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and making the mirror copy allows more than one agent or cyber expert, to work on these discoveries at the same time!Yes this done before the day Trump is supposed to meet with Putin, partisan hacks..
Yet there is nothing that can be done to them since they are not in the US.
Although did anyone at these "intelligence" agencies look at the DNC server?
First off, CrowdStrike, the company the DNC brought in to initially investigate and remediate the hack, actually shared images of the DNC servers with the FBI. For the purposes of an investigation of this type, images are much more useful than handing over metal and hardware, because they are bit-by-bit copies of a crime scene taken while the crime was going on. Live hard drive and memory snapshots of blinking, powered-on machines in a network reveal significantly more forensic data than some powered-off server removed from a network. It’s the difference between watching a house over time, carefully noting down who comes and goes and when and how, versus handing over a key to a lonely boarded-up building. By physically handing over a server to the FBI as Trump suggested, the DNC would in fact have destroyed evidence. (Besides, there wasn’t just one server, but 140.)
An advanced investigation of an advanced hacking operation requires significantly more than just access to servers. Investigators want access to the attack infrastructure—the equivalent to a chain of getaway cars of a team of burglars. And the latest indictments are rich with details that likely come from intercepting command-and-control boxes (in effect, bugging those getaway cars) and have nothing to do with physical access to the DNC’s servers.
The FBI and Robert Mueller’s investigators discovered when and how specific Russian military officers logged into a control panel on a leased machine in Arizona. They found that the GRU officers secretly surveiled an empoyee of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee all day in real time, including spying on “her individual banking information and other personal topics.” They showed that “Guccifer 2.0,” the supposed lone hacker behind the DNC hack, was in fact managed by a specific GRU unit, and even reconstructed the internet searches made within that unit while a GRU officer with shoddy English skills was drafting the first post as Guccifer 2.0. None of this information could have possibly come from any DNC server.
With help from the broader intelligence community, the FBI was able to piece all these details together into the bigger picture of the GRU’s vast hacking effort. The complexity of high-tempo, high-volume hacking campaigns means that attackers can make myriad mistakes; Mueller’s latest indictments reveal just how successful American investigators have been at exploiting those repeated errors and uncovering more and more information about what Russia did.
The Russian spies, for example, reused a specific account for a virtual private network (a purportedly secure communication link) to register deceptive internet domains for the DNC hack, as well as to post stolen material online under the Guccifer 2.0 front. Cryptocurrency payments—the kind the Russians used to pay for registering the DCLeaks.com site and their VPN—were neither as anonymous nor as secure as the GRU thought they would be. Third-party platforms including Google, Twitter and the link-shortening service Bitly were convenient and reliable for Russian hackers, but they could also be subpoenaed. Mueller’s team did exactly that, reconstructing how, when and how frequently Russian intelligence officers communicated with WikiLeaks, which they used as an outlet for the stolen material. The Russians weren’t even particularly careful: WikiLeaks and the Russians officers, in a major cock-up, encrypted the hacked emails, but did not encrypt the details of their collaboration. And in using a Bitly account to automate the shortened links sent out to targets of their email-phishing scheme, the GRU left an investigative gold mine: a vast target list of more than 10,000 potential victims’ email addresses.
Yet we are supposed to believe it was the Russians, even when the DNC would not turn over their servers..
YOU are supposed to believe whatever Don the Con tells you to believe.
I don't expect you to ever believe anything more complicated than that.
?Obviously, the DNC must have had many things to HIDE, which is why they refused access to their servers.
LOL Well the Russians revealed a lot of what was on those servers.
Certainly the Russians did- specifically they did it to hurt Clinton- and help Trump in the election.
Of course they did because Putin hates Hitlery. She tried to interfere with the Russian elections.
You can bet he would have done the same thing no matter who her opponent was.
Oh and you still haven't answered the question. What do you thing Trump could have done? He had no power to do anything. He wasn't POTUS. Barry was.
The far left does not want to admit that Hilary is worse than Trump.
They did not care when Obama allowed Putin to expand his influence in the world.
Yet they blame Trump for what Obama would not do!
The far right only wants to blame Obama and Clinton- whenever Don the Con inevitably kow tows to another dictator.
Obama knew what was going on, and did nothing to protect Americans. He should be prosecuted.Not a single vote was changed!!!!!How did they change votes?
THE SOVIETS DID NOT INTERFERE WITH THE 2016 ELECTIONS!
