Revoke Citizenship of Criminal Immigrants

[Correll]

The grounds for revoking citizenship are quite narrow.

I'm sure there are some who want to make it easier.

They're moving on from their past insistence (repeatedly) that this was only ever about ILLEGAL immigrants.

I have always been clear that my concern was not limited to Illegal immigration, but all immigration, especially Third World immigration.

Few of my fellow conservatives were there with me, but it may be that as the Taboo against discussing these issues is challenged that my view may gain some traction.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Not easy to get your citizenship revoked.

Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization - Chapter 2, Part L, Volume 12 | Policy Manual | USCIS

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on the following grounds:

A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution. [1]


Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation. [2]

B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation [3]
1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

•The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;
•The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

•The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and
•The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment. [4]

This ground of revocation includes omissions as well as affirmative misrepresentations. The misrepresentations can be oral testimony provided during the naturalization interview or can include information contained on the application submitted by the applicant. The courts determine whether the misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material. The test for materiality is whether the misrepresentations or concealment had a tendency to affect the decision. It is not necessary that the information, if disclosed, would have precluded naturalization. [5]


2. Membership or Affiliation with Certain Organizations

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization. [6] In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. [7]

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.

C. Other than Honorable Discharge before Five Years of Honorable Service after Naturalization
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if:

•The person became a United States citizen through naturalization on the basis of honorable service in the U.S. armed forces; [8]

•The person subsequently separates from the U.S. armed forces under other than honorable conditions; and

•The other than honorable discharge occurs before the person has served honorably for a period or periods aggregating at least five years. [9]

A. could obviously be applied to most criminals, ie lack of good moral character.

Those are for citizens who have been naturalized. For those of us born as citizens, we can give it up but it can't be taken away from us.

Yes, in the context of the OP, criminal naturalized immigrants.

Revoke and deport.

I doubt that would get past the SCOTUS.

 

[Correll]

Not easy to get your citizenship revoked.

Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization - Chapter 2, Part L, Volume 12 | Policy Manual | USCIS

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on the following grounds:

A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution. [1]


Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation. [2]

B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation [3]
1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

•The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;
•The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

•The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and
•The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment. [4]

This ground of revocation includes omissions as well as affirmative misrepresentations. The misrepresentations can be oral testimony provided during the naturalization interview or can include information contained on the application submitted by the applicant. The courts determine whether the misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material. The test for materiality is whether the misrepresentations or concealment had a tendency to affect the decision. It is not necessary that the information, if disclosed, would have precluded naturalization. [5]


2. Membership or Affiliation with Certain Organizations

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization. [6] In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. [7]

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.

C. Other than Honorable Discharge before Five Years of Honorable Service after Naturalization
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if:

•The person became a United States citizen through naturalization on the basis of honorable service in the U.S. armed forces; [8]

•The person subsequently separates from the U.S. armed forces under other than honorable conditions; and

•The other than honorable discharge occurs before the person has served honorably for a period or periods aggregating at least five years. [9]

A. could obviously be applied to most criminals, ie lack of good moral character.

Those are for citizens who have been naturalized. For those of us born as citizens, we can give it up but it can't be taken away from us.

Yes, in the context of the OP, criminal naturalized immigrants.

Revoke and deport.

If they have met immigration requirements and did everything legally and then committed crimes worthy of deportation, you betcha.

I am not aware that we really do this currently, on any useful scale.

At the very least it should be considered in EVERY single criminal case with a naturalized immigrant.

 

[Correll]

Not easy to get your citizenship revoked.

Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization - Chapter 2, Part L, Volume 12 | Policy Manual | USCIS

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on the following grounds:

A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution. [1]


Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation. [2]

B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation [3]
1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

•The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;
•The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

•The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and
•The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment. [4]

This ground of revocation includes omissions as well as affirmative misrepresentations. The misrepresentations can be oral testimony provided during the naturalization interview or can include information contained on the application submitted by the applicant. The courts determine whether the misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material. The test for materiality is whether the misrepresentations or concealment had a tendency to affect the decision. It is not necessary that the information, if disclosed, would have precluded naturalization. [5]


2. Membership or Affiliation with Certain Organizations

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization. [6] In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. [7]

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.

