Ravi
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It is a voluntary program. ICE wants it everywhere but they don't have the power to force any state or municipality to participate.
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It is a voluntary program. ICE wants it everywhere but they don't have the power to force any state or municipality to participate.
Wrong, states do have the jurisdiction to arrest people for violating federal law, they do it all the time. Stat law enforcement arrests someone commiting a felony and the federal prosecutor, a.k.a. the u.s. attorney files charges against them. Arizona can enforce federal law, all the new law does is give the state of Arizona the authority to prosecute.Oh, Jesus...FoxNews.States aren't required to enforce Federal immigration policy. States aren't free to enact laws that allow them to arrest people for violating federal immigration policy.
Not sure where the confusion lies...but obviously many of you are confused.
The confusion lies in your head.
Federal law allows state and local law enforcement to assist in enforcing immigration law. Arizona is not trying to enforce policy, and the portions of the law requiring employers to check the immigration status of the people they hire are actually required by federal law, Arizona just imposes harsher penalties on employers who violate it. The feds routinely argue that states have the right to make laws that are tougher than federal laws, even if those laws actually affect producers on a national level. They will happily file a brief in favor of California's new requirement that all eggs sold in their state come from hens with enough room to move around, even if those eggs come from outside the border of California.
Believe it or not, this is entirely a partisan and politically motivated suit, one that is opposed even by the current Democratic candidate for the governor of Arizona. If you want to maintain your reputation as a partisan hack, feel free to keep posting in favor of the suit against Arizona.
Torn in Two Different Directions - Video - FoxNews.com
A state doesn't have the jurisdiction to arrest people that are breaking federal law. They also don't have the jurisdiction to try, convict and sentence them.
They MAY assist the Feds but they cannot write laws that give them the power to implement Federal laws in this manner.
Nope. You are incorrect. States may assist but they do not arrest or prosecute someone for committing a federal crime.Wrong, states do have the jurisdiction to arrest people for violating federal law, they do it all the time. Stat law enforcement arrests someone commiting a felony and the federal prosecutor, a.k.a. the u.s. attorney files charges against them. Arizona can enforce federal law, all the new law does is give the state of Arizona the authority to prosecute.Oh, Jesus...FoxNews.The confusion lies in your head.
Federal law allows state and local law enforcement to assist in enforcing immigration law. Arizona is not trying to enforce policy, and the portions of the law requiring employers to check the immigration status of the people they hire are actually required by federal law, Arizona just imposes harsher penalties on employers who violate it. The feds routinely argue that states have the right to make laws that are tougher than federal laws, even if those laws actually affect producers on a national level. They will happily file a brief in favor of California's new requirement that all eggs sold in their state come from hens with enough room to move around, even if those eggs come from outside the border of California.
Believe it or not, this is entirely a partisan and politically motivated suit, one that is opposed even by the current Democratic candidate for the governor of Arizona. If you want to maintain your reputation as a partisan hack, feel free to keep posting in favor of the suit against Arizona.
Torn in Two Different Directions - Video - FoxNews.com
A state doesn't have the jurisdiction to arrest people that are breaking federal law. They also don't have the jurisdiction to try, convict and sentence them.
They MAY assist the Feds but they cannot write laws that give them the power to implement Federal laws in this manner.
Illegal is illegal. Stop defending law breakers.
Oh, my bad, I didn't realize you were a liar.I just got an e-mail about the u.s. congress passing to extend soc. sec. to illegal immigrants. Not related to this topic but it shows that maybe states need to look out for themselves because the current idiots in D.C. are not.
You haven't proven anything beyond the fact that you are stupid.
It is a voluntary program.
Why do you keep babbling that over and over, do you think that will make it come true? Jesus you're stupid. Post a link that says that it is voluntary to counter the linkS I've posted that show it's not.
Ravi fail #26
Nope. You are incorrect. States may assist but they do not arrest or prosecute someone for committing a federal crime.Wrong, states do have the jurisdiction to arrest people for violating federal law, they do it all the time. Stat law enforcement arrests someone commiting a felony and the federal prosecutor, a.k.a. the u.s. attorney files charges against them. Arizona can enforce federal law, all the new law does is give the state of Arizona the authority to prosecute.Oh, Jesus...FoxNews.
