Romney deliberately lost election

[mudwhistle]

[

Why don't you give me a quote showing that Romney only wanted the support of whites.

How about, "No one has ever had to ask Ann and I where we were born!"That's a direct slap in the face of all people of color. Not to mention embracing Trump and Limbaugh and all the other insane crap they said.

[

I mean, do you honestly want to claim that the character assassination that was going on, claiming that Romney murdered a steelworker's wife, wasn't simply a tried and tested exercise in demonizing the opponent when you know that your candidate sucks to high Heaven.

No, it was addressing Romney's rationale for running. He was not running on what a great governor he was. He was running on how he was an awesome businessman and how he would run government like a business.

That Steelworker was a victim of Romney's business practices. His plant was looted for every ounce of equity and he and his co-workers were thrown out on the street without health insurance or pensions. As a result, his wife didn't have coverage when she got cancer. It's a valid discussion.

Blacks and Hispanics make up a grand total of maybe 20% of the total Democrat base. Fact is Obama had to fudge the numbers to get over the top. He had fewer votes than Gore or Bush yet he still won.

That's not true, either.

Obama got 65,446,032 in 2012
He got 69,297,997 in 2008

Bush got 62,039,073 in 2004 and only 50,456,062 in 2000.

Al Gore got 50,996,582 in 2000.

Now, if saying there was ballot box stuffing or whatever helps you sleep better at night, that's fine.

The simpler explanation is that the GOP has alienated minorities, women, working folks and people who want their government to work right, and nothing you are doing now is fixing THOSE problems.

Assuming Romneys statement about citizenship is racist is quite à stretch even for you.

It's clear that what is needed in a poor economy is a leader with good business sensé, not some anti-business ideologue.

The claims by the steelworker were so obviously false that the Obama campaign tried to claim innocence even though they were caught red-handed.

Obama had fewer votes this time then 08' because his support was eroding. He supplemented his lack of support by manufacturing votes with month long early voting, vote-farming, same day registration, hacking into computer voting machines, and depressing GOP voters by ignoring votes, disqualifying votes, losing and destroying military ballots, fighting new voter ID laws in some states. In states that these shenanigans took place he lost 63-37%. In states where these irregularity were reported he won. Some Obama voters admitted to voting several times.

The GOP hasn't alienated anyone. Democrats have done it for them. The Tea Party is a prime example.

 

[mudwhistle]

[

Why don't you give me a quote showing that Romney only wanted the support of whites.

How about, "No one has ever had to ask Ann and I where we were born!"That's a direct slap in the face of all people of color. Not to mention embracing Trump and Limbaugh and all the other insane crap they said.





No, it was addressing Romney's rationale for running. He was not running on what a great governor he was. He was running on how he was an awesome businessman and how he would run government like a business.

That Steelworker was a victim of Romney's business practices. His plant was looted for every ounce of equity and he and his co-workers were thrown out on the street without health insurance or pensions. As a result, his wife didn't have coverage when she got cancer. It's a valid discussion.

Blacks and Hispanics make up a grand total of maybe 20% of the total Democrat base. Fact is Obama had to fudge the numbers to get over the top. He had fewer votes than Gore or Bush yet he still won.

That's not true, either.

Obama got 65,446,032 in 2012
He got 69,297,997 in 2008

Bush got 62,039,073 in 2004 and only 50,456,062 in 2000.

Al Gore got 50,996,582 in 2000.

Now, if saying there was ballot box stuffing or whatever helps you sleep better at night, that's fine.

The simpler explanation is that the GOP has alienated minorities, women, working folks and people who want their government to work right, and nothing you are doing now is fixing THOSE problems.

Assuming Romneys statement about citizenship is racist is quite à stretch even for you.

It's clear that what is needed in a poor economy is a leader with good business sensé, not some anti-business ideolog.

Thé claims by thé steelworker were so obviously false that the Obama campaign tried to claim innocence even though they were caught Ted-handed.

