Republican abuse of the filibuster

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    It's pretty bad but filibuster reform will never happen, no one wants to give up the only weapon the minority has in congress. It's also too bad that it has come to such a horrible pass, that a tactic that was once saved for important stuff is now used uniformly to make the other party look bad at the expense of the country. GOP uber alles.
     
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    Your boy Barry should have thought of that before he blurted you "You got to ride in the back of the bus."

    The biggest probelm Obama has is that he tries to pretend 2010 didn't happen.
     
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    Nothing President Obama has done was anything near what the Republicans and Bush did to Democrats between 2001 - 2006. And Democrats (who I think were spineless), quietly excepted a good deal of Bush policy, lest they be called traitors.
     
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    They were traitors.

    They went along with a war they didn't agree with when the polls said it was popular and sandbagged it when they said it was not.

    And in ten years, when the shit really hits the fan over there, expect the GOP to hit these jokers with a "Stabbed in the Back" claim. Kind of like Reagan was able to do after Vietnam.
     
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    That doesn't make them traitors..that makes them spineless. And given the very clever way that the Bush/Cheney administration cherry picked and lied about intel..and merged it with patriotic fervor..it would have required a good deal of backbone to oppose it.
     
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    .... and the majority of Dems in Congress did.

    As the house of cards that was the case for Iraq fell apart, so did it's support.
     
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    Oh, horseshit. Any Democrat who said that he was 'fooled' by intel (actually the same intel Clinton had that they came to the same conclusion about) should resign immediately, as they are not up to the job.

    They supported the war as a POLITICAL consideration. 70% of people in 2002 thought Saddam had something to do with 9/11. An impression both parties were happy to foster. That was the ONLY evidence they looked at.

    Democrats in tough races voted for the war. Ones who were safe voted against it. It was all calculation. And if you really think it was otherwise, you are delusional.

    When the war became unpopular, then they were all, "Well, I had no idea that the intelligence wasn't up there" when in fact, every caveat we heard about in 2005 was there for 2002.

    And let's be honest, the only Democrat who nearly lost his job for supporting the war was Joe Leiberman, because he ignored the memo.
     
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    If the Democrats had a bone in their collective spine, maybe we could have avoided iraq altogether. They did not because they are a politically motivated, morally devoid party with no compass to guide them save re-election.

    The Republicans disagree with the Big 0 and are opposing what he is trying to do.

    Their opposition was not sufficient when the Dems had filibuster proof supermajorities in both houses, but it is now.

    When the majority is working against the will of the Minority, the Minority can assert its beliefs or can just kiss ass as the Dems did.

    The Democrat Party is truly a despicable party of political hacks.
     
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