Restoring what once was our republic

[Lesh]

Odd, we raise it ever year and our debt continues to grow.

Deciding to just not pay your existing bills is no answer.

What happens in your personal finances if you simply decide not to pay your mortgage or credit card bills?

 

[22lcidw]

"mostly by Democrats".... well, there's the first problem. Republicans blame EVERYTHING on Democrats, Democrats blame everything on Republicans and this infighting leads to nothing.

Think about it.

Children in public schools are proof of the insane taking over. Infighting does not exist. One side spewing concern is taking as infighting when the other side dominates near completely. Of course, the elites and politicians and media and entertainers live so much differently. And the socialist/communist voters look past that and that is the valve of depravity and destruction.

 

[pknopp]

Deciding to just not pay your existing bills is no answer.

What happens in your personal finances if you simply decide not to pay your mortgage or credit card bills?

I know that it would mean I could no longer take on more and more debt.

 

[Lesh]

I know that it would mean I could no longer take on more and more debt.

Because your credit would be cut off.

Do it. Just stop paying your bills and get back to us on three months and let us know how things are going

 

[pknopp]

Because your credit would be cut off.

Great. I'm hoping for that. Start paying for the things we want. I'm betting other countries will not be getting billions to fight useless wars that way.

 

[Lesh]

Great. I'm hoping for that. Start paying for the things we want. I'm betting other countries will not be getting billions to fight useless wars that way.

So you want the nation to go into default.

Do you have a clue what the effect of that would be?

No. You do not

 

[pknopp]

So you want the nation to go into default.

Do you have a clue what the effect of that would be?

No. You do not

I've already noted what the effect would be. Odd you state I do not understand when I've already noted it.

 

[Billiejeens]

Rep. Chip Roy - Texas District 21

Fundraising profile for Rep. Chip Roy - Texas District 21

www.opensecrets.org

He's just another pig at the trough. You've been had...again.

The "you've been had" comment.
Why has the Democrat Cult decided on this statement to present every time that there is no actual refutation of a fact available.
It is a strategy for sure.
Have they told you why you are supposed to use this term?
It sounds as if they are trying to use some type of childish peer pressure to get compliance.
Sawry if they haven't told you why you should use this tactic.
I can tell you that peer pressure as weak as that won't get Consevative people to change.

 

[gipper]

^^^^^^^^^^
Through all the background noise in this entire thread.......this is probably all that really matters at this point.

Americans haven’t realized their government is actively working against them. It is their enemy, but they’ve yet to figure it out. I suspect most never will.

 

[Lesh]

I've already noted what the effect would be. Odd you state I do not understand when I've already noted it.

You said “start paying for the things we want”

That is stupidly false. You would have no credit. You’d be lucky to have food. You wouldn’t have a roof over your head.

Do it. Stop paying your bills. Get back to us in a while.

Oh wait. You’ll be living in a card board box

 

[Redfish]

"20 Patriots" BWAHAHAHAHA

You do realize that Trump endorsed McCarthy right?

he endorsed McCarthy to stop the foolish infighting that is hurting the party and weakening its majority in the house. the dems know how to vote in a block no matter what they really believe, how else was crazy Nancy speaker as long as she was?

 

[Redfish]

Deciding to just not pay your existing bills is no answer.

What happens in your personal finances if you simply decide not to pay your mortgage or credit card bills?

at some point the country is just going to have to declare bankruptcy and tell china and the other creditors to kiss off. we cannot continue to operate at a deficit.

 

[Billiejeens]

he endorsed McCarthy to stop the foolish infighting that is hurting the party and weakening its majority in the house. the dems know how to vote in a block no matter what they really believe, how else was crazy Nancy speaker as long as she was?

I believe that Presiden Trump endorsed him from the start.
How are the negotiations weakening the majority, the margin number is not changing.
The Democrats are a cult led by the Democrat Media Bubble Cult.
So yes on that part.

 

[BlackSand]

Over the passed few decades, the remaining strands of what was once called our Republic has been snipped. Mostly by democrats, in the name of "democracy." But the GOP hands are just as dirty because of the times that they've had the majority in the House, and failed to enact rules and procedures that made our government a Republic again, and not a democracy or the oligarchy it now is.
The 202 holdouts, IMO are fighting to keep their oligarchy. They've even attempted to use fear mongering as a means to get the 20 patriots back in line. Making up all sorts of lies about what's gone on in those meetings.
For the last 4 decades, some of us have paid attention to some of these rule changes. Chip Roy exposed a couple lately. But the one that I believe was the final straw in what was left of our Republic, was the one that forces all congressmen to put their amendments through a committee before they're introduced on the House floor.
Boehner was the first to reduce the amount of amendments being allowed on the house floor (first) Pelosi was the first to not allow any. Ryan copied and pasted that. Pelosi once again did the same. It's become the norm by now.
But Justin Amash brought this rule to my attention when he left congress. Although, I really didn't realize how important that one rule was to our Republic.

