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How could Germany surrender if Hitler didn't surrender? Is there evidence somewhere to indicate there was a force in Germany that could rebel against Hitler and his doctrine of no surrender under any conditions and go against him without being lined up in front of a wall and shot or strung up with piano wire?
The magical "anti-Nazis" of Frau Brauns fantasies did not even have enough power in May 1945 to arrange terms of surrender. This with the Nazi army crumbling and manned by little boys and old men
THe anti-Nazis of 1945 knew that there was no chance of any "terms of surrender". Allied policy had been very clear for a long time.
5 years might be the very best case scenario.
2 years? A border in the COld War that does not run right down the middle of Germany? Perhaps a setup that defuses that Cold War?
One does have to judge historical figures based on what they knew at the time.
But FDR signed an agreement with Stalin, where Stalin promised to have free elections in Soviet occupied Europe.
Did FDR believe that?
Did he have any plans to follow up on that?
Did he just write off Eastern Europe?
Did he give any consideration for the Balance of Power in the Post War world?
"Did he just write off Eastern Europe?"
1. By agreeing to Stalin's demands that the 'second front' be via Western Europe, rather than the Italy-Adriatic, Franklin Roosevelt was agreeing to turn Central and Eastern Europe over to occupation by the Red Army....and its 'tender mercies.'
Harry Hopkins and George Marshall were fully behind handing all of Eastern Europe over to Stalin's tender mercies.
Remember...they knew of the Terror Famine, the Katyn Forest Massacre, and other blood purges. by Stalin.
Evidence can be seen in a document which Hopkins took with him to the Quebec conference in August, 1943, entitled "Russia's Position," quoted as follows in Robert Sherwood's book, "Roosevelt and Hopkins: An Intimate History,":
"Russia's post-war position in Europe will be a dominant one. With Germany crushed, there is no power in Europe to oppose her tremendous military forces."
2. Along came President Roosevelt, with the typical progressive blind eye to human suffering and slaughter. He ignored the 3-5 million starved to death in the Ukraine by the regime of the USSR, and rushed to embrace it, offering recognition in November of 1933.
The saddest of all is the moron, Camp, claiming that Roosevelt had 'a moral compass.'