C. Other than Honorable Discharge before Five Years of Honorable Service after Naturalization
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if:

•The person became a United States citizen through naturalization on the basis of honorable service in the U.S. armed forces; [8]

•The person subsequently separates from the U.S. armed forces under other than honorable conditions; and

•The other than honorable discharge occurs before the person has served honorably for a period or periods aggregating at least five years. [9]

A. could obviously be applied to most criminals, ie lack of good moral character.

Those are for citizens who have been naturalized. For those of us born as citizens, we can give it up but it can't be taken away from us.

Yes, in the context of the OP, criminal naturalized immigrants.

Revoke and deport.

I doubt that would get past the SCOTUS.

Might not. That is no reason to not try.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The grounds for revoking citizenship are quite narrow.

Well, obviously he is suggesting either an expansion or at least more aggressive enforcement of those rules.

Does he intend to burn the Constitution, or just lock it in the attic for 4 years?

Your concern for the Constitution is commendable.

If somewhat odd for a lib.

What is your real reason for being against this?

It would likely go too far in depriving a naturalized citizen of equal protection under the law.

I've seen to many times when libs are willing to throw whites under the bus or give blacks or some other minority a pass to believe that.

The Supreme Court isn't composed of liberals sitting in front of their computers.

 

[JGalt]

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Trump's a great deal maker/salesman... even a democratic-socialist like me will buy this part of what he's selling.

The above is what Trump's selling, right?​

.

So aside from Senor Juan who's selling drugs out of his apartment, how many illegals are creating the number of jobs that those depicted corporations are creating? Have anyone even ever been given a job by an illegal immigrant?

Do you even have half of a clue as to how many people those corporation have hired in this country, how much revenue those employees have paid to the government, and how much revenue those corporations have also paid in to the government?

Probably not because you're a socialist, and socialist don't have a clue about how things really work in this world. They believe that they can take as much as they want from business and corporation, give it to the FreeShitArmy, and everything will magically work out right. This isn't how it works. When governments and labor unions extort money from businesses, those businesses stop hiring. They stop producing. They stop buying more capital equipment. Or they just pick up and go to some country in which they can afford to stay in business.

But when governments allow corporations to operate with fewer intrusive laws and allow them tax breaks, corporations thrive. They hire more employees. They increase production. They buy more capital equipment. And more tax revenue is generated for the government.

How can anyone not understand this simple concept?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Not easy to get your citizenship revoked.

Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization - Chapter 2, Part L, Volume 12 | Policy Manual | USCIS

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on the following grounds:

A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution. [1]


Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation. [2]

B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation [3]
1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

•The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;
•The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

•The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and
•The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment. [4]

This ground of revocation includes omissions as well as affirmative misrepresentations. The misrepresentations can be oral testimony provided during the naturalization interview or can include information contained on the application submitted by the applicant. The courts determine whether the misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material. The test for materiality is whether the misrepresentations or concealment had a tendency to affect the decision. It is not necessary that the information, if disclosed, would have precluded naturalization. [5]


2. Membership or Affiliation with Certain Organizations

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization. [6] In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. [7]

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.

C. Other than Honorable Discharge before Five Years of Honorable Service after Naturalization
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if:

•The person became a United States citizen through naturalization on the basis of honorable service in the U.S. armed forces; [8]

•The person subsequently separates from the U.S. armed forces under other than honorable conditions; and

•The other than honorable discharge occurs before the person has served honorably for a period or periods aggregating at least five years. [9]

A. could obviously be applied to most criminals, ie lack of good moral character.

Those are for citizens who have been naturalized. For those of us born as citizens, we can give it up but it can't be taken away from us.

