Roosevelt....the Un-Reagan

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    PC depends on and expects readers to NOT check her sources. If the reader clicks on The Washington Monthly link they will discover an article that actually disputes her entire post. She blindly used it because it contained a quote that fit her agenda, but the quote was used to show an example of a false reporting and allegation. Directly following the quote:

    "Wirt's provocative tale soon feel apart; his "evidence" crumbled, and Republican leaders decided they didn't want anything to do with the guy. He quickly vanished from the public spotlight."

    This is why cherry picking is mocked. The cherry picked quote comes from an article that refutes her conspiracy theory. Click on the link to see for yourself. It is a short article.
     
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    Of course, nothing you ever post is true.

    Here....let's prove that.


    1. "PC depends on and expects readers to NOT check her sources. If the reader clicks on The Washington Monthly link they will discover an article that actually disputes her entire post."

    Far from the truth, I encourage education, something lost on your sort of fanatic ideologue.
    As proof of same, I always include the link and source....as you inadvertently showed in your post.




    2. I followed the first post, which discussed the Wirt story, with actual proof of the story...This:

    I included this authentication in that very post...post #620

    Six years after the Democrats on the select committee branded Wirt a liar, one of the members, Democrat John J. O'Connor (Democrat, NY) "confessed in a statement today that he had helped prevent a thorough investigation in 1934 of charges by the late Dr. William A. Wirt that a group of New Dealers were plotting a new American revolution....expressed belief that most of the latter's charges had come true.....there was a deliberately conceived plot among New Dealers to overthrow the established social order in this country and substitute a planned economy.":

    "O'Connor Admits Helping to Discredit Dr. Wirt," The Utica Observer-Dispatch, April 10, 1940.


    3. Now....why didn't you mention the Democrat John J. O'Connor confession......after all, it was included in the very same post?


    Could be that you are simply a Roosevelt boot-licker, and the truth of the Wirt story would prove everything I've said about Roosevelt and Stalin, and their 'special' relationship?

     
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    1. A footnote, and a significant one: Rexford Tugwell was appointed first as Assistant Secretary and then in 1934 as Undersecretary of the United States Department of Agriculture. The Department of Agriculture was filled the Stalinists.

    At a dinner party attended by members of the Department, William A. Wirt testified to Congress that members of the "Brain Trust" planned a revolution, to take over the country.
    Rexford Tugwell was the leader of the movement to take over the country and undermine the Constitution.
    St. Petersburg Times - Google News Archive Search


    a. WASHINGTON, April lft (#> —Standing on tiptoe in his earnestness, Dr. William A. Wirt today singled out' Rexford o. Tugwell, assistant secretary of agriculture, as the leader of a group that Wirt charges with plotting revolution. http://news2.nnyln.net/plattsburgh-...ress-1933-december-21-1934-june-09 - 0830.pdf


    2. Tugwell, a Roosevelt favorite, despised the Constitution.
    It is a fact that none of the New Dealers were constitutionalists. Roosevelt's economist, Rexford Tugwell said:

    "Any people who must be governed according to the written codes of an instrument which defines the spheres of individual and group, state and federal actions must expect to suffer from the constant maladjustment of progress. A life' which changes and a constitution for governance which does not must always raise questions which are difficult for solution."
    Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p.63

    3. Tugwell was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Francis Perkins the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described." Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew."
    The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system. p.47

    a. Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans.

    b. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union." p. 48
     
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    Lol, At least Roosevelts ideas made America strong which lead into the 50's and 60's having the biggest middle class on earth. Reagan screwed this up.
     
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    PC shows in each of his threads that Conservatives have never forgiven FDR to leading the United States to victory in WW2, for leading the United States out of the Depression and for giving Americans the GI Bill, Social Security, Unemployment insurance and bank depositers insurance.
     
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    True.

    And with each inane thread and post she reaffirms the genius of FDR, a president far superior to that of Reagan, and that after all these decades FDR is still able to get the best of republicans and conservatives.
     
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    The anti-FDRer's have their hands full. They have been searching for over eighty years to find something, anything evil about FDR, They have searched speeches, books anything that will counter the people's beliefs that lived during the FDR period, the very people that elected FDR four times in a row. Ironically the anti's got an amendment passed so that FDR will forever be the only president elected that many times. But it wasn't over, the historians in rating presidents added another insult and have never rated FDR less than third best president since 1948, and recently rated FDR America's greatest president.
     
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    FDR extended both the Depression and WWII, adding to the casualties in both.
     
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    "They have been searching for over eighty years to find something, anything evil about FDR, ..."

    Are you blind as well as dumb?

    I've shown dozens of examples of both malevolence and ineptitude.

    Resolve to stop lying in the New Year.
     
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    No, he didn't. You and some others have made that claim repeatedly and repeatedly been unable to make such a claim stand. It is nothing more than an opinion based on speculative and distorted data.

    Proponents of the "lengthened the depression" idea use data related to industry and ignore data related to the mass's. Students of the Great Depression know that FDR chose to support the public relief programs that reduced real unemployment and kept massive numbers of citizens housed, fed and trained for future employment. The private industry hated this and in many cases, it did hold back progress in the private sector. FDR was cutting out the middleman, i.e., private sector and put resource where it helped the most people.

    By 1940 the real unemployment figure was down to 9%, infrastructure had leaped ahead more than in any time in American history, much of which is still serving America 80 years later. In addition, as a bonus, FDR had quietly prepared the nation for war by developing modern aircraft, ships and other weapons and military hardware that greatly reduced casualties and the time needed to win WWII. By the time Congress finally took the coming war serious and provided funding, private industry had retooled or were in the process of retooling and it took only a little time to turn America into what became known as the "Arsenal of Freedom".
     
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