Reparations, Racism & Affirmative Action

[IM2]

I think we all know there are many ways to be disadvantaged that have nothing to do the merits of the individual.

and yet you post none of them,,,

Apparently I gave you too much credit:

• Not getting a job interview because your name 'sounds' Black
• Not getting to attend a good school because your parents live in a poor neighborhood
• Not getting a good education because your parents didn't get one and don't know the value of it
  
• Not getting to inherit wealth because you family faced discrimination in the past

you just made those up didnt you???
you are losing it,

those are culture problems not black problems,,

and I as a white person lived with all of them except the black name

White racism exists and the fact that your name sounded whites so you had a better shot at getting a job seems to be a very important thing you dismiss.

thats racist,,,and just more proof youre a racist,,,

There was nothing racist in that comment.

 

[progressive hunter]

If Blacks ever got reparations in the form of cash payments the majority of Americans would be appalled and disgusted...including most African Americans....
So bring it on....and watch the dems sink future into the abyss....

AA is reparations. I think AA is fine if carefully targeted. Too much creates a backlash.

There must be a time limit to affirmative action or it quickly becomes a negative action that will need to be affirmed in the future....

When racist white preferences end AA can end. Seems like nobody is asking for time limits on that.

What racist white preferences?...be specific so we can all see how foolish your cries and complaints are....

How far back to you want me to start? Because I can start with headrights.

enlighten us,,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

and yet you post none of them,,,

Apparently I gave you too much credit:

• Not getting a job interview because your name 'sounds' Black
• Not getting to attend a good school because your parents live in a poor neighborhood
• Not getting a good education because your parents didn't get one and don't know the value of it
  
• Not getting to inherit wealth because you family faced discrimination in the past

you just made those up didnt you???
you are losing it,

those are culture problems not black problems,,

and I as a white person lived with all of them except the black name

White racism exists and the fact that your name sounded whites so you had a better shot at getting a job seems to be a very important thing you dismiss.

thats racist,,,and just more proof youre a racist,,,

There was nothing racist in that comment.

yes there was,,,its all racist and you know it,,,

youre a racist so stop denying it

 

[IM2]

If Blacks ever got reparations in the form of cash payments the majority of Americans would be appalled and disgusted...including most African Americans....
So bring it on....and watch the dems sink future into the abyss....

Why would African Americans who are the people asking for reparations be appalled and disgusted?

Why do you low rent, dumb, white racist imbeciles think you can speak for blacks?

Because most people black and white have too much pride to take it....guess that doesn't include you....

To take money owed to us?

 

[Rambunctious]

If Blacks ever got reparations in the form of cash payments the majority of Americans would be appalled and disgusted...including most African Americans....
So bring it on....and watch the dems sink future into the abyss....

AA is reparations. I think AA is fine if carefully targeted. Too much creates a backlash.

There must be a time limit to affirmative action or it quickly becomes a negative action that will need to be affirmed in the future....

When racist white preferences end AA can end. Seems like nobody is asking for time limits on that.

What racist white preferences?...be specific so we can all see how foolish your cries and complaints are....

How far back to you want me to start? Because I can start with headrights.

You made the accusation pal so don't ask me where you should start....get on with it...I'm waiting...just like I'm waiting for Old Lady to tell me why Trump is a racist...she ran from that challenge yesterday....you people a vacant in substance....

 

[IM2]

Apparently I gave you too much credit:

• Not getting a job interview because your name 'sounds' Black
• Not getting to attend a good school because your parents live in a poor neighborhood
• Not getting a good education because your parents didn't get one and don't know the value of it
  
• Not getting to inherit wealth because you family faced discrimination in the past

you just made those up didnt you???
you are losing it,

those are culture problems not black problems,,

and I as a white person lived with all of them except the black name

White racism exists and the fact that your name sounded whites so you had a better shot at getting a job seems to be a very important thing you dismiss.

thats racist,,,and just more proof youre a racist,,,

There was nothing racist in that comment.

yes there was,,,its all racist and you know it,,,

youre a racist so stop denying it

I suppose you can explain how this fits the definition of racism.

 

[Rambunctious]

If Blacks ever got reparations in the form of cash payments the majority of Americans would be appalled and disgusted...including most African Americans....
So bring it on....and watch the dems sink future into the abyss....

Why would African Americans who are the people asking for reparations be appalled and disgusted?

Why do you low rent, dumb, white racist imbeciles think you can speak for blacks?

Because most people black and white have too much pride to take it....guess that doesn't include you....