Yes, in the context of the OP, criminal naturalized immigrants.

Revoke and deport.

I doubt that would get past the SCOTUS.

Might not. That is no reason to not try.

You would literally then be creating second class citizens.

 

[Correll]

Well, obviously he is suggesting either an expansion or at least more aggressive enforcement of those rules.

Does he intend to burn the Constitution, or just lock it in the attic for 4 years?

Your concern for the Constitution is commendable.

If somewhat odd for a lib.

What is your real reason for being against this?

It would likely go too far in depriving a naturalized citizen of equal protection under the law.

I've seen to many times when libs are willing to throw whites under the bus or give blacks or some other minority a pass to believe that.

The Supreme Court isn't composed of liberals sitting in front of their computers.

Not sure of your reference. My point was about libs in general.


Thought the libs on the Court certainly have supported my point at times.

SUch as their support for blatant anti-white discrimination in the New Haven Firefighter case.

For one excellent example.

 

[JakeStarkey]

'The Supreme Court isn't composed of liberals sitting in front of their computers."

They aren't? Who lied to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Correll]

A. could obviously be applied to most criminals, ie lack of good moral character.

Those are for citizens who have been naturalized. For those of us born as citizens, we can give it up but it can't be taken away from us.

Yes, in the context of the OP, criminal naturalized immigrants.

Revoke and deport.

I doubt that would get past the SCOTUS.

Might not. That is no reason to not try.

You would literally then be creating second class citizens.

I would?

Or did that happen when they left in tens of millions of people without any serious screening?

 

[Hancock]

The grounds for revoking citizenship are quite narrow.

Well, obviously he is suggesting either an expansion or at least more aggressive enforcement of those rules.

Does he intend to burn the Constitution, or just lock it in the attic for 4 years?

You're worried about four more years after the last eight...

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[Star]

Not easy to get your citizenship revoked.

Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization - Chapter 2, Part L, Volume 12 | Policy Manual | USCIS

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on the following grounds:

A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution. [1]


Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation. [2]

B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation [3]
1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

•The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;
•The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

•The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and
•The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment. [4]

This ground of revocation includes omissions as well as affirmative misrepresentations. The misrepresentations can be oral testimony provided during the naturalization interview or can include information contained on the application submitted by the applicant. The courts determine whether the misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material. The test for materiality is whether the misrepresentations or concealment had a tendency to affect the decision. It is not necessary that the information, if disclosed, would have precluded naturalization. [5]


2. Membership or Affiliation with Certain Organizations

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization. [6] In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. [7]

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.

C. Other than Honorable Discharge before Five Years of Honorable Service after Naturalization
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if:

•The person became a United States citizen through naturalization on the basis of honorable service in the U.S. armed forces; [8]

•The person subsequently separates from the U.S. armed forces under other than honorable conditions; and

•The other than honorable discharge occurs before the person has served honorably for a period or periods aggregating at least five years. [9]

Do these rules apply to corporate persons?
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[JakeStarkey]

They aren't? Who lied to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not easy to get your citizenship revoked.

Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization - Chapter 2, Part L, Volume 12 | Policy Manual | USCIS

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on the following grounds:

A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution. [1]


Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation. [2]

B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation [3]
1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

•The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;
•The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

•The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and
•The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment. [4]

This ground of revocation includes omissions as well as affirmative misrepresentations. The misrepresentations can be oral testimony provided during the naturalization interview or can include information contained on the application submitted by the applicant. The courts determine whether the misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material. The test for materiality is whether the misrepresentations or concealment had a tendency to affect the decision. It is not necessary that the information, if disclosed, would have precluded naturalization. [5]


2. Membership or Affiliation with Certain Organizations

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization. [6] In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. [7]

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.

