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Jroc has given absolutely nothing to worry about. Lincoln and Douglass as conservatives? Please. Nutters posting and then repeating the same nutty points. Please. Jroc et al don't understand historical and political definitions and events? Yes.
The OP failed.
Recounting the history of a LONG DEAD Republican Party does not make republicans any friend of African-Americans today. Today's Republican Party is a mere shadow of its former self
It may not be quite the party it used to be, and there are plenty of people in the party that I disagree with, but as compared to the leftists in the Democrat party Most Republican are Constitutionalist.
Note to the wise, friends don't have to declare themselves as your best friend. That is decided by the other party, not you.
Then you better beware of the Democrats, because thats all they do” we are friends of the poor” "we are friends of minorities” I think you actually described them quite well
You’re way off base with that one. Conservatives are color blind. It is the left that sees everyone in groups. They don’t look at the American people as a whole. it seems you have the same view. And let me remind you, I am a Jew, most racist that don’t like blacks, don’t like Jews either
Give me an example of you’re heroes? Have I attacked anybody personally?
Is the right prepared to accept that genuine and brutal racism has existed in this nation for hundreds of years, still exists, and are prepared to address sane and civil remedies?
NO, they are not.
Is the right prepared to reject and eject the monsters and racists among them who promote white supremacy?
NO, HELL NO, they are not.
Humm…who promotes white Supremacy? They sure as hell aren’t part of any Republican Party that I know of. If there are some then point them out. I would like to know who they are myself
Please save your bullshit delusion of "friendship."
Nobody is buying it.
You know what? I really don’t see why you’re so bitter were will it get you? Why don’t you appreciate the blessing you have simply by being born in this country? Why would you think I am you’re enemy? Do you know me? were in anything that I have posted would lead you to believe that I am you’re enemy? you might like this video...well then again you probably wont
Jroc has given absolutely nothing to worry about. Lincoln and Douglass as conservatives? Please. Nutters posting and then repeating the same nutty points. Please. Jroc et al don't understand historical and political definitions and events? Yes.
The OP failed.
Nothing new with you, You're contributions to this thread (If you can call it that)have been of little or no value.
Lincoln was anti-slavery, not abolitionist. Lincoln believed in strong national government to which the states were subservient. Lincoln believed that labor pre-empted capital. Lincoln would laugh his head off at Jroc's silliness.
Frederick Douglass was abolitionist. FD would not talk to Jroc.
The OP failed a long time ago.
Lincoln was anti-slavery, not abolitionist. Lincoln believed in strong national government to which the states were subservient. Lincoln believed that labor pre-empted capital. Lincoln would laugh his head off at Jroc's silliness.
Frederick Douglass was abolitionist. FD would not talk to Jroc.
The OP failed a long time ago.
Definition of Abolitionist
"a reformer who favors abolishing slavery" --Therefore "anti-slavery"
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal
Constitutionalists .. totally and completely meaningless. Most on the right don't have a clue about the constitution or the founding of the country.
There are thousands of elected African-American democrats all over the country. Democrats had more African-Americans in Congress in 1970 then republicans have had since 1970 until now COMBINED.
Save that bullshit for someone else. The Republican Party is filled with racist and hate-mongers. Thank you Richard Nixon. You can't get rid of them or even piss 'em off because republicans would lose the south if they rejected their hate.
You being a Jew is equally meaningless in the argument. I'm not respondidng to what you are, but to what you say.
This ain't about you personally. It's about the right and the Republican Party.
My heroes ..
Jesse Jackson
Malcolm X
Angela Davis
Cynthia Mckinney
You get the point.
Explain how republicans can attack the people we honor, yet call themselves "friends?"
Well I can kind of understand Malcolm X and Angela Davis the other two not so much
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Is the right prepared to accept that genuine and brutal racism has existed in this nation for hundreds of years, still exists, and are prepared to address sane and civil remedies?
NO, they are not.
Is the right prepared to reject and eject the monsters and racists among them who promote white supremacy?
NO, HELL NO, they are not
SEE: Nixon's southern strategy. That should give you some clue of what you pretend you don't know.
Please save your bullshit delusion of "friendship."
Nobody is buying it.
Who is bitter? I enjoy this.
It seems to me that it's you who is bitter because we don't buy the mindfuck about republicans being our allies. Isn't that what all this whining is about?
The premise of this thread is the ridiculous notion that republicans are our friends and allies. I don't know you, but if you don't believe that African-Americans are capable of deciding for themselves who our friends and allies are, then the question about who you are is moot.
We have made TREMENDOUS strides in a mere 45 years .. and we made those strides DESPITE all the hate and silly ass notions like this one. We were able to force issues because we gained the political power to force them. We gained that power THROUGH the Democratic Party. How that escapes you is telling
The killing of over 400,000 black people every year, this plan has been so effective until Hispanics now out number Blacks in America. This effective gift of genocide comes from the Democratic Party supported practice called, Abortion.
