Russian wake up call on global warming

[Chris]

Russia's ongoing heat wave, along with its disastrous fallout, may have finally persuaded the Kremlin to combat climate change.

Russian officials, who have until now resisted dramatic action out of fears it would dampen economic growth, have lately issued strong statements linking global warming to the emergency Russia is currently facing. Some hope the abrupt change of tune will result in more effective environmental policies, even after the smog dies down.

"There is no question that we need to get ahead of climate change," says Vladimir Slivyak, co-chair of Ecodefense, a grass-roots Russian environmental group. "This is a wake-up call."

Moscow-region fires triple in size

The crisis, which seems to have taken the Kremlin by surprise, features a fierce and unremitting heat wave that's now well into its second month, a drought that has ruined up to a third of the vitally important grain crop, and a wave of seemingly irrepressible wildfires that have blanketed half of European Russia – including the capital, Moscow – in a cloud of smoke.

Russian fires prompt Kremlin to abruptly embrace climate change - CSMonitor.com

 

[The T]

And one would then define what is NORMAL in regard to patterns of the Earth. You're gonna have to go back a few Billion years to find that answer.

Have you or anyone the Time? But in the scheme of things? Only Humans determine what is Normal. Nature, The Earth, and GOD (All the same), sit back and laugh at our folly.

Wrong, you don't have to go back millions of years, because "normal for the earth" is irrelevant! We're concerned about what's normal for US and what WE may have been doing to change that over that last several hundred years. This IS NOT an exercise in what effect dinosaur farts may have had on the paleo-climate. It IS about what WE'RE doing to the modern climate.

Why does a mere 100 years have precedence over the previous 8000 years?

Because they think stupid people like them will fall for this shit.

 

[KissMy]

YouTube - ‪Video of smoke-veiled Moscow with sun choked out of sight‬‎

Your Russia video looks like the Smog in China on a good day.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12llTOryD30&feature=fvsr"]China Smog[/ame]

 

[The T]

YouTube - ‪Video of smoke-veiled Moscow with sun choked out of sight‬‎

Your Russia video looks like the average Smog in China.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12llTOryD30&feature=fvsr"]China Smog[/ame]

Odd? That looks almost like L.A. Before Smog Controls went in this country. And odd too? That those countries just do what they please enviromentally...while the U.S. is blamed and our politicians will seek to punish us for something WE aren't doing...

The intent of the Envirowhackos is clear...certainly the Enviro Terrorists in this nation in particuliar? On this board. They know whom they are.

Curious...

 

[skookerasbil]

LMAO.........smog in China is just more proof that even if global warming was real, doing something about it is a complete waste of time.................what?............liek the Chinese are going to do sh!t about controlling their pollution???

 

[Chris]

The number of people dying each day in Moscow has doubled as temperatures reach record heights, the city's health department said on Monday. Russia is in the grip of a heatwave that meteorologists describe as unprecedented in all the country's 1,000-year history.

The rate of deaths in the capital usually averages at 360-380 per day but has risen to 700 daily in the summer heat, according to the head of Moscow's health department, Andrei Seltsovsky.

Deaths in Moscow double in record heat | RFI

 

[westwall]

The number of people dying each day in Moscow has doubled as temperatures reach record heights, the city's health department said on Monday. Russia is in the grip of a heatwave that meteorologists describe as unprecedented in all the country's 1,000-year history.

The rate of deaths in the capital usually averages at 360-380 per day but has risen to 700 daily in the summer heat, according to the head of Moscow's health department, Andrei Seltsovsky.

Deaths in Moscow double in record heat | RFI

Actually it is mainly due to the toxic smoke. And British mortality is expected to rise with the cooling winters.

British winter death rate predicted to rise

 

[Chris]

The statistics are staggering. According to meteorologist Jeff Masters of Weather Underground, at least 26 days in a row have had temperatures exceeding 86 degrees Fahrenheit in Moscow, and those conditions are expected to continue for at least the next several days. Moscovites are simply not used to such scorching temperatures. The city's typical July daily high temperature is just 74 F, with an average August daily high of 68 F.

Authorities have already estimated that about 5,000 people may have died from the heat in Moscow alone, but that figure is expected to rise considerably, especially considering that the city has met or exceeded what had been its all-time record high temperature of 99 F five times, and has been blanketed by acrid smoke from nearby wildfires.