They DID interfere with the DNC campaigns as the Dims were too stupid to properly protect their computers. The RNCs were heavily protected and the Russians couldn't crack them.
Yup. that's it in a nutshell.
Oh and Barry was POTUS. Trump was a candidate for POTUS. He had no power at all. Barry is the one they should be asking questions.
You do seem determined to protect the Russians by blaming Obama for the Russians crimes against America.
Trump was a candidate for POTUS. He had no power to do anything.
Barry was POTUS so why didn't his intelligence agencies and his cyber folks stop the hack??
Those are the questions you should be asking. Why aren't you??
Instead of asking questions about Russia?
You do seem determined to protect the Russians by blaming Obama for the Russians crimes against America.
are you actually suggesting that these criminals should not be charged with the crimes they committed...that prosecutors should simply sweep them under the rug if they are not citizens and can't be forced to come here for trial?
here's a clue,
it doesn't work that way.....
clueless!^^^^are you actually suggesting that these criminals should not be charged with the crimes they committed...that prosecutors should simply sweep them under the rug if they are not citizens and can't be forced to come here for trial?
here's a clue,
it doesn't work that way.....
Sure let's spend billions of dwindling US funds on this witch hunt, true or not....
Meanwhile dems up and down ticket in 2016 lost to middle dems defecting. You're never going to prove that was from the Russians. So if the end game is"impeaching Trump because he and the Russians interfered with the election", you're going to have to demonstrate in some court why it was that the down-ticket dems lost also. Didn't see a whole lot about their emails getting hacked etc.
I'm just not into wasting the taxpayer's money on a bullshit game the dem far left operatives are playing to divert their base from the understanding that it was their PLATFORM that lost the election. And we all know what platform that is...
Obama knew what was going on, and did nothing to protect Americans. He should be prosecuted.Not a single vote was changed!!!!!
THE SOVIETS DID NOT INTERFERE WITH THE 2016 ELECTIONS!
They DID interfere with the DNC campaigns as the Dims were too stupid to properly protect their computers. The RNCs were heavily protected and the Russians couldn't crack them.
Yup. that's it in a nutshell.
Oh and Barry was POTUS. Trump was a candidate for POTUS. He had no power at all. Barry is the one they should be asking questions.
You do seem determined to protect the Russians by blaming Obama for the Russians crimes against America.
Trump was a candidate for POTUS. He had no power to do anything.
Barry was POTUS so why didn't his intelligence agencies and his cyber folks stop the hack??
Those are the questions you should be asking. Why aren't you??
Instead of asking questions about Russia?
You do seem determined to protect the Russians by blaming Obama for the Russians crimes against America.
what billions?Sure let's spend billions of dwindling US funds on this witch hunt, true or not....
The burden is upon prosecutors to show that a loss of votes directly stemmed from any alleged Russian involvement. Which is an impossible burden to meet because of what also happened to down ticket dems due to voters rejecting the party platform in general. Therefore any losses Hillary (head dem candidate) experienced is likely due to the same rejection as down ticket.so you want no law enforcement investigations at all if the criminals committing the crimes here, are foreigners?...sorry, that's simply not how it works!
no, they are not even looking in to that...The burden is upon prosecutors to show that a loss of votes directly stemmed from any alleged Russian involvement. Which is an impossible burden to meet because of what also happened to down ticket dems due to voters rejecting the party platform in general. Therefore any losses Hillary (head dem candidate) experienced is likely due to the same rejection as down ticket.so you want no law enforcement investigations at all if the criminals committing the crimes here, are foreigners?...sorry, that's simply not how it works!
Therefore: a waste of precious taxpayer funds to pursue.
What would upset the FBI is if one of them shows up. This happened on another perons from Russia who was named and no one contacted him and so he vactioned in NY and returned to Russia without any contact with the Russian probe. STRANGE.What is going to force the 12 Russians to show up in an American court? But, here’s the part the media won’t report:
The indictment does not allege that Trump campaign associates were involved in the hacking efforts or that any American was knowingly in contact with Russian intelligence officers.
The indictment also does not allege that any vote tallies were altered by hacking.
In other words, the entire Mueller investigation is a farce and has no reason to continue.
