Republicans..The real allies of African Americans

[BlackAsCoal]

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Sorry but even you don’t speak for all African Americans. Oh… one more thing.. the fact that you choose to ignore this fact, just tells me that either you don’t care, or don't have a good argument to support you’re position. Those damn anti-abortion right wingers.. they’re trying to save Black Babies... Friken racist.

The killing of over 400,000 black people every year, this plan has been so effective until Hispanics now out number Blacks in America. This effective gift of genocide comes from the Democratic Party supported practice called, Abortion.

You don't speak for any of them .. but regardless of who speaks for us, our actions speaks for us all. We have REJECTED the foolish notion of republicans as our friends and allies.

Feel free to ignore the voice and delude yourself into whatever you choose to believe.

Makes no difference.

They aren't trying to save black babies you idiot .. they're trying to save the white ones to bolster their dwindling population ratio.

Hispanics outnumber African-Americans in America. So what? We aren't afraid of hispanics.

Hispanics immigrate to this country in much higher numbers then blacks .. AND, they have higher birth rates than blacks or whites .. something that most morons already know.

 

[Jroc]

Did I say anything about "racism and discrimination"?

Since we are making assertions, I will make one. The failure of America is the failure of the American parents as a whole. If American parents had insisted on their children succeeding instead of relying on the school systems, public and private, to substitute the link for American parents responsibility, I truly believe the country would be far better off.

Ok.. I can agree with that, but the fact is that these politicians make excuses for failure and most of these parents have grown up in dysfunctional households themselves. But these same kids, it has been proven, do much better when they have a choice of schools as was the case with the voucher program in D.C. But the Dems chose to cancel that program why? Because their allies the teachers unions didn't want it. this is the kind of stuff i'm talking about.

 

[Jroc]

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Sorry but even you don’t speak for all African Americans. Oh… one more thing.. the fact that you choose to ignore this fact, just tells me that either you don’t care, or don't have a good argument to support you’re position. Those damn anti-abortion right wingers.. they’re trying to save Black Babies... Friken racist.

The killing of over 400,000 black people every year, this plan has been so effective until Hispanics now out number Blacks in America. This effective gift of genocide comes from the Democratic Party supported practice called, Abortion.

You don't speak for any of them .. but regardless of who speaks for us, our actions speaks for us all. We have REJECTED the foolish notion of republicans as our friends and allies.

Feel free to ignore the voice and delude yourself into whatever you choose to believe.

Makes no difference.

They aren't trying to save black babies you idiot .. they're trying to save the white ones to bolster their dwindling population ratio.

Hispanics outnumber African-Americans in America. So what? We aren't afraid of hispanics.

Hispanics immigrate to this country in much higher numbers then blacks .. AND, they have higher birth rates than blacks or whites .. something that most morons already know.

That’s pathetic... ok... you can move on because you are beyond help. You're stuck in you're own pathetic delusions.. I'm sorry for you.

 

[Tank]

Hispanics outnumber African-Americans in America. So what? We aren't afraid of hispanics.

Hispanics immigrate to this country in much higher numbers then blacks .. AND, they have higher birth rates than blacks or whites .. something that most morons already know.

If you think whites hate blacks, wait till Hispanics are the majority.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

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Sorry but even you don’t speak for all African Americans. Oh… one more thing.. the fact that you choose to ignore this fact, just tells me that either you don’t care, or don't have a good argument to support you’re position. Those damn anti-abortion right wingers.. they’re trying to save Black Babies... Friken racist.

You don't speak for any of them .. but regardless of who speaks for us, our actions speaks for us all. We have REJECTED the foolish notion of republicans as our friends and allies.

Feel free to ignore the voice and delude yourself into whatever you choose to believe.

Makes no difference.

They aren't trying to save black babies you idiot .. they're trying to save the white ones to bolster their dwindling population ratio.

Hispanics outnumber African-Americans in America. So what? We aren't afraid of hispanics.

Hispanics immigrate to this country in much higher numbers then blacks .. AND, they have higher birth rates than blacks or whites .. something that most morons already know.

That’s pathetic... ok... you can move on because you are beyond help. You're stuck in you're own pathetic delusions.. I'm sorry for you.

Fuck your sorry. I don't need you to help me with ANYTHING. I'm betting that I have more than you do. You're just a blip on my screen that is dumb enough to profess the completely stupid.

"Head counts don't count" Spoken like a true racist and a dedicated moron.

B'wana will tell you all you need to know. Ignore the fact that there are few of you in my party and almost none of you in our leadership .. but only we are your friends.



Obviously you take your status as a moron quite seriously.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hispanics hate folks that inhabit sites like storm front. I mean hate them and intend to make sure they have no influence on community politics.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Hispanics outnumber African-Americans in America. So what? We aren't afraid of hispanics.