Obama had fewer votes this time then 08' because his support was erroding. He supplimented his lack of support by manufacturing votes with month long early voting, vote-farming, same day registration, hacking into computer voting machines, and depressing GOP voters by ignoring votes, disqualifying votes, losing and destroying military ballots, fighting new voter ID laws in some states. In states that thèse shenanigans didn't take place he lost 63-37%. In states where these irrégularités were reported he won. Some Obama voters admitted to voting several times.

Thé GOP hasn't alienated anyone. Democrats have done it for them. Thé Tea Party is a primé example.

 

[Sarah G]

No, not deliberately. He was slapped around like the proverbial red headed ... well, he got beaten up by Obama.

 

[dblack]

Romney deliberately lost election to protect insurance companies and Romney/Obama care

the 2-party system is a fraud

He was nominated to ensure that opposition to ACA would have no option.

 

[mudwhistle]

No, not deliberately. He was slapped around like the proverbial red headed ... well, he got beaten up by Obama.

Sort of thé way Romney humiliated Obama in thé first debate.

It was brutal.

 

[mudwhistle]

No, not deliberately. He was slapped around like the proverbial red headed ... well, he got beaten up by Obama.

Sort of thé way Romney humiliated Obama in thé first debate?

It was brutal.

 

[mudwhistle]

Romney could have destroyed that stuttering prick in thé last debate. He chose instead to play it safe. You see establishment Repugs are à bit cowed to accusations of racism regardless how invalid they are.

 

[MisterBeale]

Assuming Romneys statement about citizenship is racist is quite à stretch even for you.

It's clear that what is needed in a poor economy is a leader with good business sensé, not some anti-business ideolog.

Thé claims by thé steelworker were so obviously false that the Obama campaign tried to claim innocence even though they were caught Ted-handed.

Obama had fewer votes this time then 08' because his support was erroding. He supplimented his lack of support by manufacturing votes with month long early voting, vote-farming, same day registration, hacking into computer voting machines, and depressing GOP voters by ignoring votes, disqualifying votes, losing and destroying military ballots, fighting new voter ID laws in some states. In states that thèse shenanigans took place he lost 63-37%. In states where these irrégularités were reported he won. Some Obama voters admitted to voting several times.

Thé GOP hasn't alienated anyone. Democrats have done it for them. Thé Tea Party is a primé example.

Ha ha, you bring up some really good facts. I never even really thought that he had a chance. Romney came a lot closer to winning than several of my friends ever thought he was supposed to come. Most of them are pretty hard core Libertarians and Anarchic-Capitalists. They either vote third party or don't vote. I think secretly, they were a little let down by how close he came, even though outwardly they claimed not to give a shit since there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the two.

I felt, as the OP posted, that Romney was decoy, a stooge, that he was put in there as a token so that Obama would be a shoe in. Yet even with that there, it looked for a while that he might actually win! That is how many people were actually coming out to vote against the president, this post was excellent, and truthful, for people who were paying attention to the corruption that the elites do engineer in the system to get who they want in power.

With the astounding victory that Obama had in '08, his performance was tragic and dismal in '12. Nobody really gave a shit about him this time around. Everyone knows he is the biggest lying piece of shit. I remember seeing this video, and I just about died laughing. What pathetic piece of propaganda. When you need to have little children use profane language to motivate your base to go out and caste a vote, you know you have sunk low and are very desperate. I am sure this wasn't targeted at the Christian base of the Democratic party. At the very end of the video, check out who funded this train wreck of an ad.

This is how desperate they were to get the people that had formerly voted for Obama to come out and vote for him again. And in the end, none of them did.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOobBean3w]Samuel L Jackson Wake The F*ck UP Pro-Obama Ad 2012 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[mudwhistle]

Yup yup

 

[dcraelin]

Obama had fewer votes this time then 08' because his support was erroding. He supplimented his lack of support by manufacturing votes with month long early voting, vote-farming, same day registration, hacking into computer voting machines, and depressing GOP voters by ignoring votes, disqualifying votes, losing and destroying military ballots, fighting new voter ID laws in some states. In states that thèse shenanigans didn't take place he lost 63-37%. In states where these irrégularités were reported he won. Some Obama voters admitted to voting several times.