C. Other than Honorable Discharge before Five Years of Honorable Service after Naturalization
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if:

•The person became a United States citizen through naturalization on the basis of honorable service in the U.S. armed forces; [8]

•The person subsequently separates from the U.S. armed forces under other than honorable conditions; and

•The other than honorable discharge occurs before the person has served honorably for a period or periods aggregating at least five years. [9]

Do these rules apply to corporate persons?
.

And capital punishment and total forfeiture and dividend recapture as well?

 

[Star]

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Trump's a great deal maker/salesman... even a democratic-socialist like me will buy this part of what he's selling.

The above is what Trump's selling, right?​

.

So aside from Senor Juan who's selling drugs out of his apartment, how many illegals are creating the number of jobs that those depicted corporations are creating? Have anyone even ever been given a job by an illegal immigrant?

Do you even have half of a clue as to how many people those corporation have hired in this country, how much revenue those employees have paid to the government, and how much revenue those corporations have also paid in to the government?

Probably not because you're a socialist, and socialist don't have a clue about how things really work in this world. They believe that they can take as much as they want from business and corporation, give it to the FreeShitArmy, and everything will magically work out right. This isn't how it works. When governments and labor unions extort money from businesses, those businesses stop hiring. They stop producing. They stop buying more capital equipment. Or they just pick up and go to some country in which they can afford to stay in business.

But when governments allow corporations to operate with fewer intrusive laws and allow them tax breaks, corporations thrive. They hire more employees. They increase production. They buy more capital equipment. And more tax revenue is generated for the government.

How can anyone not understand this simple concept?

Are you saying giant corporate tax avoiders goods and services will disappear and no one else will produce or offer those goods and services when money is to be made? - poo-foocking-leeze
Ayn Rand - pewsh!
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[JakeStarkey]

If we followed JGalt's understanding of how capitalism best works in the USA, world poverty would increae 10% in six months.

 

[Star]

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Trump's a great deal maker/salesman... even a democratic-socialist like me will buy this part of what he's selling.

The above is what Trump's selling, right?​

.

So aside from Senor Juan who's selling drugs out of his apartment, how many illegals are creating the number of jobs that those depicted corporations are creating? Have anyone even ever been given a job by an illegal immigrant?

Do you even have half of a clue as to how many people those corporation have hired in this country, how much revenue those employees have paid to the government, and how much revenue those corporations have also paid in to the government?

Probably not because you're a socialist, and socialist don't have a clue about how things really work in this world. They believe that they can take as much as they want from business and corporation, give it to the FreeShitArmy, and everything will magically work out right. This isn't how it works. When governments and labor unions extort money from businesses, those businesses stop hiring. They stop producing. They stop buying more capital equipment. Or they just pick up and go to some country in which they can afford to stay in business.

But when governments allow corporations to operate with fewer intrusive laws and allow them tax breaks, corporations thrive. They hire more employees. They increase production. They buy more capital equipment. And more tax revenue is generated for the government.

How can anyone not understand this simple concept?

Even the Republican frontrunner for POTUS is smart enough to "understand" some of these corporations, hedge-funders, estate tax avoiders... are ripping-off the American people but-----but apparently you're not smart enough recognize thievery even though it's your pocket that's getting picked.


Donald Trump Changes His Tune On Taxing The Super Rich

by Bryce Covert
Aug 24, 2015


On Sunday, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump struck a populist tone when talking about hedge funds and the taxes they pay. “They’re paying nothing and it’s ridiculous,” he told John Dickerson on Face the Nation. “They make a fortune, they pay no tax, it’s ridiculous okay.”

He went on to say they “are getting away with murder” and that “they have to pay tax.” Without specifying exactly how he would change that, he added that he wants to lower tax rates for middle-class Americans. “The middle class is the one, they’re getting absolutely destroyed.”


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[TemplarKormac]

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Trump's a great deal maker/salesman... even a democratic-socialist like me will buy this part of what he's selling.

The above is what Trump's selling, right?​

.

....?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The grounds for revoking citizenship are quite narrow.

Much like the minds of most conservatives.