To take money owed to us?

How much do I owe you....

 

[progressive hunter]

you just made those up didnt you???
you are losing it,

those are culture problems not black problems,,

and I as a white person lived with all of them except the black name

White racism exists and the fact that your name sounded whites so you had a better shot at getting a job seems to be a very important thing you dismiss.

thats racist,,,and just more proof youre a racist,,,

There was nothing racist in that comment.

yes there was,,,its all racist and you know it,,,

youre a racist so stop denying it

I suppose you can explain how this fits the definition of racism.

yes I can,,,

 

[irosie91]

Life is NOT FAIR------I am short and left handed

So were laws and policies made for 189 years the excluded short left handed people from equal opportunity?

...

Yeah, that's what I thought.

yes----I had to have special permission to join the NAVY---and got in
only because of my NEEDED profession. I tried to join a professional
basket ball team-----but that did not work out. When dad got sick and left
mom with 5 kids----my eldest brother had to walk to a DISTANT golf course to be a caddy ------because the local place was RESTRICTED -------but he got to caddy for Jackie Robinson, isn't that nice?
My brother actually hitchhiked----but don't tell anyone---it was illegal.
Laws ALLOWED "restricted" places for all kinds of people-----not just
"coloreds" Does anyone OWE him money?

 

[alang1216]

I think we all know there are many ways to be disadvantaged that have nothing to do the merits of the individual.

and yet you post none of them,,,

Apparently I gave you too much credit:

• Not getting a job interview because your name 'sounds' Black
• Not getting to attend a good school because your parents live in a poor neighborhood
• Not getting a good education because your parents didn't get one and don't know the value of it
  
• Not getting to inherit wealth because you family faced discrimination in the past

you just made those up didnt you???
you are losing it,

those are culture problems not black problems,,

and I as a white person lived with all of them except the black name

Unfortunately I didn't have to make any of them up. My father in his youth got a good job that probably would not have gone to an equally qualified Black man. My parents bought a house that later soared in value, in a neighborhood a Black family couldn't buy into.

Some portion of the poverty of Black families today in the US stems from our history of discrimination. Can anyone argue that is not true?

 

[progressive hunter]

I think we all know there are many ways to be disadvantaged that have nothing to do the merits of the individual.

and yet you post none of them,,,

Apparently I gave you too much credit:

• Not getting a job interview because your name 'sounds' Black
• Not getting to attend a good school because your parents live in a poor neighborhood
• Not getting a good education because your parents didn't get one and don't know the value of it
  
• Not getting to inherit wealth because you family faced discrimination in the past

you just made those up didnt you???
you are losing it,

those are culture problems not black problems,,

and I as a white person lived with all of them except the black name

Unfortunately I didn't have to make any of them up. My father in his youth got a good job that probably would not have gone to an equally qualified Black man. My parents bought a house that later soared in value, in a neighborhood a Black family couldn't buy into.

Some portion of the poverty of Black families today in the US stems from our history of discrimination. Can anyone argue that is not true?

so you have to use the way back machine to find a problem that no longer exist,,,

got it,,

 

[IM2]

AA is reparations. I think AA is fine if carefully targeted. Too much creates a backlash.

There must be a time limit to affirmative action or it quickly becomes a negative action that will need to be affirmed in the future....

When racist white preferences end AA can end. Seems like nobody is asking for time limits on that.

What racist white preferences?...be specific so we can all see how foolish your cries and complaints are....

How far back to you want me to start? Because I can start with headrights.

You made the accusation pal so don't ask me where you should start....get on with it...I'm waiting...just like I'm waiting for Old Lady to tell me why Trump is a racist...she ran from that challenge yesterday....you people a vacant in substance....

I was just asking you where you wanted to start because as an official country it was written into the constitution

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution it says:

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.”

Don't fuck around and get embarrassed chump. I don't know what your illiterate white ass calls the years of slavery until 1965, but I call it 189 years of legalized white racial preference.

 

[progressive hunter]

There must be a time limit to affirmative action or it quickly becomes a negative action that will need to be affirmed in the future....

When racist white preferences end AA can end. Seems like nobody is asking for time limits on that.

What racist white preferences?...be specific so we can all see how foolish your cries and complaints are....

How far back to you want me to start? Because I can start with headrights.

You made the accusation pal so don't ask me where you should start....get on with it...I'm waiting...just like I'm waiting for Old Lady to tell me why Trump is a racist...she ran from that challenge yesterday....you people a vacant in substance....

