflict, and veterans involved in those horrors are now leading their deployment to Yemen — albeit in a more formal and structured campaign.

Some families are so eager for the money that they bribe militia officers to let their sons go fight. Many are ages 14 to 17. In interviews, five fighters who have returned from Yemen and another about to depart said that children made up at least 20 percent of their units. Two said children were more than 40 percent.
To keep a safe distance from the battle lines, their Saudi or Emirati overseers commanded the Sudanese fighters almost exclusively by remote control, directing them to attack or retreat through radio headsets and GPS systems provided to the Sudanese officers in charge of each unit, the fighters all said.

As many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen at any given time for nearly four years. Hundreds, at least, have died.CreditTyler Hicks/The New York Times
“The Saudis told us what to do through the telephones and devices,” said Mohamed Suleiman al-Fadil, a 28-year-old member of the Bani Hussein tribe who returned from Yemen at the end of last year. “They never fought with us.”

“The Saudis would give us a phone call and then pull back,” agreed Ahmed, 25, a member of the Awlad Zeid tribe who fought near Hudaydah this year and who did not want his full name published for fear of government retaliation. “They treat the Sudanese like their firewood.”

A few thousand Emiratis are based around the port of Aden. But the rest of the coalition the Saudis and Emiratis have assembled is united mainly by dependence on their financial aid.

The Pakistani military, despite a parliamentary vote blocking its participation, has quietly dispatched 1,000 soldiers to bolster Saudi forces inside the kingdom. Jordan has deployed jets and military advisers. Both governments rely heavily on aid from the Gulf monarchies. (A report by a United Nations panel suggested Eritrea may have sent about 400 troops as well.)

But in Sudan, which has played a far larger role, the Saudi money appears to flow directly to the fighters — or mercenaries, as critics call them. It benefits the economy only indirectly. ...

Like every Islamic shithole doesn’t abuse children? It’s a religion and culture created by the pedophile false prophet.

It just cracks me up the sudden and very selective outrage by the Marxists.

Donald Trump is a supporter of child abusers?

I don`t know if Trump is a supporter of child abusers but he did campaign for Roy Moore.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Child soldiers are the best because they are good at Call of Duty and Fortnite

 

[pismoe]

thats silly , these child soldiers are probably pretty good as they probably have familiarity with Guns , killing and seeing dead people . It was young kid 'iranian' muslim soldiers clearing mine fields with their bodies and storming 'iraqi muslim' machine gun nests during the 'iraq' 'iranian' war [about] 30 years ago . Waves of young 'iranian' muslims just kept going after the 'iraqi muslims' machine gunners in waves of young kid soldiers even though the kid soldiers were dropping like flies Biff .

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This is a disgrace that a country like Saudi Arabia is hiring child soldiers from Darfur to fight the Saudi's dirty war in Yemen because the Saudis are cowards.

The First Scumbag Jared Kushner is up to his scrawny neck in this as are Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pompeo and all those others in the intelligence knowledge loop.

Kushner has been driving the Donald Trump policy toward Saudi Arabia because Kushner and Donald Trump stand to make money from the Saudi connection both during and after Trump's tenure.

The Trump administration is demonstrated as more an more corrupt every day.

No moral, ethical country should ally itself to the Saudis.

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

By David D. Kirkpatrick
Dec. 28, 2018

KHARTOUM, Sudan — The civil war in Darfur robbed Hager Shomo Ahmed of almost any hope. Raiders had stolen his family’s cattle, and a dozen years of bloodshed had left his parents destitute.
Then, around the end of 2016, Saudi Arabia offered a lifeline: The kingdom would pay as much as $10,000 if Hager joined its forces fighting 1,200 miles away in Yemen.

Hager, 14 at the time, could not find Yemen on a map, and his mother was appalled. He had survived one horrific civil war — how could his parents toss him into another? But the family overruled her.
“Families know that the only way their lives will change is if their sons join the war and bring them back money,” Hager said in an interview last week in the capital, Khartoum, a few days after his 16th birthday.
ADVERTISEMENT
The United Nations has called the war in Yemen the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. An intermittent blockade by the Saudis and their partners in the United Arab Emirates has pushed as many as 12 million people to the brink of starvation, killing some 85,000 children, according to aid groups.
Led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudis say they are battling to rescue Yemen from a hostile faction backed by Iran. But to do it, the Saudis have used their vast oil wealth to outsource the war, mainly by hiring what Sudanese soldiers say are tens of thousands of desperate survivors of the conflict in Darfur to fight, many of them children.

At any time for nearly four years as many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen in tandem with the local militia aligned with the Saudis, according to several Sudanese fighters who have returned and Sudanese lawmakers who are attempting to track it. Hundreds, at least, have died there.
Almost all the Sudanese fighters appear to come from the battle-scarred and impoverished region of Darfur, where some 300,000 people were killed and 1.2 million displaced during a dozen years of conflict over diminishing arable land and other scarce resources.
Most belong to the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces, a tribal militia previously known as the Janjaweed. They were blamed for the systematic rape of women and girls, indiscriminate killing and other war crimes during Darfur’s conflict, and veterans involved in those horrors are now leading their deployment to Yemen — albeit in a more formal and structured campaign.

