Romans 13, in full content.

[Penelope]

Romans 13 New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
Chapter 13
Obedience to Authority. 1 Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God.2 Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear to good conduct, but to evil. Do you wish to have no fear of authority? Then do what is good and you will receive approval from it, for it is a servant of God for your good. But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword without purpose; it is the servant of God to inflict wrath on the evildoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to be subject not only because of the wrath but also because of conscience. 6 This is why you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. 7 Pay to all their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, toll to whom toll is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.

Love Fulfills the Law.8 Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery; you shall not kill; you shall not steal; you shall not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this saying, [namely] “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no evil to the neighbor; hence, love is the fulfillment of the law.

Awareness of the End of Time. 11 And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed;I 12 the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then throw off the works of darkness [and] put on the armor of light; 13 let us conduct ourselves properly as in the daynot in orgies and drunkenness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and jealousy 14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the desires of the flesh.

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How dare Sessions to take a verse out of context, and perhaps Trump is not a mistake, we never know evil till it rears its ulgy head and vices.

 

[rightwinger]

Conservatives claim it means government can do anything they want

 

[BULLDOG]

Conservatives claim it means government can do anything they want

In that case, Mueller's investigation would be ordained of God. Why is Trump trying to stop God's will?

 

[Meriweather]

Conservatives claim it means government can do anything they want

Actually, no. Government is under a higher authority.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump is subject to the law. He is subject to Mueller until Mueller or Rosenstein says differently.

 

[Picaro]

It's a Catholic 'translation', and given the make up of the Vatican and the politics of the Current Pope, I would avoid using it, and stay with some of the older ones, pre-1980 ones preferably, same for Koran translations.

Another past translation controversy here:

Wycliffe Bible Translators Moves Past 'Divine Familial' Controversy; Waits for Review (Pt. 1)

.... in three parts.


"Hersman added that there are very few cases in the Bible where the common words used in the case of Muslim-related language groups has a connotation of a biological relationship between God and Mary to produce a baby Jesus, in one of the more controversial instances.

"Well, we know of course that's not what God is trying to communicate in that. In those situations our translators are trying to find what another word for son that still carries that meaning of father-son relationship, but doesn't carry the biological connotation," he said.

Wycliffe came under heavy criticism when Biblical Missiology created an online petition alleging that the translation group had eliminated familial terms describing God and Jesus in certain Arabic and Bengali translations of the Bible so as not to offend Muslim readers. Biblical Missiology, a network of missionaries, linguists, theologians and global pastors, demanded that Wycliffe stop replacing phrases such as "Son of God" with "Messiah of God" or "God the Father" with "guardian."

Included in the controversy is the removal of any references to God as "Father," to Jesus as the "Son" or "the Son of God." One example of such a change can be seen in an Arabic version of the Gospel of Matthew produced and promoted by Frontiers and SIL. It changes Matthew 28:19 from this: "baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit," to this: "cleanse them by water in the name of Allah, his Messiah and his Holy Spirit."

Hersman told CP that because of the controversy and Wycliffe's commitment to accuracy, they have allowed their translation practices to come under review by World Evangelical Alliance. The alliance has a panel of 13 members from different denominations and continents who met in November and will meet again in April for a final time."

IT's easy, just quit trying to make the book 'politically correct', stop sniveling about 'what will Amed think???", stop caring if the language isn't 'gender neutral n stuff', just translate the thing already.

 

[Picaro]

Conservatives claim it means government can do anything they want

Actually, no. Government is under a higher authority.

Yes, that's what the passage says, and the rest of the chapter accentuates it.

 

[Picaro]

Trump is subject to the law. He is subject to Mueller until Mueller or Rosenstein says differently.

lol no he isn't subject to Meuller; that's retarded even for you.

 

[zaangalewa]

… Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God.

Today that's sometimes wrong.

Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves. …

Those who do not resist in the authority of godless people (not all unbelievers are godless and not everyone, who speaks in the name of god, is not godless) will bring judgement on themselves too. Fight the good fight - the fight for all and every life - not the fight for leading criminals. Their bad will is no excuse.

 

[Picaro]

Considering how many Christians died from persecutions resisting government demands, it's safe to say that a lot of people interpret the verses very wrong. Guess they'll just have to actually study the book instead of the usual idiocy of citing verses as if they're all unrelated to any verses around them and the books are just lists of unrelated proverbs or something. That really sucks for all those neurotic deviants and sociopaths who think they can just make up whatever meanings they feel like, though.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump is subject to the law. He is subject to Mueller until Mueller or Rosenstein says differently.

lol no he isn't subject to Meuller; that's retarded even for you.

Trump is subject to the law, and the law empowers Rosenstein and Mueller to do things Trump does not like: stupid to suggest that is not so. Yeah, Trump is subject.

 

[Picaro]

Trump is subject to the law. He is subject to Mueller until Mueller or Rosenstein says differently.

lol no he isn't subject to Meuller; that's retarded even for you.