Hispanics immigrate to this country in much higher numbers then blacks .. AND, they have higher birth rates than blacks or whites .. something that most morons already know.

If you think whites hate blacks, wait till Hispanics are the majority.

Well, well .. the idiot pussy from the basement.

I'm real sure you're familiar with the fairy tale of the Alamo. Brave American heroes fighting the evil Mexicans for "freedom."



An idiot bedtime fairy-tale for dummies.

In fact, it was fought because Texas refused to give up its property, human slaves. Mexico abolished slavery in 1829, long before the US did .. and it had become a place of escape for many slaves.

Now a cowardly punkette like you comes to sell YOUR fear.

That's how you neanderthals operate .. on fear.

BEWARE THE MEXICANS .. they're more racist then we are.

 

[Jroc]

You don't speak for any of them .. but regardless of who speaks for us, our actions speaks for us all. We have REJECTED the foolish notion of republicans as our friends and allies.

Feel free to ignore the voice and delude yourself into whatever you choose to believe.

Makes no difference.

They aren't trying to save black babies you idiot .. they're trying to save the white ones to bolster their dwindling population ratio.

Hispanics outnumber African-Americans in America. So what? We aren't afraid of hispanics.

Hispanics immigrate to this country in much higher numbers then blacks .. AND, they have higher birth rates than blacks or whites .. something that most morons already know.

That’s pathetic... ok... you can move on because you are beyond help. You're stuck in you're own pathetic delusions.. I'm sorry for you.

Fuck your sorry. I don't need you to help me with ANYTHING. I'm betting that I have more than you do. You're just a blip on my screen that is dumb enough to profess the completely stupid.

"Head counts don't count" Spoken like a true racist and a dedicated moron.

B'wana will tell you all you need to know. Ignore the fact that there are few of you in my party and almost none of you in our leadership .. but only we are your friends.



Obviously you take your status as a moron quite seriously.

You see... the thing is.. I won't stoop to you're level. but you've been exposed for what you are. Enough said about you, but I'll keep posting in this thread in spite of people like you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Did I say anything about "racism and discrimination"?

Since we are making assertions, I will make one. The failure of America is the failure of the American parents as a whole. If American parents had insisted on their children succeeding instead of relying on the school systems, public and private, to substitute the link for American parents responsibility, I truly believe the country would be far better off.

Ok.. I can agree with that, but the fact is that these politicians make excuses for failure and most of these parents have grown up in dysfunctional households themselves. But these same kids, it has been proven, do much better when they have a choice of schools as was the case with the voucher program in D.C. But the Dems chose to cancel that program why? Because their allies the teachers unions didn't want it. this is the kind of stuff i'm talking about.

Match that with the far right trying to privatize public education. We see how effective and compassionate that has turned out with orphans and foster kids, the mentally impaired, and our elder care homes. Break the heart.

I think we have to accept the facts that (1) we are not going back to the 1920s and (2) we are not going to a full welfare state like Sweden. We have to work together in order to succeed.

 

[Jroc]

Match that with the far right trying to privatize public education. We see how effective and compassionate that has turned out with orphans and foster kids, the mentally impaired, and our elder care homes. Break the heart.

Well..I don't actually see anything wrong with private education regulated by the States But complete control over funding to our public schools by the federal government is too political with too many interest groups especially the NEA

I think we have to accept the facts that (1) we are not going back to the 1920s and (2) we are not going to a full welfare state like Sweden. We have to work together in order to succeed.

I agree... Which is why no one group of people should be beholden to any on one political party or ideology makes no sense.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Then business should give up the GOP and minorities the Dems? That is not going to happen.

 

[Jroc]

Then business should give up the GOP and minorities the Dems? That is not going to happen.

So you think Business is only is bed with the GOP? Thats were you're mistaken they are in bed with whomever is in power which is why big government with too much power is the main problem.

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[BrianH]

Lincoln was anti-slavery, not abolitionist. Lincoln believed in strong national government to which the states were subservient. Lincoln believed that labor pre-empted capital. Lincoln would laugh his head off at Jroc's silliness.

Frederick Douglass was abolitionist. FD would not talk to Jroc.

The OP failed a long time ago.

Definition of Abolitionist
"a reformer who favors abolishing slavery" --Therefore "anti-slavery"

That is not the traditional and historical definition and understanding of the term.

My point: you don't get to redefine terms to support your claims.

I can agree with that point.