A state doesn't have the jurisdiction to arrest people that are breaking federal law. They also don't have the jurisdiction to try, convict and sentence them.
They MAY assist the Feds but they cannot write laws that give them the power to implement Federal laws in this manner.
Illegal is illegal. Stop defending law breakers.
As it applies to immigration, a state or local government can detain someone, notify ICE and hold the person for a short period of time...but they may not hold them indefinitely or convict them of an immigration violation.
Why do you think Arizona passed this law anyway? They are attempting to make immigration violation a state crime so they can get around Federal law.
http://immigration.procon.org/sourc...onLawTheRoleofStateandLocalLawEnforcement.pdf
You haven't proven anything beyond the fact that you are stupid.
It is a voluntary program.
Why do you keep babbling that over and over, do you think that will make it come true? Jesus you're stupid. Post a link that says that it is voluntary to counter the linkS I've posted that show it's not.
Ravi fail #26
Like that stupidity you posted about having a right to yell fire in a crowded theater.
Wrong, states do have the jurisdiction to arrest people for violating federal law, they do it all the time. Stat law enforcement arrests someone commiting a felony and the federal prosecutor, a.k.a. the u.s. attorney files charges against them. Arizona can enforce federal law, all the new law does is give the state of Arizona the authority to prosecute.Oh, Jesus...FoxNews.The confusion lies in your head.
Federal law allows state and local law enforcement to assist in enforcing immigration law. Arizona is not trying to enforce policy, and the portions of the law requiring employers to check the immigration status of the people they hire are actually required by federal law, Arizona just imposes harsher penalties on employers who violate it. The feds routinely argue that states have the right to make laws that are tougher than federal laws, even if those laws actually affect producers on a national level. They will happily file a brief in favor of California's new requirement that all eggs sold in their state come from hens with enough room to move around, even if those eggs come from outside the border of California.
Believe it or not, this is entirely a partisan and politically motivated suit, one that is opposed even by the current Democratic candidate for the governor of Arizona. If you want to maintain your reputation as a partisan hack, feel free to keep posting in favor of the suit against Arizona.
Torn in Two Different Directions - Video - FoxNews.com
A state doesn't have the jurisdiction to arrest people that are breaking federal law. They also don't have the jurisdiction to try, convict and sentence them.
They MAY assist the Feds but they cannot write laws that give them the power to implement Federal laws in this manner.
Illegal is illegal. Stop defending law breakers.
This is a program states and cities can chose to participate in...it is not mandatory.The Federal government cannot compel states and cities to check immigration status. You can whine, you can lie, you can cry...but that is the truth of the matter.
That is all.
Yet they do just that.
San Francisco Sheriff Wants to Opt Out of Program Reporting Undocumented Immigrants to Federal Authorities
I think that trumps your that is all with the real facts.
This is a program states and cities can chose to participate in...it is not mandatory.Yet they do just that.
San Francisco Sheriff Wants to Opt Out of Program Reporting Undocumented Immigrants to Federal Authorities
I think that trumps your that is all with the real facts.
Wrong again.
All law enforcement divisions will be required to comply with it, and Sam
n Francisco is now complying despite their piddly ass little law because federal law trumps city ordinances, every time.
San Mateo County sheriff starts sending fingerprints of everyone arrested to ICE - San Jose Mercury News
Your link doesn't work.This is a program states and cities can chose to participate in...it is not mandatory.Yet they do just that.
San Francisco Sheriff Wants to Opt Out of Program Reporting Undocumented Immigrants to Federal Authorities
I think that trumps your that is all with the real facts.
Wrong again.
All law enforcement divisions will be required to comply with it, and Sam
n Francisco is now complying despite their piddly ass little law because federal law trumps city ordinances, every time.
San Mateo County sheriff starts sending fingerprints of everyone arrested to ICE - San Jose Mercury News
Your link doesn't work.This is a program states and cities can chose to participate in...it is not mandatory.
Wrong again.
All law enforcement divisions will be required to comply with it, and Sam
n Francisco is now complying despite their piddly ass little law because federal law trumps city ordinances, every time.
San Mateo County sheriff starts sending fingerprints of everyone arrested to ICE - San Jose Mercury News
If SF is complying it is because the City of SF wants to comply.