Republitards myth about the working poor "refudiated"

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    I found this while I was at work


    http://www.umb.edu/academics/cla/dept/economics/faculty/documents/kim_are_wrking_poor_lazy.pdf




    There is a long tradition in America that the poor are victims of their own laziness, a tradition resurrected in recent years. The author shows how wrong advocates of this point of view are.


    In conclusion the author wrote some good shit.



    Charles Murray once asked, "Can any American who is willing
    to work hard make a decent living?" (Murray, 1987). The answer
    seems to be no. Although working clearly reduces the probability
    of being poor, which is consistent with his analysis, it is
    not a panacea. Most of the working poor would remain poor
    even if they worked 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year. In addition,
    of those who could climb out of poverty if they worked
    such hours, two out of five are either disabled or elderly or unable
    to find full-time or full-year employment. Thus it appears
    that most of the working poor are doing all they can to support
    themselves. Only 18 to 28 percent of the working poor could
    potentially escape poverty by working full-time and year-round,
    assuming that enough jobs are available.
    Therefore, working more hours is not a solution to poverty,
    and the existence of the working poor will not disappear by inducing
    greater work effort. Instead, because most of the working
    poor are poor not because they choose to work too few
    hours but because their wages are too low and their jobs fail
    to provide full-time and full-year employment, government
    policies continue to be needed.




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    love this line
    Although working clearly reduces the probability
    of being poor
     
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    Zzzzzz.

    Unless it's the government interferences which cause employers to be unable to hire enough employees or to be able to afford to pay them what they might otherwise be able to afford to pay valued employees.
     
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    This book is on this very subject. The author went undercover and tried to survive on working poor wages. It was damn near impossible working 2 and even 3 jobs at a time - with no kids/family AND a car.

    Barbara Ehrenreich, author of Nickel and Dimed
     
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    There has been and will always be classes of poor ,of rich and of middle and all the government planning in the world won't change that. If everyone got a college degree or learned a trade, there would still be a top and a bottom tier.
     
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    Republitarded maggot has insults and no proof that all people who are poor are lazy, unmotivated and looking for handout.
     
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    Big Government Tards' myth that we can win the War On Poverty by making it more comfortable is repudiated.

    On Jan. 8, 1964, President Lyndon Johnson delivered a State of the Union address to Congress in which he declared an "unconditional war on poverty in America." Then, the poverty rate in America was around 19% and falling rapidly. Last week, it was reported that the poverty rate this year is expected to be roughly 15%, and is climbing.

    Between then and now, the federal government spent more than $13 trillion fighting poverty, and state and local governments added another couple of trillion. Yet the poverty rate never fell below 10.5%.

    The federal government now has 122 separate anti-poverty programs (defined as either means-tested programs or programs whose legislative language specifically refers to their purpose as combating poverty).

    These range from Medicaid, the largest and most expensive anti-poverty program, to the tiny Even Start Program for Indian Tribes and Tribal Organizations. Combined, these 122 programs spent more than $591 billion in 2009, and are projected to cost even more this year.

    That amounts to $14,849 for every poor man, woman and child in America. Given that the poverty line is $10,830, it would have been cheaper just to mail every poor person a check for $11,000.


    More Proof We Can?t Stop Poverty By Making It More Comfortable - IBD - Investors.com
     
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    Horse shit.

    Living within one's actual means may be difficult, but if one has a full time job and is not providing support for others, it is completely do-able. And a hell of an incentive to improve one's self, too.

    The problem nowadays is that the government interference has made capitalism much less possible -- and the old days of working hard and advancing much more difficult.
     
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    Um, there may not be a middle class much longer.
     

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