Some families are so eager for the money that they bribe militia officers to let their sons go fight. Many are ages 14 to 17. In interviews, five fighters who have returned from Yemen and another about to depart said that children made up at least 20 percent of their units. Two said children were more than 40 percent.
To keep a safe distance from the battle lines, their Saudi or Emirati overseers commanded the Sudanese fighters almost exclusively by remote control, directing them to attack or retreat through radio headsets and GPS systems provided to the Sudanese officers in charge of each unit, the fighters all said.

As many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen at any given time for nearly four years. Hundreds, at least, have died.CreditTyler Hicks/The New York Times
“The Saudis told us what to do through the telephones and devices,” said Mohamed Suleiman al-Fadil, a 28-year-old member of the Bani Hussein tribe who returned from Yemen at the end of last year. “They never fought with us.”

“The Saudis would give us a phone call and then pull back,” agreed Ahmed, 25, a member of the Awlad Zeid tribe who fought near Hudaydah this year and who did not want his full name published for fear of government retaliation. “They treat the Sudanese like their firewood.”

A few thousand Emiratis are based around the port of Aden. But the rest of the coalition the Saudis and Emiratis have assembled is united mainly by dependence on their financial aid.

The Pakistani military, despite a parliamentary vote blocking its participation, has quietly dispatched 1,000 soldiers to bolster Saudi forces inside the kingdom. Jordan has deployed jets and military advisers. Both governments rely heavily on aid from the Gulf monarchies. (A report by a United Nations panel suggested Eritrea may have sent about 400 troops as well.)

But in Sudan, which has played a far larger role, the Saudi money appears to flow directly to the fighters — or mercenaries, as critics call them. It benefits the economy only indirectly. ...

Like every Islamic shithole doesn’t abuse children? It’s a religion and culture created by the pedophile false prophet.

It just cracks me up the sudden and very selective outrage by the Marxists.

Donald Trump is a supporter of child abusers?

I don`t know if Trump is a supporter of child abusers but he did campaign for Roy Moore.

And the whole campaign against Moore was a democrat manufactured lie.

 

[eagle1462010]

In Somalia we went to SAVE THEM..........but they would rather die from starvation than embrace our help........Firing on our forces and UN forces whose only purpose was to protect food and medical supplies to save lives.............Ending in a fight because those with the guns get the food over there..........it's just the way it is...........we left.........and they went back to starving because they BIT THE HAND THAT WAS FEEDING THEM.

The Somali people were extremely thankful in the beginning that American food supplies were being distributed by our military to the starving people.

But over time, due to misguided mission creep, our military started getting involved with internal Somali political problems, which resulted in innocent civilians being killed.

And that's when the Somali people turned against us. ...

Soldiers kill civilians because they are easier to kill than armed fighters who shoot back.

Any victim of soldiers then is labeled a terrorist because they are dead and cannot deny the allegation.

They were using weapons to take the food that was sent there to save the starving.............Live by the sword........die by the sword.......

That is what happened..........Only reason they got control again was because there wasn't enough forces and support.......They didn't try that shit when we were there.

 

[Denizen]

Donald Trump is a supporter of child abusers?

He made a point. YOu pretended to be too stupid to understand it.


That says a lot about the confidence you have in your own position.

You evidently don't need to pretend to be stupid.

I am here to address the ACTUAL points that other people make,


AND I am confident in my ability to do so.


So, I rarely pretend to misunderstand someone, and when I do, it is never to cowardly run from a real debate.


SO, ironically you are right.

So you confess to being a reactionary with no ideas of your own?

You evidently cannot even initiate basic bodily functions without being commanded to do so.

My statement was in response to you pretending to misunderstand another poster's post.


The context was obvious.


Ironically, you pretended to not understand the context, and once again played stupid, in order to manufacture in your own mind, a gotcha.

Demonstrating my point AGAIN.

Your abject groveling apology is rejected. Practice your groveling until its perfect.

 

[Denizen]

This is a disgrace that a country like Saudi Arabia is hiring child soldiers from Darfur to fight the Saudi's dirty war in Yemen because the Saudis are cowards.

The First Scumbag Jared Kushner is up to his scrawny neck in this as are Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pompeo and all those others in the intelligence knowledge loop.

Kushner has been driving the Donald Trump policy toward Saudi Arabia because Kushner and Donald Trump stand to make money from the Saudi connection both during and after Trump's tenure.

The Trump administration is demonstrated as more an more corrupt every day.

No moral, ethical country should ally itself to the Saudis.

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

On the Front Line of the Saudi War in Yemen: Child Soldiers From Darfur

By David D. Kirkpatrick
Dec. 28, 2018

KHARTOUM, Sudan — The civil war in Darfur robbed Hager Shomo Ahmed of almost any hope. Raiders had stolen his family’s cattle, and a dozen years of bloodshed had left his parents destitute.
Then, around the end of 2016, Saudi Arabia offered a lifeline: The kingdom would pay as much as $10,000 if Hager joined its forces fighting 1,200 miles away in Yemen.