I think there may have been voting irregularities and that they were targeted at 3rd parties. The libertarians were fired up after RonPaul was basically robbed in Iowa and Maine. The Greens were also fired up and had a terrific candidate in Jill Stein a doctor who opposed the ACA. Even the Constitution party with Goode was threatening disruption in Virginia.

Romney deliberately lost election to protect insurance companies and Romney/Obama care

the 2-party system is a fraud

He was nominated to ensure that opposition to ACA would have no option.

exactly right

I felt, as the OP posted, that Romney was decoy, a stooge, that he was put in there as a token so that Obama would be a shoe in. Yet even with that there, it looked for a while that he might actually win! That is how many people were actually coming out to vote against the president, this post was excellent, and truthful, for people who were paying attention to the corruption that the elites do engineer in the system to get who they want in power.

I remember seeing this video, and I just about died laughing. What pathetic piece of propaganda. When you need to have little children use profane language to motivate your base to go out and caste a vote, you know you have sunk low and are very desperate. I am sure this wasn't targeted at the Christian base of the Democratic party. At the very end of the video, check out who funded this train wreck of an ad.

Samuel L Jackson Wake The F*ck UP Pro-Obama Ad 2012 - YouTube

noticed at around 2minute mark Jackson says Romney will send jobs overseas....Obama is now working on the TPP and other so-called "free trade" deals that will do more of that, selling out his base.

 

[JoeB131]

Assuming Romneys statement about citizenship is racist is quite à stretch even for you.

NO, Birtherism is racism. Not even a debatable point. And Romney appealling to it for votes was a low point of his campaign.

It's clear that what is needed in a poor economy is a leader with good business sensé, not some anti-business ideologue.

Guy, you obviously haven't worked in the private sector. The LAST people I'd want anywhere near the government are business types.

Our only two businessmen Presidents? Herbert Hoover and George W. Bush. Nuff said.

The claims by the steelworker were so obviously false that the Obama campaign tried to claim innocence even though they were caught red-handed.

What specifically wasn't true? Did Romney buy GS Steel? Yes. Did Bain run it into bankruptcy? Yes. Did Joe Soptic's wife die due to a lack of medical coverage. Yes.

Obama had fewer votes this time then 08' because his support was eroding. He supplemented his lack of support by manufacturing votes with month long early voting, vote-farming, same day registration, hacking into computer voting machines, and depressing GOP voters by ignoring votes, disqualifying votes, losing and destroying military ballots, fighting new voter ID laws in some states. In states that these shenanigans took place he lost 63-37%. In states where these irregularity were reported he won. Some Obama voters admitted to voting several times.

The GOP hasn't alienated anyone. Democrats have done it for them. The Tea Party is a prime example.

And now you are deep in the conspiracy weeds.

Obama got less votes because folks in states were there wasn't a contest stayed home. No reason for them to come out, their states weren't in play.

In the 10 or so swing states, voter participation was up, and Obama won all of them except NC.

 

[dcraelin]

Empire of the Senseless » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

A Lethal Competence
Empire of the Senseless
by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR

.....................
"This brazen act was soon followed by Obama’s announcement that he had picked Jeffrey Zients to head the National Economic Council. Who is Zients you ask? Well, he was a top executive at Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital, plotting takeovers, mass firings, raids on pensions and de-unionization of factories. He did so well at this grim job that his net worth now tops $100 million. One might view this appointment as an act of casual sadism, rubbing salt in the wounds of progressives. But the Left is so moribund, so deeply immured in a political coma that the insult didn’t even prompt the slightest protest, not even a vestigial yelp for old time’s sake."