 

[Jroc]

African-American columnist Joseph Perkins has studied the effects of Reaganomics on black America. He found that, after the Reagan tax cuts gained traction, African-American unemployment fell from 19.5 percent in 1983 to 11.4 percent in 1989. Black-owned businesses saw income rise from $12.4 billion in 1982 to $18.1 billion in 1987-an annual average growth rate of 7.9 percent. The black middle class expanded by one-third during the Reagan years, from 3.6 million to 4.8 million

Ronald Reagan ? More of a Friend to Blacks Than Obama? | Black Politics on the Web

 

[JakeStarkey]

African-American columnist Joseph Perkins has studied the effects of Reaganomics on black America. He found that, after the Reagan tax cuts gained traction, African-American unemployment fell from 19.5 percent in 1983 to 11.4 percent in 1989. Black-owned businesses saw income rise from $12.4 billion in 1982 to $18.1 billion in 1987-an annual average growth rate of 7.9 percent. The black middle class expanded by one-third during the Reagan years, from 3.6 million to 4.8 million

Ronald Reagan ? More of a Friend to Blacks Than Obama? | Black Politics on the Web

Compare that with black unemployment in 1963 with 1969 and black business ownership in the same period. Do that again for the era from 1993 to 1999. Then you might have something to talk about.

 

[JScott]

Historically Significant Black Experiences

Historical Points of Interest

1. One of the primary reasons the Republican Party came into existence was because of its opposition to the Democrat Party’s support and promoting of The Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. This act repealed the Anti-Slavery Missouri Compromise Law. The Missouri Compromise was an attempt to halt the spread of slavery beyond a certain point in the Louisiana Territory.

2. In 1854 at Jackson, Michigan a group of men met to form a new political party and one of the primary things that they agreed on, was their opposition to slavery and in particular the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. So while the Democratic Party was feverishly fighting to preserve slavery, the Republicans were meeting in Jackson, Michigan to destroy it.

3. The first candidate the Republican selected was Col. John C. Fremont who ran against pro-slavery candidate, Democrat James Buchanan. Even though Fremont loss it is interesting to know that he was the Republicans first anti-slavery presidential candidate.

4. In 1858, Republican Abraham Lincoln faced Democrat Stephen Douglas in a race for U.S. Senate in Illinois. That campaign became famous for the Lincoln-Douglas debates, with Democrat Stephen Douglas defending slavery and Republican Abraham Lincoln opposing it.

5. Lincoln is quoted as saying in 1858 the following, “A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe the government cannot endure permanently half slave and half free.” And it was with this attitude that Lincoln became the Republicans first elected president, in 1860.
6. Republican President Lincoln is quoted as saying the following to an Indiana Regiment: “Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.”

7. After experiencing repeated defeats during the Civil War, Lincoln declared, “On many a defeated field there was a voice louder than the thundering of a cannon. It was the voice God, crying, “Let My People go.” We…came to believe it as a great and solemn command.

8. In response to what Lincoln believed to be a divine mandate on January 1, 1863, he issued an edict we commonly call, The Emancipation Proclamation. And even though this act did not free all slaves or solves the slave problem, it led to change for the slave population in this country. (It is said that Lincoln before his death said, “The central act of my administration, and the greatest even of the nineteenth century was the Emancipation Proclamation…
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9. Two of the greatest fighters for the freedom of the slaves were two Republicans by the name of Charles Sumner and Thaddeus Stevens. Lerone Bennett, Jr. the historian said this regarding these two men. “Charles Sumner and Thaddeus Stevens educated Lincoln, and the country, to a policy of Black Emancipation.” To them, as much as to conservative Lincoln, black people owe their freedom.

10. Republicans Sumner and Stevens were responsible for three (3) amendments to the Constitution which freed black people from slavery, made them citizens with all the rights of all Americans and the right to vote. They did this even though the Democrats fought to prevent them from bringing these laws to pass.

11. Thaddeus Stevens also fought to give every freed slave forty acres of land and a mule, so that slaves could take care of their families

12. The dream of forty acres and a mule was destroyed when Lincoln was killed and his vice president, Andrew Johnson, a Democrat replaced Lincoln and said of Black people, “Black people were inferior to whites and unready for equal rights. So he worked to destroy much of what Republicans had worked and fought so hard for.

13. One of the greatest periods of freedom Blacks ever enjoyed in America was between 1867 and 1877. The Republican Party was responsible for this period of time, and many positive changes took place for Blacks during the time of the enforcement of a series of measures called, Reconstruction Acts. W.E. B. Dubois called this period the, “Mystic Years.”

14. Here are but a few things that happen during the Reconstruction period. A. Hiram Rhodes Revels (Republican) became the first Black in congress, holding the position of U.S. Senator B. Republican Joseph H. Rainey from South Carolina became the first member of the U.S. House of Representatives C. In 1875, Blanche Kelso Bruce of Mississippi was elected to U.S. Senate, the first black to serve a full term in the Senate. In 1871, he was appointed by Republican President James A. Garfield as Registrar of the U.S. Treasury.


