Republicans: Small government, or just hate the Poor?

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I fail to see how Republicans are particularly for Small Government.

Especially when they often think the U.S.A must spend more & more on Military spending, apparently it's not enough that 48% of the World's Military budget was by the U.S.A.

They'll think the extreme Minority of Terrorists who only make up a very small amount of Premature deaths in the West, somehow justifies a bunch of Big Government measures, like War, Homeland Security, Patriot Act, they're
going to give up their freedom in the Patriot Act, so the Terrorists don't win, Same with the Planes, a bunch of Security measures which take away our Privacy, or else the Terrorists win.

Many Republicans think we need more & more Police, that's more Big Government.

Then there's Republicans pushing for SOPA like Lamar Smith, which is another Big Government step against Freedom.

Then there's that many Republicans think the Government should step up harsher against Drugs we need more Big Government to crack down & even imprison drug users,
or
Against Refugees, and Illegal Immigrants, we need more Big Government to secure the Border with more Guards & a Big Wall.

Then there's Republicans looking to crack down on Abortion & Pornography... More Big Government.



But, then all of a sudden, Helping the poor get Healthcare, BIG GOVERNMENT Commies.

It's pretty obvious that Republicans don't hate Big Government, but that rather they hate the Poor.

 

[TNHarley]

I dont think they hate the poor but they definitely love big govt

 

[BULLDOG]

I don't think right wingers hate the poor. I think they just don't care about the poor enough to try to help them. It's easy for them to just pretend the poor don't exist, and they hate anything that forces them to acknowledge what the poor have to endure.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I don't think right wingers hate the poor. I think they just don't care about the poor enough to try to help them. It's easy for them to just pretend the poor don't exist, and they hate anything that forces them to acknowledge what the poor have to endure.

Charity is a personal moral issue, subject to individual choice.

It is not the venue of a government playing a cartoon Robin Hood with guns, no matter how good the intentions. There is no mandate granting such authority in the US Constitution, nor in any state constitution of which I'm aware.

If you take money by force from one individual to give it to another individual, it's theft.

 

[Oddball]

I don't think right wingers hate the poor. I think they just don't care about the poor enough to try to help them. It's easy for them to just pretend the poor don't exist, and they hate anything that forces them to acknowledge what the poor have to endure.

Leftbats don't GAF about the poor....They just farm it out to bureaucrats and act as though voting for welfare makes them "compassionate"

 

[BULLDOG]

I don't think right wingers hate the poor. I think they just don't care about the poor enough to try to help them. It's easy for them to just pretend the poor don't exist, and they hate anything that forces them to acknowledge what the poor have to endure.

Leftbats don't GAF about the poor....They just farm it out to bureaucrats and act as though voting for welfare makes them "compassionate"

You are certainly allowed to have that opinion, no matter how goofy it is.

 

[Oddball]

I don't think right wingers hate the poor. I think they just don't care about the poor enough to try to help them. It's easy for them to just pretend the poor don't exist, and they hate anything that forces them to acknowledge what the poor have to endure.

Leftbats don't GAF about the poor....They just farm it out to bureaucrats and act as though voting for welfare makes them "compassionate"

You are certainly allowed to have that opinion, no matter how goofy it is.

Fact is that democrats are the stingiest when it comes to real charitable giving....They don't care and are also lazy....Just pay your taxes and vote for people to be "compassionate" for you, and it's all good.

 

[TNHarley]

I don't think right wingers hate the poor. I think they just don't care about the poor enough to try to help them. It's easy for them to just pretend the poor don't exist, and they hate anything that forces them to acknowledge what the poor have to endure.

Leftbats don't GAF about the poor....They just farm it out to bureaucrats and act as though voting for welfare makes them "compassionate"

Its also worth noting a lot of their policies create more poor people. Which, i think, is massively ironic. Considering the rhetoric ^^

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I don't think right wingers hate the poor. I think they just don't care about the poor enough to try to help them. It's easy for them to just pretend the poor don't exist, and they hate anything that forces them to acknowledge what the poor have to endure.

Leftbats don't GAF about the poor....They just farm it out to bureaucrats and act as though voting for welfare makes them "compassionate"

Its also worth noting a lot of their policies create more poor people. Which, i think, is massively ironic. Considering the rhetoric ^^

Contrary to the beliefs of Libertarian hardliners & Communist hardliners, the Hybrid system AKA Social Democracy, or Fascism, etc. seems to bring about the least poverty.

Yes, we know Communism stunted North Korea vs South Korea, and also East Germany vs West Germany.

Likewise, we see a lot of economic stagnation in Third-World countries, which tend to have Low Taxes.

See my thread below.

Shitholes have low taxes, almost always.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I don't think right wingers hate the poor. I think they just don't care about the poor enough to try to help them. It's easy for them to just pretend the poor don't exist, and they hate anything that forces them to acknowledge what the poor have to endure.

Charity is a personal moral issue, subject to individual choice.

It is not the venue of a government playing a cartoon Robin Hood with guns, no matter how good the intentions. There is no mandate granting such authority in the US Constitution, nor in any state constitution of which I'm aware.

If you take money by force from one individual to give it to another individual, it's theft.

Likewise, then why isn't Military, Police, Fire dept, Border-Security, and so forth "Individual rights"?????????

I tend to think that Civilization & Preservation requires quite a bit of Taxation, Collectivism, Planning, and Control.

