Republicans are wasting their time on Santorum

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There is no way in hell he would come close to beating Obama.

Romney is their only hope.
 
I tend to agree with this OP. Romney is the only hope as it stands now. Being about 10 leagues to the right of Ghengis Khan, Romney is the only chance now, especially if things continue to drift the other way for the "The Great Black Hope"......

Sad, but that is the way its shaping up.

Robert
 
Santorum could POSSIBLY win the GOP nomination - but there is NO WAY he could ever win the General Election. NO WAY!!!!! He has waaaay too much baggage. I doubt he could even carry his home state of Pennsylvania (they overwhelmingly voted him out of the U.S. Senate).
 
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Santorum could POSSIBLY win the GOP nomination - but there is NO WAY he could ever win the General Election. NO WAY!!!!! He has waaaay too much baggage.

Yeah, he is waaaay to Right to appeal to anyone on the Left.
 
I just heard in passing yesterday that Santorum is again surging in the polls.

I hope it's true but Mitt must be beside himself wondering what he ever did to deserve this treatment from Republicans. He simply must be tired of beating these morons down only to face yet another idiot surging in the polls.

:cuckoo:
 
There is no way in hell he would come close to beating Obama.

Romney is their only hope.

You've listed yourself as a moderate liberal.

Why should I listen to you?

The hypothetical polls speak for themselves.

Who cares?

The game is to hold the House and take the Senate.

What has to be done is to stop this madness called the Executive.

Obama can run around the White House playing pretend in Grecian togas with all the Ionic pillars he wants, I don't care.

He's bitch slapped by Valerie and Michelle on a daily basis.

Unelected but ruling the President.
 
You've listed yourself as a moderate liberal.

Why should I listen to you?

The hypothetical polls speak for themselves.

Who cares?

The game is to hold the House and take the Senate.

What has to be done is to stop this madness called the Executive.

Obama can run around the White House playing pretend in Grecian togas with all the Ionic pillars he wants, I don't care.

He's bitch slapped by Valerie and Michelle on a daily basis.

Unelected but ruling the President.

Um, okay. :cuckoo:
 
I agree...The center will NEVER go for Santorum as they don't wish to stop having sex. Yes, I'm against Abortion, but not against proventing conception. 80 percent of this country will go crazy and will never vote for Santorum...I can understand the church not wanting to go against their beliefs, but the avg joe thinks differently.

Santorum is also a big government republican in the likeness of Bush. We're screwed if we nominate him.
 
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Let me see if I understand you guys correctly:

Santorum is unelectable in a general because of his baggage, but Obama is completely electable despite his?

I mean Obama is already starting at a disadvantage in this cycle. The Census has shived EC votes to traditionally conservative states. He isn't a clean slate and can't skate by with the "Hope & Change" mantra. Our money is worth less than it was when he was elected. Our debts & deficits are higher. Energy & Food are more expensive. Lots of people are still unemployed. He and Biden are a gaffe machine. He signed a bill authorizing the detention of American citizens without a trial. He has communists in his administration. His administration is attempting to violate the First Amendment on multiple fronts. His administration is proposing a "global tax". And his campaign just started a Wilsonian propaganda machine.

You think the fact that Santorum & Romney believe strongly in God is strong baggage? You think support for religious freedom and the family are strong baggage? And if you do believe it's strong, do you really think it outweighs Obama's problems?

Yes. Obama can win the election. Anyone who is running, in theory, can. In fact, I give Obama 50/50 chances of winning. But if you think he is going to win reelection despite realities on the ground just because polls sometimes show him as more likeable than the Republicans, then you are deluding yourselves. I sure as heck like a lot of people that I wouldn't trust with my money or leading my nation.

You can complain about the Republican candidates all you want. I do. But you can't pretend Obama is unbeatable and has absolutely no baggage.
 
I agree...The center will NEVER go for Santorum as they don't wish to stop having sex. Yes, I'm against Abortion, but not against proventing conception. 80 percent of this country will go crazy and will never vote for Santorum...I can understand the church not wanting to go against their beliefs, but the avg joe thinks differently.

Santorum is also a big government republican in the likeness of Bush. We're screwed if we nominate him.

Santorum isn't for preventing contraception. You help them when you spread lies like that.
 
Let me see if I understand you guys correctly:

Santorum is unelectable in a general because of his baggage, but Obama is completely electable despite his?

I mean Obama is already starting at a disadvantage in this cycle. The Census has shived EC votes to traditionally conservative states. He isn't a clean slate and can't skate by with the "Hope & Change" mantra. Our money is worth less than it was when he was elected. Our debts & deficits are higher. Energy & Food are more expensive. Lots of people are still unemployed. He and Biden are a gaffe machine. He signed a bill authorizing the detention of American citizens without a trial. He has communists in his administration. His administration is attempting to violate the First Amendment on multiple fronts. His administration is proposing a "global tax". And his campaign just started a Wilsonian propaganda machine.