 

[JoeB131]

Empire of the Senseless » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

A Lethal Competence
Empire of the Senseless
by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR

.....................
"This brazen act was soon followed by Obama’s announcement that he had picked Jeffrey Zients to head the National Economic Council. Who is Zients you ask? Well, he was a top executive at Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital, plotting takeovers, mass firings, raids on pensions and de-unionization of factories. He did so well at this grim job that his net worth now tops $100 million. One might view this appointment as an act of casual sadism, rubbing salt in the wounds of progressives. But the Left is so moribund, so deeply immured in a political coma that the insult didn’t even prompt the slightest protest, not even a vestigial yelp for old time’s sake."

Okay, so this proves, what, exactly? I mean other than you need to get your meds adjusted.

 

[dcraelin]

you need to get your meds adjusted.

ahuh ahuh ahuh, Joeby made a funny

 

[dcraelin]

the afformentioned Jeffrey Zients was the object of a story in the WSJ today about all the different roles hes played in the Obama administration. Now hes being put in charge of fixing the Romneycare website...

 

[JoeB131]

the afformentioned Jeffrey Zients was the object of a story in the WSJ today about all the different roles hes played in the Obama administration. Now hes being put in charge of fixing the Romneycare website...

I'm sorry, are you still off your meds?

 

[mudwhistle]

Romney deliberately lost election to protect insurance companies and Romney/Obama care

the 2-party system is a fraud

Why not? What did he have to lose? He sure had a lot to gain, eh?

Bain Capital Owns Clear Channel (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Etc.)

http://www.westernjournalism.com/bain-capital-owns-clear-channel-rush-limbaugh-sean-hannity-glenn-beck-michael-savage-etc/

Clear Channel owns more radio stations (850) than anyone else in the United States. They also own Premiere Radio Networks, the company that syndicates the radio shows of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck, among others. Needless to say, Clear Channel basically owns conservative talk radio in the United States. So who owns Clear Channel? Well, it turns out that Bain Capital is one of the primary owners of Clear Channel. Yes, you read that correctly. The company that Mitt Romney ran for so long is one of the “big bosses” over virtually all conservative talk radio in America. Of course Mitt Romney is not running Bain Capital anymore. He is a “retired partner”, but he still has a huge financial stake in Bain Capital. We’re talking about millions upon millions of dollars. If you doubt this, just check out page 34 of this public financial disclosure report.

So let's put on our big boy thinking caps and follow the money shall we? Do these conservative talk radio stations have more listeners, and hence more ad revenue with a progressive president, or a "conservative" president? Would this investment have made him more money if he had won or lost?

Right, that doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out.

Another thing to point out is both Romney's "religion", and the POTUS's "religion." (As if either gives a shit about their soul or eternity or any that crap.) OF course they are both radically different, however, one has been known, because of it's regimented organization, to have been infiltrated by the Jesuits. And well, Liberation Theology may not have been founded Jesuits, but rather by a Dominican? Franciscan? Benedictine? that was traveling with Christopher Columbus when he "discovered" the new world. However, that is just it's ancient roots. More commonly, it is known as for it's Jesuit origins, for they are the ones that took up the mantle as a useful tool for societal engineering and control.

What Do Bill de Blasio and Pope Francis Have in Common?
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114817/what-do-bill-de-blasio-and-pope-francis-have-common

Liberation theology, a movement that began in Latin America in the 1950s and '60s in reaction to extreme inequality there, happened to be in the news already, thanks to Pope Francis, who recently met with one of the movement's leaders at the Vatican — something his predecessor would not have done. Pope Francis has made waves for his recent remarks urging the church to back off an obsessive focus on homosexuality, abortion, and birth control, and to instead focus on serving the poor. It's a focus that the South American Catholic Church, out of which Francis comes, has had for years, thanks to the massive influence of liberation theology. Pope Francis has been extremely careful to make it clear that he doesn't ascribe to the more hardline, Marxist version of liberation theology, that of Father Gustavo Gutierrez. He is merely sympathetic to the viewpoint — which means a lot, clearly, in real practical terms about how he organizes the priorities of the Church.

Funny how the last Pope stepped down right after the "Anointed One" got elected to his next term in office. Mind you, THE FIRST JESUIT POPE IN HISTORY! Will there be a financial crises of unrivaled proportions necessitating that the POTUS use his emergency powers and cancel the next Presidential election? My god man, can you imagine how much $$$ Romney's stations would make then !!!!