More @ Mueller Charges 12 Russians in 2016 Election Hacking of Democrats
"DOJ/Mueller release their indictments against 12 Russians outside the jurisdiction of the US. @ Thread by @Techno_Fog: "DOJ/Mueller release their indictments against 12 Russians outside the jurisdiction of the US. Rosenstein announces no American was involved. […]"
It's like chasing an expensive mirage that will have no tangible results. There will be no impeachment. The Russians constantly meddle in subversion in US affairs & arent going to out themselves so you can un-elect Donald Trump.no, they are not even looking in to that...The burden is upon prosecutors to show that a loss of votes directly stemmed from any alleged Russian involvement. Which is an impossible burden to meet because of what also happened to down ticket dems due to voters rejecting the party platform in general. Therefore any losses Hillary (head dem candidate) experienced is likely due to the same rejection as down ticket.so you want no law enforcement investigations at all if the criminals committing the crimes here, are foreigners?...sorry, that's simply not how it works!
Therefore: a waste of precious taxpayer funds to pursue.
the CRIMES were committed regardless of the results....
read the darn indictment from last Friday.... take the 30 minutes and read it all, to inform yourself, pretty please!
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/07/13/gru.indictment.pdf
Hillary's emails, destroyed, DNC servers not still not handed to FBI, 12 of Hillary's cell phones, smashed, Hillary's Pakistani IT guy, arrested at the airport while trying to flee, those servers, also disappeared...yup...nothing to hide...it's just a coincidence that all these emails, devices, and servers keep getting destroyed or somehow kept away!Obviously, the DNC must have had many things to HIDE, which is why they refused access to their servers.And we don't know WHO hacked the DNC servers, because the crooks did not allow the FBI to see it, just like Hillary smashed all those cell phones and ipads. Amazing, the criminal behavior the DNC and Hillary got away with.No "hacking" occurred. Digital propaganda campaigns did occur, but many countries participated in that, perhaps this time around Russia may have done more.
There is no evidence whatsoever that a single vote was changed or a single voting system was affected in any way.
Yup. They hacked the DNC servers. The FBI had already told the DNC IT guy that it could happen and he did nothing. What a moron.
Well they couldn't have been to concerned or they would have let the FBI have the servers.
One has to wonder why the FBI didn't cease those servers??
Except of course that is just a Contard lie.
But I find it fascinating about how you Trumpkins want to talk about anything but the Russians and their attempt to hack the election.
What Mueller Knows About the DNC Hack—And Trump Doesn’t
And a close read of it all shows why Trump’s “DNC didn’t give the server to the FBI” conspiracy theory makes no sense.
First off, CrowdStrike, the company the DNC brought in to initially investigate and remediate the hack, actually shared images of the DNC servers with the FBI. For the purposes of an investigation of this type, images are much more useful than handing over metal and hardware, because they are bit-by-bit copies of a crime scene taken while the crime was going on. Live hard drive and memory snapshots of blinking, powered-on machines in a network reveal significantly more forensic data than some powered-off server removed from a network. It’s the difference between watching a house over time, carefully noting down who comes and goes and when and how, versus handing over a key to a lonely boarded-up building. By physically handing over a server to the FBI as Trump suggested, the DNC would in fact have destroyed evidence. (Besides, there wasn’t just one server, but 140.)
An advanced investigation of an advanced hacking operation requires significantly more than just access to servers. Investigators want access to the attack infrastructure—the equivalent to a chain of getaway cars of a team of burglars. And the latest indictments are rich with details that likely come from intercepting command-and-control boxes (in effect, bugging those getaway cars) and have nothing to do with physical access to the DNC’s servers.
The FBI and Robert Mueller’s investigators discovered when and how specific Russian military officers logged into a control panel on a leased machine in Arizona. They found that the GRU officers secretly surveiled an empoyee of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee all day in real time, including spying on “her individual banking information and other personal topics.” They showed that “Guccifer 2.0,” the supposed lone hacker behind the DNC hack, was in fact managed by a specific GRU unit, and even reconstructed the internet searches made within that unit while a GRU officer with shoddy English skills was drafting the first post as Guccifer 2.0. None of this information could have possibly come from any DNC server.
With help from the broader intelligence community, the FBI was able to piece all these details together into the bigger picture of the GRU’s vast hacking effort. The complexity of high-tempo, high-volume hacking campaigns means that attackers can make myriad mistakes; Mueller’s latest indictments reveal just how successful American investigators have been at exploiting those repeated errors and uncovering more and more information about what Russia did.