Jroc keeps refusing to offer credible evidence to counter the evidence used to refute Jroc.
You need to step up, Jroc.
This whole thread is evidence that I have posted, you posted nothing I guess that means you don't have anything to support you postion?
This whole thread is evidence that I have posted, you posted nothing I guess that means you don't have anything to support you postion?
Your assertions have been refuted. Lincoln was not a conservative. Douglass was not a conservative. Ipso facto, your thesis (only Republicans or Conservatives support individual liberty fails). I don't have to anything else that dismantle your assertion, which has easily been done.
Democratic party's share of the black vote ever fell to even 70 percent, it's not likely that the Democrats would ever win the White House or Congress again. The strategy liberal Democrats have chosen, to prevent loss of the black vote, is to keep blacks paranoid and in a constant state of fear. But is it fear of racists, or being driven back to the plantation, that should be a top priority for blacks? Let's look at it.
Only 30 to 40 percent of black males graduate from high school. Many of those who do graduate emerge with reading and math skills of a white seventh- or eighth-grader. This is true in cities where a black is mayor, a black is superintendent of schools and the majority of principals and teachers are black. It's also true in cities where the per pupil education expenditures are among the highest in the nation.
Across the U.S., black males represent up to 70 percent of prison populations. Are they in prison for crimes against whites? To the contrary, their victims are primarily other blacks. Department of Justice statistics for 2001 show that in nearly 80 percent of violent crimes against blacks, both the victim and the perpetrator were the same race. In other words, it's not Reaganites, Bush supporters, right-wing ideologues or the Klan causing blacks to live in fear of their lives and property and making their neighborhoods economic wastelands.
What about the decline of the black family? In 1960, only 28 percent of black females between the ages of 15 and 44 were never married. Today, it's 56 percent. In 1940, the illegitimacy rate among blacks was 19 percent, in 1960, 22 percent, and today, it's 70 percent. Some argue that the state of the black family is the result of the legacy of slavery, discrimination and poverty. That has to be nonsense. A study of 1880 family structure in Philadelphia shows that three-quarters of black families were nuclear families, comprised of two parents and children. In New York City in 1925, 85 percent of kin-related black households had two parents. In fact, according to Herbert Gutman in "The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom: 1750-1925," "Five in six children under the age of 6 lived with both parents." Therefore, if one argues that what we see today is a result of a legacy of slavery, discrimination and poverty, what's the explanation for stronger black families at a time much closer to slavery a time of much greater discrimination and of much greater poverty? I think that a good part of the answer is there were no welfare and Great Society programs.
Walter Williams
Democratic party's share of the black vote ever fell to even 70 percent, it's not likely that the Democrats would ever win the White House or Congress again. The strategy liberal Democrats have chosen, to prevent loss of the black vote, is to keep blacks paranoid and in a constant state of fear. But is it fear of racists, or being driven back to the plantation, that should be a top priority for blacks? Let's look at it.
Only 30 to 40 percent of black males graduate from high school. Many of those who do graduate emerge with reading and math skills of a white seventh- or eighth-grader. This is true in cities where a black is mayor, a black is superintendent of schools and the majority of principals and teachers are black. It's also true in cities where the per pupil education expenditures are among the highest in the nation.
Across the U.S., black males represent up to 70 percent of prison populations. Are they in prison for crimes against whites? To the contrary, their victims are primarily other blacks. Department of Justice statistics for 2001 show that in nearly 80 percent of violent crimes against blacks, both the victim and the perpetrator were the same race. In other words, it's not Reaganites, Bush supporters, right-wing ideologues or the Klan causing blacks to live in fear of their lives and property and making their neighborhoods economic wastelands.
What about the decline of the black family? In 1960, only 28 percent of black females between the ages of 15 and 44 were never married. Today, it's 56 percent. In 1940, the illegitimacy rate among blacks was 19 percent, in 1960, 22 percent, and today, it's 70 percent. Some argue that the state of the black family is the result of the legacy of slavery, discrimination and poverty. That has to be nonsense. A study of 1880 family structure in Philadelphia shows that three-quarters of black families were nuclear families, comprised of two parents and children. In New York City in 1925, 85 percent of kin-related black households had two parents. In fact, according to Herbert Gutman in "The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom: 1750-1925," "Five in six children under the age of 6 lived with both parents." Therefore, if one argues that what we see today is a result of a legacy of slavery, discrimination and poverty, what's the explanation for stronger black families at a time much closer to slavery a time of much greater discrimination and of much greater poverty? I think that a good part of the answer is there were no welfare and Great Society programs.
Walter Williams
That may be. But Walter does not make that link between the facts and the conclusion. Can you do that? Are the other alternative possibilities? You have to consider those and give reasons why alternate possibilities do not answer the question.
