Roosevelt: His Bankrupt Policies

[PoliticalChic]

10. The man Roosevelt picked to direct the NRA effort was General Hugh Johnson, a profane, red-faced bully and professed admirer of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. ...There were ultimately more than 500 NRA codes, “ranging from the production of lightning rods to the manufacture of corsets and brassieres, covering more than 2 million employers and 22 million workers.”
“FDR’s Disputed Legacy,” Time, February 1, 1982, p. 30.



There were codes for the production of hair tonic, dog leashes, and even musical comedies. A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents.




11. Roosevelt's economic guru, Rex Tugwell was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Francis Perkins, U.S. Secretary of Laborfrom 1933 to 1945, the longest serving in that position, and thefirst womanappointed to theU.S. Cabinet, the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described."
Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew."

The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system.


a. Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans.



b. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington
until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48

 

[PoliticalChic]

It is more than interesting that under the first Progressive President, Woodrow Wilson, the United States was the first fascist nation.

And....under FDR....the same:


11. In “The Roosevelt Myth,” historian John T. Flynn describes how the NRA’s apparatchiks sometimes conducted “business:”


"...Only the most violent police methods could procure enforcement. In Sidney Hillman’s garment industry the code authority employed enforcement police. They roamed through the garment district like storm troopers. They could enter a man’s factory, send him out, line up his employees, subject them to minute interrogation, take over his books on the instant. Night work was forbidden.


Flying squadrons of these private coat-and-suit police went through the district at night, battering down doors with axes looking for men who were committing the crime of sewing together a pair of pants at night. But without these harsh methods many code authorities said there could be no compliance because the public was not back of it."
John T. Flynn, The Roosevelt Myth , p. 45



What's that Nazi-joke thing"

'You vil learn to obey orduzzzz'!!!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now...let's see....what would be a poor policy to that would work against improving a moribund economy....Hmmmm.....


Hey....how about tax hikes???





12. "Roosevelt next signed into law steep income tax increases on the higher brackets and introduced a 5 percent withholding tax on corporate dividends. He secured another tax increase in 1934. In fact, tax hikes became a favorite policy of Roosevelt for the next 10 years, culminating in a top income tax rate of 90 percent."
Reed, Op. Cit.


Sen. Arthur Vandenberg of Michigan, who opposed much of the New Deal, lambasted Roosevelt’s massive tax increases. A sound economy would not be restored, he said, by following the socialist notion that America could “lift the lower one-third up” by pulling “the upper two-thirds down.”
C. David Tompkins, Senator Arthur H. Vandenberg: The Evolution of a Modern Republican, 1884-1945, , p. 157


a. Vandenberg also condemned “the congressional surrender to alphabet commissars who deeply believe the American people need to be regimented by powerful overlords in order to be saved.”
Ibid.



"...powerful overlords..."

And those with no self-respect, and low self-esteem, continue to sing the praises of the Roosevelt regime.


13. I kinda like this description of the New Deal as “a nation-wide, State-managed mobilization of inane buffoonery and aimless commotion.”
Albert J. Nock, Our Enemy, the State (online at Barefoot s World nockoets1.html)

 

[Camp]

Kleptocrats, corporatist and fascist hate FDR. He crapped on their games just as they were getting started.
Does anyone know how many people are going to get electricity from the Grand Coulee Dam or drive through the Lincoln Tunnel this weekend?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Kleptocrats, corporatist and fascist hate FDR. He crapped on their games just as they were getting started.
Does anyone know how many people are going to get electricity from the Grand Coulee Dam or drive through the Lincoln Tunnel this weekend?

"Kleptocrats, corporatist and fascist hate FDR."
Really a stupid post in your attempt to shield Roosevelt.

Stalin hated Trotsky, Lenin hated Stalin.....
...but they were all Bolsheviks.



"...how many people are going to get electricity from the Grand Coulee Dam..."

Hitler was a great painter.
Two coats in an afternoon.


Roosevelt extended the Depression by years due to his economic policies.
And he extended WWII by years by following Stalin's orders.