Hager, 14 at the time, could not find Yemen on a map, and his mother was appalled. He had survived one horrific civil war — how could his parents toss him into another? But the family overruled her.
“Families know that the only way their lives will change is if their sons join the war and bring them back money,” Hager said in an interview last week in the capital, Khartoum, a few days after his 16th birthday.
ADVERTISEMENT
The United Nations has called the war in Yemen the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. An intermittent blockade by the Saudis and their partners in the United Arab Emirates has pushed as many as 12 million people to the brink of starvation, killing some 85,000 children, according to aid groups.
Led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudis say they are battling to rescue Yemen from a hostile faction backed by Iran. But to do it, the Saudis have used their vast oil wealth to outsource the war, mainly by hiring what Sudanese soldiers say are tens of thousands of desperate survivors of the conflict in Darfur to fight, many of them children.

At any time for nearly four years as many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen in tandem with the local militia aligned with the Saudis, according to several Sudanese fighters who have returned and Sudanese lawmakers who are attempting to track it. Hundreds, at least, have died there.
Almost all the Sudanese fighters appear to come from the battle-scarred and impoverished region of Darfur, where some 300,000 people were killed and 1.2 million displaced during a dozen years of conflict over diminishing arable land and other scarce resources.
Most belong to the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces, a tribal militia previously known as the Janjaweed. They were blamed for the systematic rape of women and girls, indiscriminate killing and other war crimes during Darfur’s conflict, and veterans involved in those horrors are now leading their deployment to Yemen — albeit in a more formal and structured campaign.

Some families are so eager for the money that they bribe militia officers to let their sons go fight. Many are ages 14 to 17. In interviews, five fighters who have returned from Yemen and another about to depart said that children made up at least 20 percent of their units. Two said children were more than 40 percent.
To keep a safe distance from the battle lines, their Saudi or Emirati overseers commanded the Sudanese fighters almost exclusively by remote control, directing them to attack or retreat through radio headsets and GPS systems provided to the Sudanese officers in charge of each unit, the fighters all said.

As many as 14,000 Sudanese militiamen have been fighting in Yemen at any given time for nearly four years. Hundreds, at least, have died.CreditTyler Hicks/The New York Times
“The Saudis told us what to do through the telephones and devices,” said Mohamed Suleiman al-Fadil, a 28-year-old member of the Bani Hussein tribe who returned from Yemen at the end of last year. “They never fought with us.”

“The Saudis would give us a phone call and then pull back,” agreed Ahmed, 25, a member of the Awlad Zeid tribe who fought near Hudaydah this year and who did not want his full name published for fear of government retaliation. “They treat the Sudanese like their firewood.”

A few thousand Emiratis are based around the port of Aden. But the rest of the coalition the Saudis and Emiratis have assembled is united mainly by dependence on their financial aid.

The Pakistani military, despite a parliamentary vote blocking its participation, has quietly dispatched 1,000 soldiers to bolster Saudi forces inside the kingdom. Jordan has deployed jets and military advisers. Both governments rely heavily on aid from the Gulf monarchies. (A report by a United Nations panel suggested Eritrea may have sent about 400 troops as well.)

But in Sudan, which has played a far larger role, the Saudi money appears to flow directly to the fighters — or mercenaries, as critics call them. It benefits the economy only indirectly. ...

Like every Islamic shithole doesn’t abuse children? It’s a religion and culture created by the pedophile false prophet.

It just cracks me up the sudden and very selective outrage by the Marxists.

Donald Trump is a supporter of child abusers?

I don`t know if Trump is a supporter of child abusers but he did campaign for Roy Moore.

And the whole campaign against Moore was a democrat manufactured lie.

A conservative pervert bit the dust. None of his conservative ilk stood with him.

 

[Denizen]

In Somalia we went to SAVE THEM..........but they would rather die from starvation than embrace our help........Firing on our forces and UN forces whose only purpose was to protect food and medical supplies to save lives.............Ending in a fight because those with the guns get the food over there..........it's just the way it is...........we left.........and they went back to starving because they BIT THE HAND THAT WAS FEEDING THEM.

The Somali people were extremely thankful in the beginning that American food supplies were being distributed by our military to the starving people.

But over time, due to misguided mission creep, our military started getting involved with internal Somali political problems, which resulted in innocent civilians being killed.

And that's when the Somali people turned against us. ...

Soldiers kill civilians because they are easier to kill than armed fighters who shoot back.

Any victim of soldiers then is labeled a terrorist because they are dead and cannot deny the allegation.

They were using weapons to take the food that was sent there to save the starving.............Live by the sword........die by the sword.......

That is what happened..........Only reason they got control again was because there wasn't enough forces and support.......They didn't try that shit when we were there.

You are a perfect soldier. You believe everything you are told by superior officers and the propaganda people.