Trump is subject to the law, and the law empowers Rosenstein and Mueller to do things Trump does not like: stupid to suggest that is not so. Yeah, Trump is subject.

lol rubbish. Only Congress can impeach and touch him, Jake, too bad for your fake news spree here. Meuller has squat, already admitted that, and we all know they never did. Go back to the Hive and try some other silly fake news gimmick.

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump is subject to the law. He is subject to Mueller until Mueller or Rosenstein says differently.

lol no he isn't subject to Meuller; that's retarded even for you.

Trump is subject to the law, and the law empowers Rosenstein and Mueller to do things Trump does not like: stupid to suggest that is not so. Yeah, Trump is subject.

lol rubbish. Only Congress can impeach and touch him, Jake, too bad for your fake news spree here. Meuller has squat, already admitted that, and we all know they never did. Go back to the Hive and try some other silly fake news gimmick.

What makes you think Mueller has nothing? Because that's what Trump said?

 

[BlackSand]

Romans 13 New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
Chapter 13
Obedience to Authority. 1 Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God.2 Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear to good conduct, but to evil. Do you wish to have no fear of authority? Then do what is good and you will receive approval from it, for it is a servant of God for your good. But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword without purpose; it is the servant of God to inflict wrath on the evildoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to be subject not only because of the wrath but also because of conscience. 6 This is why you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. 7 Pay to all their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, toll to whom toll is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.

Love Fulfills the Law.8 Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery; you shall not kill; you shall not steal; you shall not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this saying, [namely] “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no evil to the neighbor; hence, love is the fulfillment of the law.

Awareness of the End of Time. 11 And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed;I 12 the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then throw off the works of darkness [and] put on the armor of light; 13 let us conduct ourselves properly as in the daynot in orgies and drunkenness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and jealousy 14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the desires of the flesh.

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How dare Sessions to take a verse out of context, and perhaps Trump is not a mistake, we never know evil till it rears its ulgy head and vices.

What is the Book of Romans?
Who wrote the Book of Romans?
Who was the person who wrote the Book of Romans talking to and why?

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[Crepitus]

Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God.2 Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed,

Wow, that's pretty wide open. According to that no authority should ever be opposed. None. No matter what.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Trump is subject to the law. He is subject to Mueller until Mueller or Rosenstein says differently.

Nobody's "subject" to a government investigative body you nitwit.

 

[BULLDOG]

Romans 13 New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
Chapter 13
Obedience to Authority. 1 Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God.2 Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear to good conduct, but to evil. Do you wish to have no fear of authority? Then do what is good and you will receive approval from it, for it is a servant of God for your good. But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword without purpose; it is the servant of God to inflict wrath on the evildoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to be subject not only because of the wrath but also because of conscience. 6 This is why you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. 7 Pay to all their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, toll to whom toll is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.

Love Fulfills the Law.8 Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery; you shall not kill; you shall not steal; you shall not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this saying, [namely] “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no evil to the neighbor; hence, love is the fulfillment of the law.

Awareness of the End of Time. 11 And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed;I 12 the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then throw off the works of darkness [and] put on the armor of light; 13 let us conduct ourselves properly as in the daynot in orgies and drunkenness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and jealousy 14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the desires of the flesh.

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How dare Sessions to take a verse out of context, and perhaps Trump is not a mistake, we never know evil till it rears its ulgy head and vices.

What is the Book of Romans?
Who wrote the Book of Romans?
Who was the person who wrote the Book of Romans talking to and why?

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Paul wrote it to the Romans, describing his particular brand of Christianity. Some of his statements were the exact opposite of what Jesus had taught. Paul even called it his gospel instead of the gospel of Jesus and/or the 12 disciples.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Legal concoctions of modern men who compose government are very, very, seldom Lawful when judged morally.

 

[BlackSand]

Paul wrote it to the Romans, describing his particular brand of Christianity. Some of his statements were the exact opposite of what Jesus had taught. Paul even called it his gospel instead of the gospel of Jesus and/or the 12 disciples.

That's correct as far as who wrote the Book of Romans and what the Book of Romans is (Paul's letters to the Romans).
I can assume you know who he was actually writing the letters to and why.

It's true the context of the letters and Paul's desires can shed some light on how the content of a verse pulled from the letters ...
May not accurately represent the entire picture.

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[BULLDOG]

Paul wrote it to the Romans, describing his particular brand of Christianity. Some of his statements were the exact opposite of what Jesus had taught. Paul even called it his gospel instead of the gospel of Jesus and/or the 12 disciples.

That's correct as far as who wrote the Book of Romans and what the Book of Romans is (Paul's letters to the Romans).
I can assume you know who he was actually writing the letters to and why.

It's true the context of the letters and Paul's desires can shed some light on how the content of a verse pulled from the letters ...
May not accurately represent the entire picture.

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A direct contradiction with Jesus's teachings has nothing to do with context. The teachings are the same, or they aren't. I'm not talking about a different placement of a comma. I;m talking about directly opposite statements.