It is still the influences and contacts with people that were and are oppressed that led and still lead the Jesuits to the belief by Rome that it was and is their duty to control and rule the world. This whether people want their minds, souls and freedom taken from them or not. This belief is echoed in the poor and middle class neighborhoods throughout the world. It matters not who they use to accomplish their goals. Mormons? Fine. Masons? Just as good. Zionists? They'll fit the bill nicely. Commie's in China wiping out the so called corporatists in America by dumping Treasuries? That works. Lately the atheists have been a fine and handy tool, as well as those pesky "Terrorists" created by D.C.'s own self-proclaimed Lusifarians who think they have only as much control as the leash they are allowed to hang themselves by.

Oh, and let's not forget one last group. The last group is the bulk of America. The ones who drink entirely too much fluoridated water and have their critical thinking skills compromised. The ones who believe there is a dimes worth of difference between the choices in political candidates we are given and that the choice in policy that the controlled media give us are what is all we have to choose from.

Yeah, how's that for a conspiracy theory?



"It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country, the United States of America are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated MOST of the wars of Europe."

~Marquis de LaFayette (1757-1834; French statesman and general who served in under the command of GeneralGeorge Washington during the American Revolutionary War)



President Lincoln told Catholic priest, Charles Chiniquy (whom as a lawyer, Lincoln had defended against the Catholic Church; defeated them, revealed great scandal in the Chicago diocese, which led the Vatican and its military intelligence/assassins [the Jesuits] to become Lincoln's mortal enemy!) Abraham Lincoln's views on the Jesuits:

"So many plots have already been made against my life, that it is a real miracle that they have all failed ... But can we expect that God will make a perpetual miracle to save my life? I believe not. The Jesuits are so expert in those deeds of blood that Henry IV (king of France who was assassinated by the Jesuit Revaillac for giving liberty to his people,) said that it was impossible to escape them, and he became their victim, though he did all he could to protect himself. My escape from their hands, since the letter of the Pope to Jeff Davis has sharpened a million of daggers to pierce my breast, would be more that a miracle. I know that Jesuits never forget nor forsake (never give up). Man must not care how and where he dies, provided he dies at the post of honor and duty."

John Wilkes Booth was a Democrat.

 

[MisterBeale]

John Wilkes Booth was a Democrat.

At the time he assassinated Lincoln, he had converted to Catholicism, and was a Jesuit seminarian.

You can drive past old Bryantown Tavern, where Booth met with Confederate agents before the assassination; St. Mary's Catholic Church, where Mudd is buried and where he first met Booth in 1864; the Zekiah swamp, which the fugitives entered; and Rich Hill, the former home of wealthy Samuel Cox, who sent provisions to Booth and Herold when they hid in a nearby thicket for several days. (Booth and Herold got rid of their horses at the thicket, fearing the animals would hasten their detection by the federal cavalry.)

By obtaining permission, you can enter property now privately owned by a Jesuit retreat and drive past Huckleberry Cottage, former home of Confederate agent Thomas A. Jones; and you can park near the retreat's bluffs along the Potomac River, which Booth and Herold crossed in a rowboat owned by Jones. The view from the bluffs and across the Potomac is beautiful and dramatic. Here the river is about two miles wide, making one realize how desperate Booth and Herold must have been to cross at night with federal gunboats in the area.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/tours/civilwar/booth.htm

 

[dcraelin]

another Bain partner or employee is an on and off guest of the corporate Democratic party's MSNBC, a Conard? I think his name is. Also found this article MSNBC?s Schultz Finally Discloses Three-Year Old NBC-Bain Capital Partnership [Video] that talks about the Channels connections with Bain

 

[dcraelin]

perhaps it was a transactional relationship. The money behind Obama hired Bain for Romney's acting ability. I think I remember during campaign that Romney was still being paid by Bain even tho he supposedly no longer worked there.