You think the fact that Santorum & Romney believe strongly in God is strong baggage? You think support for religious freedom and the family are strong baggage? And if you do believe it's strong, do you really think it outweighs Obama's problems?

Yes. Obama can win the election. Anyone who is running, in theory, can. In fact, I give Obama 50/50 chances of winning. But if you think he is going to win reelection despite realities on the ground just because polls sometimes show him as more likeable than the Republicans, then you are deluding yourselves. I sure as heck like a lot of people that I wouldn't trust with my money or leading my nation.

You can complain about the Republican candidates all you want. I do. But you can't pretend Obama is unbeatable and has absolutely no baggage.

I am largely basing this on the results of numerous hypothetical polls between Santorum and Obama. Obama's baggage is not an issue if Santorum wins the nomination as most people favor Obama over Santorum.

Romney on the other hand, has a fighting chance against Obama. In most hypothetical polls, they are tied.

I actually have a lot of respect for Santorum. Despite my disagreement with basically everything he says, he has more integrity than all of the other repub candidates combined.
 
There is no way in hell he would come close to beating Obama.

Romney is their only hope.

Did you ever notice that whenever a real conservative actually pulls a little ahead of the Weird Mormon Robot, liberals feel the need to come out and praise him.

I'd give Santorum a better chance than Romney.

There are two kinds of swing voters out there. The ones who are pro-business, college educated, don't care that much about social issues and can swing back and forth.

And the ones who are working class, care about guns, God and gays, but don't really trust Republicans because they are for the rich.

A lot of both groups gave Obama a shot in 2008. The former group is responsive to Romney, but the latter group is responsive to Santorum.

The difference is that Romney can't bring out the conservatives, but Santorum can.

Also, Santorum is more likable. Romney. Well, the more people get to know him, the less they like him.
 
Let me see if I understand you guys correctly:

Santorum is unelectable in a general because of his baggage, but Obama is completely electable despite his?

I mean Obama is already starting at a disadvantage in this cycle. The Census has shived EC votes to traditionally conservative states. He isn't a clean slate and can't skate by with the "Hope & Change" mantra. Our money is worth less than it was when he was elected. Our debts & deficits are higher. Energy & Food are more expensive. Lots of people are still unemployed. He and Biden are a gaffe machine. He signed a bill authorizing the detention of American citizens without a trial. He has communists in his administration. His administration is attempting to violate the First Amendment on multiple fronts. His administration is proposing a "global tax". And his campaign just started a Wilsonian propaganda machine.

You think the fact that Santorum & Romney believe strongly in God is strong baggage? You think support for religious freedom and the family are strong baggage? And if you do believe it's strong, do you really think it outweighs Obama's problems?

Yes. Obama can win the election. Anyone who is running, in theory, can. In fact, I give Obama 50/50 chances of winning. But if you think he is going to win reelection despite realities on the ground just because polls sometimes show him as more likeable than the Republicans, then you are deluding yourselves. I sure as heck like a lot of people that I wouldn't trust with my money or leading my nation.

You can complain about the Republican candidates all you want. I do. But you can't pretend Obama is unbeatable and has absolutely no baggage.

I think when you say ridiculous shit like "communists" in the adminstration, you really can't be taken seriously.

Obama doesn't have to win all the states he won in 2008. All he has to do is carry all the states John kerry won and either Ohio or Florida.

Ohio and Florida both have massively unpopular GOP governors. GOP turnout was depressed in Florida and Romney got less votes there than he got in 2008.

Romney's unelectable because he has a bizarre religion, he made his money screwing over working folks, and overall he's just not likable. With maybe the exception of Nixon, Americans have never really elected a president they didn't think was a likable person.

(And in Nixon's case, he got elected because people were turning on the hippies and wanted someone who'd kick their asses.)
 
Well we could say Obama is a waste of time for Democrats.

but since you have no one else to choose from, you're stuck with him.
 
As a Pennsylvanian I have to say the man is repugnant and that is a word I'd use sparingly. Everyone who lives in the real world knows gay people, but to hear him refer to these fellow Americans is to run for a barf bag. Now can he, will he, change that stupid and ridiculous attitude, I doubt it as that is who he is.

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"From these quotes, we can tell that Rick Santorum is a Christian Right Wing zealot who is obsessed with violating our personal lives and privacy. He would restrict women, outlaw homosexuality, ban birth control, tell unmarried couples what they can and cannot do, would throw senior citizens into poverty, thinks Americans should suffer, and he would enter America into even more wars. He is a Bible obsessed buffoon who has no grasp on American history, believes the Bush policies are worth continuing, and to top it all off, he’s a hypocrite. Rick Santorum is a frothy mixture of hate, bigotry, stupidity, insanity, and danger that America doesn’t ever need." from above link
 

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