The Russian spies, for example, reused a specific account for a virtual private network (a purportedly secure communication link) to register deceptive internet domains for the DNC hack, as well as to post stolen material online under the Guccifer 2.0 front. Cryptocurrency payments—the kind the Russians used to pay for registering the DCLeaks.com site and their VPN—were neither as anonymous nor as secure as the GRU thought they would be. Third-party platforms including Google, Twitter and the link-shortening service Bitly were convenient and reliable for Russian hackers, but they could also be subpoenaed. Mueller’s team did exactly that, reconstructing how, when and how frequently Russian intelligence officers communicated with WikiLeaks, which they used as an outlet for the stolen material. The Russians weren’t even particularly careful: WikiLeaks and the Russians officers, in a major cock-up, encrypted the hacked emails, but did not encrypt the details of their collaboration. And in using a Bitly account to automate the shortened links sent out to targets of their email-phishing scheme, the GRU left an investigative gold mine: a vast target list of more than 10,000 potential victims’ email addresses.
Putin hates Hillary because she gave him a defective reset button that was made in China.?Obviously, the DNC must have had many things to HIDE, which is why they refused access to their servers.And we don't know WHO hacked the DNC servers, because the crooks did not allow the FBI to see it, just like Hillary smashed all those cell phones and ipads. Amazing, the criminal behavior the DNC and Hillary got away with.
Well they couldn't have been to concerned or they would have let the FBI have the servers.
One has to wonder why the FBI didn't cease those servers??
LOL Well the Russians revealed a lot of what was on those servers.
Certainly the Russians did- specifically they did it to hurt Clinton- and help Trump in the election.
Of course they did because Putin hates Hitlery. She tried to interfere with the Russian elections.
You can bet he would have done the same thing no matter who her opponent was.
Oh and you still haven't answered the question. What do you think Trump could have done? He had no power to do anything. He wasn't POTUS. Barry was.
Putin hates Hillary because she gave him a defective reset button that was made in China.?Obviously, the DNC must have had many things to HIDE, which is why they refused access to their servers.Well they couldn't have been to concerned or they would have let the FBI have the servers.
One has to wonder why the FBI didn't cease those servers??
LOL Well the Russians revealed a lot of what was on those servers.
Certainly the Russians did- specifically they did it to hurt Clinton- and help Trump in the election.
Of course they did because Putin hates Hitlery. She tried to interfere with the Russian elections.
You can bet he would have done the same thing no matter who her opponent was.
Oh and you still haven't answered the question. What do you think Trump could have done? He had no power to do anything. He wasn't POTUS. Barry was.
Putin hates Hillary because she gave him a defective reset button that was made in China.?Obviously, the DNC must have had many things to HIDE, which is why they refused access to their servers.Well they couldn't have been to concerned or they would have let the FBI have the servers.
One has to wonder why the FBI didn't cease those servers??
LOL Well the Russians revealed a lot of what was on those servers.
Certainly the Russians did- specifically they did it to hurt Clinton- and help Trump in the election.
Of course they did because Putin hates Hitlery. She tried to interfere with the Russian elections.
You can bet he would have done the same thing no matter who her opponent was.
Oh and you still haven't answered the question. What do you think Trump could have done? He had no power to do anything. He wasn't POTUS. Barry was.
Hillary's emails, destroyed, DNC servers not still not handed to FBI,Obviously, the DNC must have had many things to HIDE, which is why they refused access to their servers.And we don't know WHO hacked the DNC servers, because the crooks did not allow the FBI to see it, just like Hillary smashed all those cell phones and ipads. Amazing, the criminal behavior the DNC and Hillary got away with.Yup. They hacked the DNC servers. The FBI had already told the DNC IT guy that it could happen and he did nothing. What a moron.
Well they couldn't have been to concerned or they would have let the FBI have the servers.
One has to wonder why the FBI didn't cease those servers??
Except of course that is just a Contard lie.
But I find it fascinating about how you Trumpkins want to talk about anything but the Russians and their attempt to hack the election.
What Mueller Knows About the DNC Hack—And Trump Doesn’t
And a close read of it all shows why Trump’s “DNC didn’t give the server to the FBI” conspiracy theory makes no sense.
First off, CrowdStrike, the company the DNC brought in to initially investigate and remediate the hack, actually shared images of the DNC servers with the FBI. For the purposes of an investigation of this type, images are much more useful than handing over metal and hardware, because they are bit-by-bit copies of a crime scene taken while the crime was going on. Live hard drive and memory snapshots of blinking, powered-on machines in a network reveal significantly more forensic data than some powered-off server removed from a network. It’s the difference between watching a house over time, carefully noting down who comes and goes and when and how, versus handing over a key to a lonely boarded-up building. By physically handing over a server to the FBI as Trump suggested, the DNC would in fact have destroyed evidence. (Besides, there wasn’t just one server, but 140.)