I never said I'm for Small Government, but my thread is merely a critique of many Republicans who claim such.

 

[danielpalos]

I fail to see how Republicans are particularly for Small Government.

Especially when they often think the U.S.A must spend more & more on Military spending, apparently it's not enough that 48% of the World's Military budget was by the U.S.A.

They'll think the extreme Minority of Terrorists who only make up a very small amount of Premature deaths in the West, somehow justifies a bunch of Big Government measures, like War, Homeland Security, Patriot Act, they're
going to give up their freedom in the Patriot Act, so the Terrorists don't win, Same with the Planes, a bunch of Security measures which take away our Privacy, or else the Terrorists win.

Many Republicans think we need more & more Police, that's more Big Government.

Then there's Republicans pushing for SOPA like Lamar Smith, which is another Big Government step against Freedom.

Then there's that many Republicans think the Government should step up harsher against Drugs we need more Big Government to crack down & even imprison drug users,
or
Against Refugees, and Illegal Immigrants, we need more Big Government to secure the Border with more Guards & a Big Wall.

Then there's Republicans looking to crack down on Abortion & Pornography... More Big Government.



But, then all of a sudden, Helping the poor get Healthcare, BIG GOVERNMENT Commies.

It's pretty obvious that Republicans don't hate Big Government, but that rather they hate the Poor.

The Poor are really not capitally worth it to the right wing.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I don't think right wingers hate the poor. I think they just don't care about the poor enough to try to help them. It's easy for them to just pretend the poor don't exist, and they hate anything that forces them to acknowledge what the poor have to endure.

Charity is a personal moral issue, subject to individual choice.

It is not the venue of a government playing a cartoon Robin Hood with guns, no matter how good the intentions. There is no mandate granting such authority in the US Constitution, nor in any state constitution of which I'm aware.

If you take money by force from one individual to give it to another individual, it's theft.

Likewise, then why isn't Military, Police, Fire dept, Border-Security, and so forth "Individual rights"?

Nope, it's promoting the General Welfare, which supports society as a whole, not as charity to individuals.

 

[WillMunny]

Your question is loaded and completely irrelevant, being the Eurotrash, Islam-fellatrix, American-hating cocksuckers your Coward Continent of Europe is. Why don't you Euro parasites have enough courtesy to die of another bubonic plague or world war or something? Your current, malignant European parasite existence serves no useful purpose to humanity whatsoever. Your ultimate motive, you swine, is freeloading off the USA for every advantage you possibly can while cursing our existence at the same time, you Hitler-surrendering, Islam rentboy Zeropean embarrassment to the human race.

 

[danielpalos]

I don't think right wingers hate the poor. I think they just don't care about the poor enough to try to help them. It's easy for them to just pretend the poor don't exist, and they hate anything that forces them to acknowledge what the poor have to endure.

Charity is a personal moral issue, subject to individual choice.

It is not the venue of a government playing a cartoon Robin Hood with guns, no matter how good the intentions. There is no mandate granting such authority in the US Constitution, nor in any state constitution of which I'm aware.

If you take money by force from one individual to give it to another individual, it's theft.

Likewise, then why isn't Military, Police, Fire dept, Border-Security, and so forth "Individual rights"?

Nope, it's promoting the General Welfare, which supports society as a whole, not as charity to individuals.

Our welfare clause is general and must cover any contingency.

 

[whitehall]

In about 250 years the United States has relied in a stable economy to support the changing statistical definition of the "middle class" and the "poor". Americans realize that jobs are the secret rather than government handouts but the socialist left never seem to get the message. Under President Trump the GDP made over 4% after the worst stagnation in history where Obama never hit 3% in a yearly GDP average in eight years. Obama told the "poor" that they should be ready for more hard times because "factory jobs are gone" and they ain't coming back. Republican President Trump brought the jobs back and unemployment is at a historic low. Exempting the angry international left that has become a tool of foreign propaganda, what's not to like about President Trump?

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

I dont think they hate the poor but they definitely love big govt

Only the rinos. This is a battle between conservatives and progressives in BOTH parties. Being "republican" doesn't mean you're necessarily conservative or smaller government, nut you'll find ZERO limited government Democrats. ZERO.

 

[danielpalos]

In about 250 years the United States has relied in a stable economy to support the changing statistical definition of the "middle class" and the "poor". Americans realize that jobs are the secret rather than government handouts but the socialist left never seem to get the message. Under President Trump the GDP made over 4% after the worst stagnation in history where Obama never hit 3% in a yearly GDP average in eight years. Obama told the "poor" that they should be ready for more hard times because "factory jobs are gone" and they ain't coming back. Republican President Trump brought the jobs back and unemployment is at a historic low. Exempting the angry international left that has become a tool of foreign propaganda, what's not to like about President Trump?

taking credit for an upward trend is what the right wing does best.

What specific policies helped boost our already upwardly trending economy?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Your question is loaded and completely irrelevant, being the Eurotrash, Islam-fellatrix, American-hating cocksuckers your Coward Continent of Europe is. Why don't you Euro parasites have enough courtesy to die of another bubonic plague or world war or something? Your current, malignant European parasite existence serves no useful purpose to humanity whatsoever. Your ultimate motive, you swine, is freeloading off the USA for every advantage you possibly can while cursing our existence at the same time, you Hitler-surrendering, Islam rentboy Zeropean embarrassment to the human race.

You sound like a Retarded Monkey.