We elect our congressman to represent us. To vote yes or no on bills. To write up the bills and amendments that would benefit those of us in our districts. But this rule abolishes at least part of that. Because if our congressman can't offer bills on the house floor, and get a vote from every other member of congress, this means that only a few people in some committee get to decide. Therefore, the house of representatives, as a whole, aren't the ones making these decisions for us or our Rep. It's the few people in a committee.
And here's where it gets sticky. Who pays for those committee seats? Lobbyist. They dole out the $400,000 to $500,000 per committee seat for their favorite congressman. And all he/she has to do to pay it back is either fund raise, or vote the way the lobbyist/special interest wants them to vote.
So now, we're not even being represented by other members of congress. But by the lobbyist who pay for those committee seats.

This is just one of the rules changes that Chip Roy and the others are calling for. And McCarthy is refusing. I think it's because if the rules get changed, lobbyist won't have such a stranglehold on those committee members.

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The Establishment is not exclusive to one side of the aisle ... And people are starting to recognize that.
Might be a day late, and a dollar short ... About $173 trillion in Unfunded Liabilities ... And equal to more than a half of the entire world's wealth.

It won't make a difference until the People start seizing our Power back from the Establishment.
Stop sending every little thing to Capitol Hill ... Especially if the reason they are doing it is because they cannot succeed in their own States,
without leveraging the opinions of others ... In a desperate plea to ignore their failures on the ground and in their communities.

This Nation needs an enema ... We need to stop begging for the crap Capitol Hill is more than happy to provide us with ...
As we carelessly throw away our Power, Freedoms and ability to work with our neighbors and accomplish better things.

If We the People don't stop ... The rot will just spread further ... Infect and destroy our Federal Agencies even more than it already has ...
And any chance the People have of ever being able to reach the monster we are creating ... Will become unachievable.

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[Redfish]

I believe that Presiden Trump endorsed him from the start.
How are the negotiations weakening the majority, the margin number is not changing.
The Democrats are a cult led by the Democrat Media Bubble Cult.
So yes on that part.

yes, he did

they look disorganized and unable to get a consensus. that hurts their image with the people. The deals to put McCarthy in as speaker should have been made months ago.

 

[Billiejeens]

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The Establishment is not exclusive to one side of the aisle ... And people are starting to recognize that.
Might be a day late and a dollar short ... About $173 trillion in Unfunded Liabilities ... And equal to more than a half of the entire world's wealth.

It won't make a difference until the People start seizing our Power back from the Establishment.
Stop sending every little thing to Capitol Hill ... Especially if the reason they are doing it is because they cannot succeed in their own States,
without leveraging the opinions of others ... In a desperate plea to ignore their failures on the ground and in their communities.

This Nation needs an enema ... We need to stop begging for the crap Capitol Hill is more than happy to provide us with ...
As we carelessly throw away our Power, Freedoms and ability to work with our neighbors and accomplish better things.

If We the People don't stop ... The rot will just spread further ... Infect and destroy our Federal Agencies even more than it already has ...
And any chance the People have of even being able to reach the Monster we are creating ... Will become unachievable.

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We sent the person most likely to be able to return power to the people.
He was actively working on that when the Military Industrial Complex/the Intelligence Industrial Complex/Big Technology Complex executed a coup on him.
In some ways I guess he is fortunate that he himself wasn't executed as these Entities did JFK.

 

[Billiejeens]

yes, he did

they look disorganized and unable to get a consensus. that hurts their image with the people. The deals to put McCarthy in as speaker should have been made months ago.

What is great about concensus?
They are not Democrats, everything is not top down instructions, Republicans think for themselves.

 

[Redfish]

What is great about concensus?
They are not Democrats, everything is not top down instructions, Republicans think for themselves.

yes, and that is good until it hurts the party, and it is hurting the party right now. I would personally like to see Jordan or Scalise as speaker, but that's not going to happen so they need to get behind the guy that can win and make the deals behind the scenes.

 

[Billiejeens]

yes, and that is good until it hurts the party, and it is hurting the party right now. I would personally like to see Jordan or Scalise as speaker, but that's not going to happen so they need to get behind the guy that can win and make the deals behind the scenes.

My area of agreement would be that yes, they did have half of November and December to do that.

 

[BlackSand]

We sent the person most likely to be able to return power to the people.
He was actively working on that when the Military Industrial Complex/the Intelligence Industry Complex/Big Technology Complex executed a coup on him.
In some ways I guess he is fortunate that he himself wasn't executed as these Entities did JFK.

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Thanks for the input but I don't think you understood what I posted ... Perhaps I am poor communicator, but I'll give it another shot.

There is nothing on Capitol Hill that will help you now ... Seize your Power at your State and Local Level.
I am blaming All the People who don't want to embrace the Protections we have in the US Constitution and the 18 Enumerated Powers.

We have trusted politicians out of our reach and that we have no control over for far too long ...
Expecting them to do the job that they have more than proven they are incapable of doing ... Is not the answer.

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