I was just asking you where you wanted to start because as an official country it was written into the constitution

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution it says:

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.”

Don't fuck around and get embarrassed chump. I don't know what your illiterate white ass calls the years of slavery until 1965, but I call it 189 years of legalized white racial preference.

your ignorant as well as a racist,,,

 

[alang1216]

I think we all know there are many ways to be disadvantaged that have nothing to do the merits of the individual.

and yet you post none of them,,,

Apparently I gave you too much credit:

• Not getting a job interview because your name 'sounds' Black
• Not getting to attend a good school because your parents live in a poor neighborhood
• Not getting a good education because your parents didn't get one and don't know the value of it
  
• Not getting to inherit wealth because you family faced discrimination in the past

you just made those up didnt you???
you are losing it,

those are culture problems not black problems,,

and I as a white person lived with all of them except the black name

Unfortunately I didn't have to make any of them up. My father in his youth got a good job that probably would not have gone to an equally qualified Black man. My parents bought a house that later soared in value, in a neighborhood a Black family couldn't buy into.

Some portion of the poverty of Black families today in the US stems from our history of discrimination. Can anyone argue that is not true?

so you have to use the way back machine to find a problem that no longer exist,,,

got it,,

Way back to my father? He managed to leave me a chunk of money that benefits me and my family to this very day. What I've given to my kids came, at least in part, from what I got from my parents.

 

[IM2]

I think we all know there are many ways to be disadvantaged that have nothing to do the merits of the individual.

and yet you post none of them,,,

Apparently I gave you too much credit:

• Not getting a job interview because your name 'sounds' Black
• Not getting to attend a good school because your parents live in a poor neighborhood
• Not getting a good education because your parents didn't get one and don't know the value of it
  
• Not getting to inherit wealth because you family faced discrimination in the past

you just made those up didnt you???
you are losing it,

those are culture problems not black problems,,

and I as a white person lived with all of them except the black name

Unfortunately I didn't have to make any of them up. My father in his youth got a good job that probably would not have gone to an equally qualified Black man. My parents bought a house that later soared in value, in a neighborhood a Black family couldn't buy into.

Some portion of the poverty of Black families today in the US stems from our history of discrimination. Can anyone argue that is not true?

so you have to use the way back machine to find a problem that no longer exist,,,

got it,,

The problem still exists. You however, subscribe to-

The Teflon Theory of American History says that anything that took place over 30 years ago is Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on the present. Or not much. Unless it was something good like the light bulb or the Declaration of Independence. Therefore those who make a big deal of the bad stuff in the past, like slavery, are Living in the Past and need to Get Over It.

For example:

Jim Crow laws were overturned by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. Therefore according to Teflon Theory the Jim Crow period is now Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on how White Americans alive today think and act. None whatsoever. Or not much. So racism is pretty much dead.

Instead of Jim Crow’s effect slowly weakening over time like you would expect, Teflon Theory would have you suppose that it just disappeared like magic one afternoon sometime in the late 1960s. Even though many White Americans alive now were alive back in Jim Crow times. Even though many others were brought up and shaped by those who were alive back then: parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, writers, film directors, television producers, news editors and so on.

Few sit on a mountain top to come up with their beliefs all on their own. Instead most people pretty much go along with what everyone else already believes with maybe a few twists here and there. Such beliefs come from the past.

So then why is Teflon Theory believed?

• Because of how American history is taught:
  • American history is taught as dates and people and facts that have little to do with each other. Sometimes the Effects of the the Civil War or Industrialization are studied, for example, but not so for the evil stuff – like how slavery and genocide led to present-day White American wealth, power and racism.
  • American history as taught rarely comes up to the present day. History becomes something in the past, in a book, not something we live in right now.
• Because of the needs of White American self-image:
  • White Americans want to think they are Basically Good and their society is Basically Just. Without Teflon Theory that becomes laughable since it flies in the face of history, common sense and human nature.
  • White Americans avoid honestly facing up to their past because deep down they know it is ugly. Teflon Theory acts as a guard against having to take it seriously.
• Because middle-class whites are protected from the ugly present:
  • Those who live in Apple-pie America rarely see first-hand the injustice that their comfortable lives are built on. And what injustice they do see on occasion, like black ghettos or wars on television fought overseas in their name, they have already learned to not see as injustice. But being protected from the ugly present makes the ugly past seem like another world, like it truly is ancient history with no bearing on the present.