15. During the Republican supported period called, Reconstruction, blacks held state offices throughout the South, they were superintendents of education. Black and White children went to school together, interracial marriages were common and we didn’t ride on the back of the bus. Black colleges like Howard, Fisk and Morehouse came into being.

16. The Democrats never accepted the Reconstruction Period, as the last word and they went about to take all these advancements back, through groups such as the Ku Klux Klan. Most klans men were Democrats. Lerone Bennett, Jr. says this about how the Democrats went about destroying the Reconstruction period. “By stealth and murder, by economic intimidation and political assassinations, by whippings and mamings, cuttings and shootings, by the knife, by the rope, by the whip. By the political use of terror, by the braining of the baby in its mothers arms, the slaying of the husband at his wife’s feet, the raping of the wife before her husbands’ eves. By fear….In every state, Democrats attempted to control the votes of their late slaves…and the Democrats succeeded in destroying the greatest time of freedom Blacks ever enjoyed in America.”


17. The great Black Republican abolitionist Frederick Douglass had this to say about the Democratic Party, “…Sir, it is evident that there is in this country a purely slavery party- a party which exists for no other earthly purpose than to promote the interests of slavery….For the present, the best representative of the slavery party in politics is the Democratic party.”

18. During the rebirth of the Civil Rights movement of the 50’s and 60’s the overwhelming number of governors who stood in their respective school doors to block blacks from attending their schools were Democrats such as, Alabama Democratic Governor George Wallace, who stood in the schoolhouse door, Georgia Democratic Governor Lester Maddox stood in his restaurant door with a pistol on his hip and men with ax handles stood behind him to block blacks from coming into his business, Mississippi Governor Ross Barnett declared he would stand against federal laws regarding integration, and then there is Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus who sent his national guard to prevent black children from entering Arkansas schools.

19. On September 25, 1957, Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower in a record breaking time of a little over three weeks sent federal troops to Arkansas to ensure the safety of black children who were integrating Arkansas schools.

20. The passage of the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 would not have been possible without the strong cohesive support of the Republican. In fact, all Southern Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act, including Al Gore, Sr. though President Lyndon Johnson was a Democrat he couldn’t get enough votes from his own party to pass civil rights laws, he needed the help of a willing Republican majority.

21. It is reported that over 4000 Ku Klux Klan killings took place during the terrible time of their reign of terror, but a better plan has been developed which eliminates over 400,000 black people every year, this plan has been so effective until Hispanics now out number Blacks in America. This effective gift of genocide comes from the Democratic Party supported practice called, Abortion.

Black History

If you were their allies theyd be lining up to vote for republicans.

 

[JakeStarkey]

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If you were their allies theyd be lining up to vote for republicans.

Either, then Jroc, thinks minorities are too stupid to see who their allies are, which is racist in concept, or he is lying, whether deliberately or not remains to be seen. I know he is racist. I wonder just how stupid he is.

 

[Jroc]

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If you were their allies theyd be lining up to vote for republicans.

Either, then Jroc, thinks minorities are too stupid to see who their allies are, which is racist in concept, or he is lying, whether deliberately or not remains to be seen. I know he is racist. I wonder just how stupid he is.

Really? Prove it. That&#8217;s the problem with you libs somebody speaks the truth and you call them a racist, based on what? You people don't give me any evidence to refute anything I posted; all we get from you is insults and name-calling. Shows how strong your arguments really are doesn't it? Like I said before most of the evidence I posted are all put out by black conservative groups those bullet points were put out by the pastor of a black church here in Michigan try clicking on the links before you make assumptions because they make you look like a fool

 

[mdn2000]

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If you were their allies theyd be lining up to vote for republicans.

Either, then Jroc, thinks minorities are too stupid to see who their allies are, which is racist in concept, or he is lying, whether deliberately or not remains to be seen. I know he is racist. I wonder just how stupid he is.

I doubt anyone could be as stupid as you JakeStarkey, again your attacking an USMB user on a personal level. Address the issue JakeStarkey, must JakeStarkey always revert to uncivil personal attacks. JakeStarkey can never be man enought to admit being wrong, by in this case the end justifies the means. JakeStarkey must always win and when the debate is lost, here we see JakeStarkey.

Your turn Jakey, tell everyone how I am bitter, how I am whining, I am just saying your a hypocrite, that JakeStarkey is a bit ignorant, and when proven so, JakeStarkey becomse very thin skinned.

Anyhow, that is all I have to say, JakeStarkey, I give you the last word on this one, say whatever you like about me, I will not respond, I want you to end your evening feeling you won. Go ahead, insult me. I am sitting down, ha ha.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I give what I get, mdn2000. The OP is flatly wrong. Black Americans know it. I wish it were different, but it is not.