You're a love-sick fool.
I hate to be the one to tell you....but Franklin Roosevelt passed away.


No worries....now you have Obama to worship.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You have yet to post "informed, factual, supported critique of the Roosevelt" presidency. But keep trying. This is a better OP than usual, though. A declarative statement instead of a loaded fallacy.

You might want to actually read the post before leaping to the defense of Stalin's sock puppet, FDR

She has not created a factual critique, Frank. Your silly comment is not factual either.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The malevolence is all yours, PC.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How can it be that the posts in this thread that scald Roosevelt for poor management of the economy go unchallenged, as in this thread...

.....yet the Liberal stenographers, the ones they call 'historians' praise him to the skies???



The leading academics find that the greatest modern Presidents are those that have made government bigger and more powerful, and have expanded the reach of the presidency, i.e., Woodrow Wilson and FDR. By the same token, those Presidents with a limited-government POV, such as Harding, Coolidge and Reagan, are treated dismissively by journalists and historians.


Liberals will always rate more liberal Presidents more highly than conservative Presidents, and since liberals dominate academia, it is no surprise that Liberal Democratic Presidents are more celebrated in the leading literature.



"Liberals have their pantheon of presidents, established by the New Deal historians. "Great presidents," in their view, are those who expand the size and scope of the federal government in the interest of the masses against the interests of the classes. By this criterion Franklin Roosevelt is one of the greatest presidents, in a line that includes Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt and Wilson.

Jackson believed in an extreme form of economic laissez-faire, and would have been aghast at FDR's public-works projects.
Lincoln was a Republican and, had he lived, this former railroad lawyer would surely have favored economic policies the New Dealers abhorred.

And history, we have learned in the past quarter-century, does not always move left. The masses sometimes decide that in their name you have expanded government too much and should pare it back." The Presidents - WSJ



The time will come when academics move closer to the truth, and Franklin Roosevelt will be seen as both the failure that he was, and the detriment to the values and designs of the Founders.

And the sycophants who swoon on his every deed.......woe betide ye.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The malevolence is all yours, PC.

You're so stupid I bet you think academia is a type of nut.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Since PC considers Arthur Schlesinger the foremost authority on FDR, let's cite his view of the Roosevelt 'failures':

The Hundred Days were only the start of a process that ended by transforming American society.

Who can now imagine a day when America offered no Social Security, no unemployment compensation, no food stamps, no Federal guarantee of bank deposits, no Federal supervision of the stock market, no Federal protection for collective bargaining, no Federal standards for wages and hours, no Federal support for farm prices or rural electrification, no Federal refinancing for farm and home mortgages, no Federal commitment to high employment or to equal opportunity - in short, no Federal responsibility for Americans who found themselves, through no fault of their own, in economic or social distress?

These social changes have won general approval. Even the Reagan counterrevolution, for all its 19th-century laissez-faire and Social Darwinist passions, shrinks from abolishing the framework of social protection -the ''safety nets'' - created by the New Deal.

The Hundred Days of F.D.R.

 

[Moonglow]

The malevolence is all yours, PC.

You're so stupid I bet you think academia is a type of nut.

If the human brain were so simple that we could understand, we would be so simple that we couldn’t…Emerson M. Pugh

 

[PoliticalChic]

Since PC considers Arthur Schlesinger the foremost authority on FDR, let's cite his view of the Roosevelt 'failures':

The Hundred Days were only the start of a process that ended by transforming American society.

Who can now imagine a day when America offered no Social Security, no unemployment compensation, no food stamps, no Federal guarantee of bank deposits, no Federal supervision of the stock market, no Federal protection for collective bargaining, no Federal standards for wages and hours, no Federal support for farm prices or rural electrification, no Federal refinancing for farm and home mortgages, no Federal commitment to high employment or to equal opportunity - in short, no Federal responsibility for Americans who found themselves, through no fault of their own, in economic or social distress?