An advanced investigation of an advanced hacking operation requires significantly more than just access to servers. Investigators want access to the attack infrastructure—the equivalent to a chain of getaway cars of a team of burglars. And the latest indictments are rich with details that likely come from intercepting command-and-control boxes (in effect, bugging those getaway cars) and have nothing to do with physical access to the DNC’s servers.
The FBI and Robert Mueller’s investigators discovered when and how specific Russian military officers logged into a control panel on a leased machine in Arizona. They found that the GRU officers secretly surveiled an empoyee of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee all day in real time, including spying on “her individual banking information and other personal topics.” They showed that “Guccifer 2.0,” the supposed lone hacker behind the DNC hack, was in fact managed by a specific GRU unit, and even reconstructed the internet searches made within that unit while a GRU officer with shoddy English skills was drafting the first post as Guccifer 2.0. None of this information could have possibly come from any DNC server.
With help from the broader intelligence community, the FBI was able to piece all these details together into the bigger picture of the GRU’s vast hacking effort. The complexity of high-tempo, high-volume hacking campaigns means that attackers can make myriad mistakes; Mueller’s latest indictments reveal just how successful American investigators have been at exploiting those repeated errors and uncovering more and more information about what Russia did.
The Russian spies, for example, reused a specific account for a virtual private network (a purportedly secure communication link) to register deceptive internet domains for the DNC hack, as well as to post stolen material online under the Guccifer 2.0 front. Cryptocurrency payments—the kind the Russians used to pay for registering the DCLeaks.com site and their VPN—were neither as anonymous nor as secure as the GRU thought they would be. Third-party platforms including Google, Twitter and the link-shortening service Bitly were convenient and reliable for Russian hackers, but they could also be subpoenaed. Mueller’s team did exactly that, reconstructing how, when and how frequently Russian intelligence officers communicated with WikiLeaks, which they used as an outlet for the stolen material. The Russians weren’t even particularly careful: WikiLeaks and the Russians officers, in a major cock-up, encrypted the hacked emails, but did not encrypt the details of their collaboration. And in using a Bitly account to automate the shortened links sent out to targets of their email-phishing scheme, the GRU left an investigative gold mine: a vast target list of more than 10,000 potential victims’ email addresses.
no, they are not even looking in to that...The burden is upon prosecutors to show that a loss of votes directly stemmed from any alleged Russian involvement. Which is an impossible burden to meet because of what also happened to down ticket dems due to voters rejecting the party platform in general. Therefore any losses Hillary (head dem candidate) experienced is likely due to the same rejection as down ticket.so you want no law enforcement investigations at all if the criminals committing the crimes here, are foreigners?...sorry, that's simply not how it works!
Therefore: a waste of precious taxpayer funds to pursue.
the CRIMES were committed regardless of the results....
read the darn indictment from last Friday.... take the 30 minutes and read it all, to inform yourself, pretty please!
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/07/13/gru.indictment.pdf
The burden is upon prosecutors to show that a loss of votes directly stemmed from any alleged Russian involvement. .so you want no law enforcement investigations at all if the criminals committing the crimes here, are foreigners?...sorry, that's simply not how it works!
are you actually suggesting that these criminals should not be charged with the crimes they committed...that prosecutors should simply sweep them under the rug if they are not citizens and can't be forced to come here for trial?
here's a clue,
it doesn't work that way.....
Sure let's spend billions of dwindling US funds on this witch hunt, true or not......
Obama knew what was going on, and did nothing to protect Americans. He should be prosecuted.Not a single vote was changed!!!!!
THE SOVIETS DID NOT INTERFERE WITH THE 2016 ELECTIONS!
They DID interfere with the DNC campaigns as the Dims were too stupid to properly protect their computers. The RNCs were heavily protected and the Russians couldn't crack them.
Yup. that's it in a nutshell.
Oh and Barry was POTUS. Trump was a candidate for POTUS. He had no power at all. Barry is the one they should be asking questions.
You do seem determined to protect the Russians by blaming Obama for the Russians crimes against America.
Trump was a candidate for POTUS. He had no power to do anything.
Barry was POTUS so why didn't his intelligence agencies and his cyber folks stop the hack??
Those are the questions you should be asking. Why aren't you??
Instead of asking questions about Russia?
You do seem determined to protect the Russians by blaming Obama for the Russians crimes against America.