Relentless heat wave roasts Russia - Capital Weather Gang

 

[Old Rocks]

YouTube - ‪Video of smoke-veiled Moscow with sun choked out of sight‬‎

Your Russia video looks like the average Smog in China.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12llTOryD30&feature=fvsr"]China Smog[/ame]

Odd? That looks almost like L.A. Before Smog Controls went in this country. And odd too? That those countries just do what they please enviromentally...while the U.S. is blamed and our politicians will seek to punish us for something WE aren't doing...

The intent of the Envirowhackos is clear...certainly the Enviro Terrorists in this nation in particuliar? On this board. They know whom they are.

Curious...

The intent of the Fascist Conservatives is to lie like hell about anything that does not suit their agenda.

Not curious, just damned obvious. And extroidinerily stupid.

 

[Old Rocks]

Anyone here ever read the book on Chaos Theory? The part about the values just before the system settles in on a new 'strange attractor'?

 

[The T]

Your Russia video looks like the average Smog in China.

China Smog

Odd? That looks almost like L.A. Before Smog Controls went in this country. And odd too? That those countries just do what they please enviromentally...while the U.S. is blamed and our politicians will seek to punish us for something WE aren't doing...

The intent of the Envirowhackos is clear...certainly the Enviro Terrorists in this nation in particuliar? On this board. They know whom they are.

Curious...

The intent of the Fascist Conservatives is to lie like hell about anything that does not suit their agenda.

Not curious, just damned obvious. And extroidinerily stupid.

Get over yourself, ET.

 

[Screaming Eagle]

The statistics are staggering. According to meteorologist Jeff Masters of Weather Underground, at least 26 days in a row have had temperatures exceeding 86 degrees Fahrenheit in Moscow, and those conditions are expected to continue for at least the next several days. Moscovites are simply not used to such scorching temperatures. The city's typical July daily high temperature is just 74 F, with an average August daily high of 68 F.

Authorities have already estimated that about 5,000 people may have died from the heat in Moscow alone, but that figure is expected to rise considerably, especially considering that the city has met or exceeded what had been its all-time record high temperature of 99 F five times, and has been blanketed by acrid smoke from nearby wildfires.

Relentless heat wave roasts Russia - Capital Weather Gang

So we've had 15 degrees of global warming just this year? Damn! If this keeps up for another 4 years, you'll be able to cook your steak on the hoof here where I live!

 

[westwall]

Your Russia video looks like the average Smog in China.

China Smog

Odd? That looks almost like L.A. Before Smog Controls went in this country. And odd too? That those countries just do what they please enviromentally...while the U.S. is blamed and our politicians will seek to punish us for something WE aren't doing...

The intent of the Envirowhackos is clear...certainly the Enviro Terrorists in this nation in particuliar? On this board. They know whom they are.

Curious...

The intent of the Fascist Conservatives is to lie like hell about anything that does not suit their agenda.

Not curious, just damned obvious. And extroidinerily stupid.

Hmmmm? Another case of the pot calling the kettle black there hypocrite? I see a whole lot of fibbing in the list below and it's all from the alarmist side of the aisle. 94 full blown lies.

That's quite impressive.

Climate Scandals: List Of 94 Climate-Gates P Gosselin – NoTricksZone

 

[Chris]

Smoke from wildfires cause by the worst heat wave in Russia’s history are choking Moscow for a third straight day today, bringing air pollution levels to three times the safe level and forcing cancellation of dozens of flights. However, air pollution is not quite as bad as it was yesterday, when carbon monoxide levels peaked at 6.5 times the safe level. Visibilities at Moscow’s airport were higher today (500+ meters), but temperatures still hit 36°C (97°F). The past 26 days in a row have exceeded 30°C in Moscow, and there is no relief in sight–the latest forecast for Moscow calls for high temperatures near 100°F (37.8°C) for the majority of the coming week. As I reported, the number of deaths in Moscow in July 2010 was about 5,000 more than in July 2009, suggesting that the heat wave has been responsible for thousands of deaths in Moscow alone. I would expect that by the time the Great Russian Heat Wave of 2010 is over, the number of premature deaths caused by the heat wave will approach or exceed the 40,000 who died in the 2003 European Heat Wave. As seen in Figure 3, the Russian heat wave of 2010 is more intense and affects a wider region than the great 2003 European heat wave.

Manifestations of Runaway Climate Change | Dissident Voice

 

[Chris]

Forest wardens today stepped up patrols in the Chernobyl fallout zone as a leading ecologist warned that fires could send radioactive particles as far as Moscow.