 

[Pilot1]

Yes whites get preferential treatment. Human nature should allow you to understand how laws gave whites exclusive advantages which extended into our life time and how long whites have been afforded preferential treatment. Instead you have purposefully ignored all that to incorrectly describe a policy as well as an incorrect perception of unfair treatment. AA is not reparations for blacks as whites are part of the policy and have benefited the most.

I don't dispute there is racism and discrimination in our past and to this day and AA is meant to offset that, in other words, reparations. Blacks may be the victims but they are not the only victims so they are not the only group that should receive reparations so AA applies to all groups that were/are disadvantaged.

when you say disadvantaged are you saying they are to dumb to do it on their own merits??

cause joe biden said poor people are just as smart as white and Asian people

That's exactly what they are saying. Progressive Whites view minorities, especially Blacks as inferior, with no ability to make it on their own. Their White Guilt controls them. Blacks were making huge strides in the 1950's until the LBJ Admin created the War on Poverty, and Great Society that destroyed the Black family unit.

 

[IM2]

When racist white preferences end AA can end. Seems like nobody is asking for time limits on that.

What racist white preferences?...be specific so we can all see how foolish your cries and complaints are....

How far back to you want me to start? Because I can start with headrights.

You made the accusation pal so don't ask me where you should start....get on with it...I'm waiting...just like I'm waiting for Old Lady to tell me why Trump is a racist...she ran from that challenge yesterday....you people a vacant in substance....

I was just asking you where you wanted to start because as an official country it was written into the constitution

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution it says:

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.”

Don't fuck around and get embarrassed chump. I don't know what your illiterate white ass calls the years of slavery until 1965, but I call it 189 years of legalized white racial preference.

your ignorant as well as a racist,,,

Another white racist bites the dust.

 

[IM2]

Yes whites get preferential treatment. Human nature should allow you to understand how laws gave whites exclusive advantages which extended into our life time and how long whites have been afforded preferential treatment. Instead you have purposefully ignored all that to incorrectly describe a policy as well as an incorrect perception of unfair treatment. AA is not reparations for blacks as whites are part of the policy and have benefited the most.

I don't dispute there is racism and discrimination in our past and to this day and AA is meant to offset that, in other words, reparations. Blacks may be the victims but they are not the only victims so they are not the only group that should receive reparations so AA applies to all groups that were/are disadvantaged.

when you say disadvantaged are you saying they are to dumb to do it on their own merits??

cause joe biden said poor people are just as smart as white and Asian people

That's exactly what they are saying. Progressive Whites view minorities, especially Blacks as inferior, with no ability to make it on their own. Their White Guilt controls them. Blacks were making huge strides in the 1950's until the LBJ Admin created the War on Poverty, and Great Society that destroyed the Black family unit.

Blacks had a 55 percent rate of poverty then. STHU.

 

[IM2]

Yes whites get preferential treatment. Human nature should allow you to understand how laws gave whites exclusive advantages which extended into our life time and how long whites have been afforded preferential treatment. Instead you have purposefully ignored all that to incorrectly describe a policy as well as an incorrect perception of unfair treatment. AA is not reparations for blacks as whites are part of the policy and have benefited the most.

I don't dispute there is racism and discrimination in our past and to this day and AA is meant to offset that, in other words, reparations. Blacks may be the victims but they are not the only victims so they are not the only group that should receive reparations so AA applies to all groups that were/are disadvantaged.

Native Americans have got monetary reparations.

Japanese got monetary reparations.

Black have not.

 

[progressive hunter]

and yet you post none of them,,,

Apparently I gave you too much credit:

• Not getting a job interview because your name 'sounds' Black
• Not getting to attend a good school because your parents live in a poor neighborhood
• Not getting a good education because your parents didn't get one and don't know the value of it
  
• Not getting to inherit wealth because you family faced discrimination in the past

you just made those up didnt you???
you are losing it,

those are culture problems not black problems,,

and I as a white person lived with all of them except the black name

Unfortunately I didn't have to make any of them up. My father in his youth got a good job that probably would not have gone to an equally qualified Black man. My parents bought a house that later soared in value, in a neighborhood a Black family couldn't buy into.

Some portion of the poverty of Black families today in the US stems from our history of discrimination. Can anyone argue that is not true?

so you have to use the way back machine to find a problem that no longer exist,,,

got it,,

Way back to my father? He managed to leave me a chunk of money that benefits me and my family to this very day. What I've given to my kids came, at least in part, from what I got from my parents.

and???