These social changes have won general approval. Even the Reagan counterrevolution, for all its 19th-century laissez-faire and Social Darwinist passions, shrinks from abolishing the framework of social protection -the ''safety nets'' - created by the New Deal.

The Hundred Days of F.D.R.

So....as you have voluntarily subscribed to the thread, and, seemingly, feel the need to defend FDR.....

....one might wonder why you have been unable to find any errors in the numerous posts I've provided in support of the title.

Not one.


Are you this much of a failure in every endeavor in your life?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The malevolence is all yours, PC.

You're so stupid I bet you think academia is a type of nut.

If the human brain were so simple that we could understand, we would be so simple that we couldn’t…Emerson M. Pugh

Are you seeking an explanation for your inability to understand?

 

[PoliticalChic]

" Whole generations have been "educated" to believe that the Roosevelt administration is what got this country out of the Great Depression. History text books by famous scholars like Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., of Harvard and Henry Steele Commager of Columbia haveenshrined FDR as a historic savior of this country, and lesser lights in the media and elsewhere have perpetuated the legend."
Guess Who? by Thomas Sowell on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

 

[NYcarbineer]

Since PC considers Arthur Schlesinger the foremost authority on FDR, let's cite his view of the Roosevelt 'failures':

The Hundred Days were only the start of a process that ended by transforming American society.

Who can now imagine a day when America offered no Social Security, no unemployment compensation, no food stamps, no Federal guarantee of bank deposits, no Federal supervision of the stock market, no Federal protection for collective bargaining, no Federal standards for wages and hours, no Federal support for farm prices or rural electrification, no Federal refinancing for farm and home mortgages, no Federal commitment to high employment or to equal opportunity - in short, no Federal responsibility for Americans who found themselves, through no fault of their own, in economic or social distress?

These social changes have won general approval. Even the Reagan counterrevolution, for all its 19th-century laissez-faire and Social Darwinist passions, shrinks from abolishing the framework of social protection -the ''safety nets'' - created by the New Deal.

The Hundred Days of F.D.R.

So....as you have voluntarily subscribed to the thread, and, seemingly, feel the need to defend FDR.....

....one might wonder why you have been unable to find any errors in the numerous posts I've provided in support of the title.

Not one.


Are you this much of a failure in every endeavor in your life?

Refute what Schlesinger said, or shut up.

 

[Camp]

Kleptocrats, corporatist and fascist hate FDR. He crapped on their games just as they were getting started.
Does anyone know how many people are going to get electricity from the Grand Coulee Dam or drive through the Lincoln Tunnel this weekend?

"Kleptocrats, corporatist and fascist hate FDR."
Really a stupid post in your attempt to shield Roosevelt.

It is true. People thought they needed the wealthy made powerful by wealth to guide them through economic issues. FDR turned on his own kind, the privileged wealthy aristocrats. They hated him for joining with the "lower classes" of working people and common farmers. He brought them into a New Deal, where the so called "lower classes" were allowed to shape their own futures with the fruits of their labor.

Stalin hated Trotsky, Lenin hated Stalin.....
...but they were all Bolsheviks.

Who really cares which commies got along with which commies 100 years ago? Just a bunch of distracting trivia to deflect and muddy the waters.



"...how many people are going to get electricity from the Grand Coulee Dam..."

Hitler was a great painter.
Two coats in an afternoon.

You surely have no room to talk about other people making stupid post. FDR approved of and helped get a long list of Dams built by the so called "unemployed" as part of his New Deal. You like to spout off about unemployment when promoting the extended Depression nonsense. The people you list as unemployed and hence, a key element you use in your claim, were building things like the Coulee Dam along with many other Dams, and all manner of infrastructure that we continue to benefit from to this day. You definitely do not want to get into that discussion. I have well over a thousand links to FDR infrastructure accomplishments even if I only use the ones being used today.


Roosevelt extended the Depression by years due to his economic policies.
And he extended WWII by years by following Stalin's orders.