Around 160,000 emergency personnel are battling 600 wildfires across Russia, 290 of which ignited in the last 24 hours.

Greenpeace said at least 20 fires – three of them in a highly contaminated forest area – had broken out in the Bryansk region, bordering northern Ukraine, in recent days.

Bryansk was part of the zone sprayed with a plume of radioactive isotopes caesium-137 and strontium-90 when the Chernobyl power plant's fourth reactor exploded in 1986.

Alexei Yablokov, a member of the Academy of Sciences, warned that winds could spread contaminants embedded in trees and plants as they succumbed to the inferno.

"Radionuclides may reach places at distances of hundreds of kilometres, depending on the weather," he said. "If the Bryansk region is in flames, they can reach the Novgorod region, Moscow and, in some conditions, eastern Europe."

Fears Russian wildfires could drive radioactive Chernobyl waste towards Moscow | World news | The Guardian

 

[westwall]

Forest wardens today stepped up patrols in the Chernobyl fallout zone as a leading ecologist warned that fires could send radioactive particles as far as Moscow.

Around 160,000 emergency personnel are battling 600 wildfires across Russia, 290 of which ignited in the last 24 hours.

Greenpeace said at least 20 fires – three of them in a highly contaminated forest area – had broken out in the Bryansk region, bordering northern Ukraine, in recent days.

Bryansk was part of the zone sprayed with a plume of radioactive isotopes caesium-137 and strontium-90 when the Chernobyl power plant's fourth reactor exploded in 1986.

Alexei Yablokov, a member of the Academy of Sciences, warned that winds could spread contaminants embedded in trees and plants as they succumbed to the inferno.

"Radionuclides may reach places at distances of hundreds of kilometres, depending on the weather," he said. "If the Bryansk region is in flames, they can reach the Novgorod region, Moscow and, in some conditions, eastern Europe."

Fears Russian wildfires could drive radioactive Chernobyl waste towards Moscow | World news | The Guardian

Predicted by Piers Corbyn and the CO2 myth is debunked.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWZEem_LQc0]YouTube - The CO2 Myth - Piers Corbyn on RussiaToday 9/8/10[/ame]

 

[westwall]

I just saw this on Roger Pielke Jr's. blog about the WMO silly report. An interesting comment was posted about the Russian wildfires and here it is.

"One issue that is being ignored in the West is that the Russian are themselves reporting that magnitude and destructive power of these fires are due to a complete collapse of forest management, i.e. the maintaing of firebreaks, the clearing of overgrowth and other debris. It is being reported that the number of forest managers, forest rangers and other forest workers have been reduced by nearly 85% over the years."

 

[Chris]

MOSCOW — Heavy downpours cooled the Russian capital after weeks of no rain and unprecedented heat, but dozens of wildfires still raged around Moscow on Friday and a new blaze was spotted near the country's top nuclear research center.

The city remains largely free of the clouds of suffocating smog that affected it earlier, but meteorologists say smoke from burning forests and peat bogs may choke the city over the weekend if the wind direction changes.

The Emergency Situations Ministry said its teams have managed to reduce the area covered by wildfires, but more than 500 were continuing to burn across the country, including 29 around Moscow. It said about 14,000 firefighters were battling blazes around the Russian capital.

The Associated Press: Rain refreshes Moscow, but wildfires still burning

 

[westwall]

MOSCOW — Heavy downpours cooled the Russian capital after weeks of no rain and unprecedented heat, but dozens of wildfires still raged around Moscow on Friday and a new blaze was spotted near the country's top nuclear research center.

The city remains largely free of the clouds of suffocating smog that affected it earlier, but meteorologists say smoke from burning forests and peat bogs may choke the city over the weekend if the wind direction changes.

The Emergency Situations Ministry said its teams have managed to reduce the area covered by wildfires, but more than 500 were continuing to burn across the country, including 29 around Moscow. It said about 14,000 firefighters were battling blazes around the Russian capital.

The Associated Press: Rain refreshes Moscow, but wildfires still burning

"One issue that is being ignored in the West is that the Russian are themselves reporting that magnitude and destructive power of these fires are due to a complete collapse of forest management, i.e. the maintaing of firebreaks, the clearing of overgrowth and other debris. It is being reported that the number of forest managers, forest rangers and other forest workers have been reduced by nearly 85% over the years."

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, you have at least a little bit of a point -for a change- in that you oughtta be embarrassed.

But not for the reason you may have thought.

Geez. Just when I thought that we had seen the epitome of idiocy on this board, up crops another contender