'Right Wing Extremist' speaker withdraws from West Point event after protests

[bodecea]

The Qu'ran encourages Muslims to lie to infidels if it advances the cause of Islam. You know that, don't you?

And did you know that Christians lie left and right despite the 10 Commandments?

Perhaps, but the Bible doesn't tell them to lie to non-Christians. You even noted that they lie DESPITE the 10 Commandments, not because of the 10 Commandments

Religious law sure doesn't seem to be stopping them much, does it?

 

[bodecea]

Whatever happened to freedom of speech in the US?

Here is someone who DID bring it up, Conservative.

 

[bodecea]

Whatever happened to freedom of speech in the US?

only for liberals.

And where you "seem" to chime in on the subject.

 

[Conservative]

Whatever happened to freedom of speech in the US?

Here is someone who DID bring it up, Conservative.

Says California Girl.. not Conservative, up there.

Need glasses? Walmart is cheap, and mine does a decent job, even with progressive lenses.

 

[Conservative]

Whatever happened to freedom of speech in the US?

only for liberals.

And where you "seem" to chime in on the subject.

general comment. But by all means, project.

 

[Lakhota]

Oops, wrong thread.

 

[Seawytch]

As a Catholic, yes, I would be. Supporting freedom of speech is easy when you agree with what's being said. It is when it is hard that counts.

Personally, I may not like what you have to say, but I will defend, with my life, your right to say it. Shame on you that you won't do likewise.

I swore an oath to defend it you douchnozzle. Did you?

The defenders of free speech shouldn't be inviting the fox into the hen house. Our military is a place for all qualified Americans and Muslim students at West Point should not be subject to an Islamaphobe anymore than Christian students should be subject to speeches from a Christianaphobe. Keep you phobias on the blogs, don't invite them to speak at West Point.

You pontificate about the First Amendment, and then you immediately claim certain points of view aren't permissible.

What kind of moron are you?

The kind that knows you can't yell "fire" in a theater.

You don't invite someone to speak before our nation's military that uses hate speech against a segment of that military. We do have Muslims serving.

His 1st amendment rights were not violated.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The Qu'ran encourages Muslims to lie to infidels if it advances the cause of Islam. You know that, don't you?

Would you please link chapter and verse where the Quran encourages Muslims to lie?

read the thread...

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/205901-right-wing-extremist-speaker-withdraws-from-west-point-event-after-protests-2.html#post4744037

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.

Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"

Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

So, there's nothing in the Qur'an that says Muslims can lie to promote Islam - just your "interpretation".

(Or perhaps it's not your interpretation, but Pamela Geller's)

 

[bripat9643]

You pontificate about the First Amendment, and then you immediately claim certain points of view aren't permissible.

What kind of moron are you?

The kind that knows you can't yell "fire" in a theater.

You don't invite someone to speak before our nation's military that uses hate speech against a segment of that military. We do have Muslims serving.

His 1st amendment rights were not violated.

If Klansmen were serving in the military, would that mean we shouldn't allow anyone who opposes racism to speak at West Point?

 

[Seawytch]

You pontificate about the First Amendment, and then you immediately claim certain points of view aren't permissible.

What kind of moron are you?

The kind that knows you can't yell "fire" in a theater.

You don't invite someone to speak before our nation's military that uses hate speech against a segment of that military. We do have Muslims serving.

His 1st amendment rights were not violated.

If Klansmen were serving in the military, would that mean we shouldn't allow anyone who opposes racism to speak at West Point?

Known klansmen aren't allowed in the military. Fail.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"Boykin has said that Muslims are trying to implement Shariah Law in the United States and that Islam is the greatest threat America faces."

Sounds like simple reality to me but I guess there are many in denial.

Yes, you are in denial.

 

[JakeStarkey]

How many Caucasian Muslims do you know?

Quite a few. Many who served in southeastern Europe met many Caucasian Muslims.

 

[Stephanie]

"Boykin has said that Muslims are trying to implement Shariah Law in the United States and that Islam is the greatest threat America faces."

Sounds like simple reality to me but I guess there are many in denial.

WRONG!

In interviews, American Muslims say they reject separate ‘sharia’ law system

A new study based on interviews with more than 200 North American Muslims concludes that a recent spate of state laws banning "sharia law" from the court system may be an overreaction to a non-existent threat.

Oklahoma, Tennessee and Louisiana each passed laws or referendums to ban state judges from considering sharia and other foreign laws last year, and more than 20 other states have debated similar legislation. Newt Gingrich has called for a federal law to ban sharia, while his fellow Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum has said sharia law is an "existential threat" to America.

The qualitative study, by University of Windsor law professor Julie MacFarlane and published by the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding think tank, is the first to ask American Muslims what they think of sharia, or Islamic religious law. MacFarlane interviewed 101 Muslim men and women, 41 imams and 70 community leaders and specialists about their uses of Islamic law in everyday life. (About a quarter of the respondents live in Canada, but MacFarlane found no significant difference between the Canadian and American responses.)

MacFarlane asked the respondents whether they thought American courts should apply Islamic law to non-Muslims in the legal system. All of them said no.

OMG....Well then...it's all settled..ONE POLL says so.
and who are you assholes to say what people speak about and where people can SPEAK?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Shut up, Stephanie. When do you get to be in charge?

 

[Sunni Man]

Maybe he didn't wish to attend a prayer breakfast with Muslims for religeous reasons or for fear they would explode.

Hard to believe, but this is one of 9thIDdoc's more logical responses.

 

[kidrocks]

"Boykin has said that Muslims are trying to implement Shariah Law in the United States and that Islam is the greatest threat America faces."

Sounds like simple reality to me but I guess there are many in denial.

WRONG!

In interviews, American Muslims say they reject separate ‘sharia’ law system

A new study based on interviews with more than 200 North American Muslims concludes that a recent spate of state laws banning "sharia law" from the court system may be an overreaction to a non-existent threat.

Oklahoma, Tennessee and Louisiana each passed laws or referendums to ban state judges from considering sharia and other foreign laws last year, and more than 20 other states have debated similar legislation. Newt Gingrich has called for a federal law to ban sharia, while his fellow Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum has said sharia law is an "existential threat" to America.

The qualitative study, by University of Windsor law professor Julie MacFarlane and published by the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding think tank, is the first to ask American Muslims what they think of sharia, or Islamic religious law. MacFarlane interviewed 101 Muslim men and women, 41 imams and 70 community leaders and specialists about their uses of Islamic law in everyday life. (About a quarter of the respondents live in Canada, but MacFarlane found no significant difference between the Canadian and American responses.)

MacFarlane asked the respondents whether they thought American courts should apply Islamic law to non-Muslims in the legal system. All of them said no.

OMG....Well then...it's all settled..ONE POLL says so.
and who are you assholes to say what people speak about and where people can SPEAK?

It's called a debate forum bird-brain. It's called democracy.

 

[Stephanie]

Shut up, Stephanie. When do you get to be in charge?

I get to be in charge...I'm sick of listening to you whiny assed people today..

 

[JakeStarkey]

Ok

 

[Stephanie]

Ok

The West thread got on my last nerve..

waaaaaaaaaa, he told LIBERALS to leave..........waaaaa
my gawd.

 

[Lakhota]

Ok

The West thread got on my last nerve..

waaaaaaaaaa, he told LIBERALS to leave..........waaaaa
my gawd.

And Waxman called wingnuts terrorists...

waaaaaaaaaa, waaaaa....
my gawd.