Answered above. He was loved by the country for the way he provided for the poor during the depression and created honest work. He was loved by those who fought and their families who awaited for them to come home. His skilled leadership reduced casualties and ended the war on a schedule that kept those casualties low. Stalin was FDR's bitch. He was manipulated into sacrifice of 10 million of his troops to soften the Nazi's for us. The casualty numbers fighting Nazi's tell who followed who.

You're a love-sick fool.
I hate to be the one to tell you....but Franklin Roosevelt passed away.

Yes, I know, I have been to three of his Memorials. Most Presidents get only one. For some reason FDR ended up with three. He needs one more to match the number of times us silly Americans elected him to lead us as President.
.

 

[NYcarbineer]

" Whole generations have been "educated" to believe that the Roosevelt administration is what got this country out of the Great Depression. History text books by famous scholars like Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., of Harvard and Henry Steele Commager of Columbia haveenshrined FDR as a historic savior of this country, and lesser lights in the media and elsewhere have perpetuated the legend."
Guess Who? by Thomas Sowell on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

The 30's recession ended in 1933. The same year FDR was elected. There was one brief pullback around '37.

As you can see by the graph:

 

[PoliticalChic]

Since PC considers Arthur Schlesinger the foremost authority on FDR, let's cite his view of the Roosevelt 'failures':

The Hundred Days were only the start of a process that ended by transforming American society.

Who can now imagine a day when America offered no Social Security, no unemployment compensation, no food stamps, no Federal guarantee of bank deposits, no Federal supervision of the stock market, no Federal protection for collective bargaining, no Federal standards for wages and hours, no Federal support for farm prices or rural electrification, no Federal refinancing for farm and home mortgages, no Federal commitment to high employment or to equal opportunity - in short, no Federal responsibility for Americans who found themselves, through no fault of their own, in economic or social distress?

These social changes have won general approval. Even the Reagan counterrevolution, for all its 19th-century laissez-faire and Social Darwinist passions, shrinks from abolishing the framework of social protection -the ''safety nets'' - created by the New Deal.

The Hundred Days of F.D.R.

So....as you have voluntarily subscribed to the thread, and, seemingly, feel the need to defend FDR.....

....one might wonder why you have been unable to find any errors in the numerous posts I've provided in support of the title.

Not one.


Are you this much of a failure in every endeavor in your life?

Refute what Schlesinger said, or shut up.

Oooooo....

Appears I've hit a nerve with "Are you this much of a failure in every endeavor in your life?"

Seems you've answered in the affirmative.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ronald Reagan, the conservative god,

saved Social Security, expanded Medicare, and expanded Medicaid.

That is how FDR, JFK, LBJ, and liberalism won the war...

...by getting the enemy to fight on their side.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Since PC considers Arthur Schlesinger the foremost authority on FDR, let's cite his view of the Roosevelt 'failures':

The Hundred Days were only the start of a process that ended by transforming American society.

Who can now imagine a day when America offered no Social Security, no unemployment compensation, no food stamps, no Federal guarantee of bank deposits, no Federal supervision of the stock market, no Federal protection for collective bargaining, no Federal standards for wages and hours, no Federal support for farm prices or rural electrification, no Federal refinancing for farm and home mortgages, no Federal commitment to high employment or to equal opportunity - in short, no Federal responsibility for Americans who found themselves, through no fault of their own, in economic or social distress?

These social changes have won general approval. Even the Reagan counterrevolution, for all its 19th-century laissez-faire and Social Darwinist passions, shrinks from abolishing the framework of social protection -the ''safety nets'' - created by the New Deal.

The Hundred Days of F.D.R.

So....as you have voluntarily subscribed to the thread, and, seemingly, feel the need to defend FDR.....

....one might wonder why you have been unable to find any errors in the numerous posts I've provided in support of the title.

Not one.


Are you this much of a failure in every endeavor in your life?

Refute what Schlesinger said, or shut up.

Oooooo....

Appears I've hit a nerve with "Are you this much of a failure in every endeavor in your life?"

Seems you've answered in the affirmative.

Okay so you can't refute what Schlesinger said. He proves you wrong. Case closed.