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There is a question: How do you dissolve a government that is actively protecting its territorial sovereignty?
BDS speaker: Eliminate Zionism, rebutts AAUP and Finkelstein on academic boycotts
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BDS speaker: Eliminate Zionism, rebutts AAUP and Finkelstein on academic boycotts
IMPLIED threat something that muslims are found of using to excuse their violent behaviour and terrorism.
If implied means you just made up a lie - yes
Read your koran it is explained in there, if you don't understand it read the hadiths. It goes something like " if you believe or perceive any transgression against islam or the muslims then you are commanded to take action including violence to gain restitution"
fanger, et al,
That is an excellent question!
News and Views about the Economy of Palestine
During the Ottoman regime, the fellaheen's economic situation was continuously precarious. The prosecution of World War I in Palestine added to the economic problems of all segments of the population. In the 1920s, during the first decade of the British Mandate, Palestine's agricultural sector did not fair well except for plantation and cash crops such as citrus and bananas. In the early 1930s before the peasant suffered five consecutive years of poor crop yields, many villagers were disillusioned by their financial difficulties; they were no longer making efforts to extricate themselves from their indebtedness to the government and moneylenders.2 In the mid-1930s, the civil unrest in Palestine further impaired the Arab rural economy. Eventually the peasant became exhausted and was beaten by forces beyond his ken or control.
Beginning in the nineteenth century or earlier, the peasant steadily became economically reliant and politically dependent upon others who gradually gained irretrievable control over his future. Classic patron-client relationships were formed. These ties were solidified and reinforced over time, with the notable elite acting as intermediaries between "government" and the peasantry. In matters pertaining to land the peasant's illiteracy made him depend upon spokesmen in coping with administrative matters like tax payment. During the early years of British rule in Palestine, the peasantry had little interest in politics yet desired changes in the rural economy which would lead to its improvement, without greatly altering customary agricultural procedures and practices. 3 Thus the Arab political arena during the British Mandate was ultimately left to those who had landowning interests, including urban merchants, professionals, religious leaders, village sheikhs, mukhtars, and local government officials. Together this elite numbered perhaps no more than several thousand out of a total Muslim and Christian population of 769,813; the rural Arabs constituted approximately two-thirds of the total Arab population of Palestine in 1931.4
Prior to 1948 and under the British Administration, the general economy of both the Arab and Jewish communities were slightly below average for the region.
After WWII (1945 on) there was a renewed focus on Palestine by the British to jump start the economy. However, the Arab-Jewish conflict reignited and the economy suffered for it.
In more recent and contemporary times, with the Israeli has had very great successes in their economy, having gradually worked its way up from one of the most disastrous economies to one of the world’s 34 most developed economies.
In terms of the West Bank and Gaza Strip the Quartet in conjunction with the EU, devised an international plan to support the Palestinian economy. However, it appears the plan was still hotly debated within the donor communities and the Quartet. The consensus was that the Palestinian economy was directly tied to the progress for peace in the region; that it was deterring investor from risking any more on the $4 Billion Dollar Plan until progress was made. Senior Palestinian officials attended the economic discussions on the sidelines of the annual UN General Assembly were unable to give and reasonable assurances that would promote further foreign investment.
The plan, proposed by Secretary of State John Kerry, aimed at boosting the Palestinian economy through a series of investment projects valued at ≈ $4 billion dollars.
The resumption of the peace talks, between the Palestinians and Israel, it gave rise to a revised Plan by Kerry, after months of shuttle diplomacy between the two sides. But as predicted, the Plan and donor commitments evaporated away, leaving Palestine critically dependent of pure donor grants.
Mohamed Abu Ramadan, the Palestinian Minister of Planning, who attended the Quartet meeting, expressed the view that the plan was welcomed by the Palestinians in principle --- due to the bad shape of their economy. Minister Ramadan stressed that to become a success, the plan has to be linked to progress in the peace process, pointing out that Israel's polices must have real practical changes "to ensure turning the plan from a strategic vision to a reality on the ground."
With the infusion of donor contributions, the growth of Palestine's GDP has been chaotic since the 1990's,
with the 10 year averaged -1.95 percent of GDP. By comparison, Israel's growth averaged nearly 5% per year, led by exports, for the 20 years. Israel's economy is rated as about $268B, whereas Palestine (West Bank & Gaza Strip) has a $20B economy.
Most Respectfully,
R
That is an excellent question!
News and Views about the Economy of Palestine
During the Ottoman regime, the fellaheen's economic situation was continuously precarious. The prosecution of World War I in Palestine added to the economic problems of all segments of the population. In the 1920s, during the first decade of the British Mandate, Palestine's agricultural sector did not fair well except for plantation and cash crops such as citrus and bananas. In the early 1930s before the peasant suffered five consecutive years of poor crop yields, many villagers were disillusioned by their financial difficulties; they were no longer making efforts to extricate themselves from their indebtedness to the government and moneylenders.2 In the mid-1930s, the civil unrest in Palestine further impaired the Arab rural economy. Eventually the peasant became exhausted and was beaten by forces beyond his ken or control.
Beginning in the nineteenth century or earlier, the peasant steadily became economically reliant and politically dependent upon others who gradually gained irretrievable control over his future. Classic patron-client relationships were formed. These ties were solidified and reinforced over time, with the notable elite acting as intermediaries between "government" and the peasantry. In matters pertaining to land the peasant's illiteracy made him depend upon spokesmen in coping with administrative matters like tax payment. During the early years of British rule in Palestine, the peasantry had little interest in politics yet desired changes in the rural economy which would lead to its improvement, without greatly altering customary agricultural procedures and practices. 3 Thus the Arab political arena during the British Mandate was ultimately left to those who had landowning interests, including urban merchants, professionals, religious leaders, village sheikhs, mukhtars, and local government officials. Together this elite numbered perhaps no more than several thousand out of a total Muslim and Christian population of 769,813; the rural Arabs constituted approximately two-thirds of the total Arab population of Palestine in 1931.4
2 Albert Abramson to Acting Chief Secretary of the Palestine Government, May 12, 1931, P.R.O., CO 733/207/87275.
3 Great Britain, P.R.O., CAB 24/165 1887, Herbert Samuel, "Palestine," February 25, 1924, P. 4; Lord Plumer, High Commissioner for Palestine, to Sir Leopold Amery, Secretary of State for the Colonies, April 22, 1926, I.S.A., M15/27A.
4 Palestine Government, Census for Palestine, 1931, vol. 1, pp. 96, 291-292. In 1931 there were 108,765 rural earners and 331,319 dependents. Of the earner category, 70,526 (65%) were cultivators, 32,539 (35%) were agricultural laborers, and 5,311 (5%) gained their livelihood from rents.
3 Great Britain, P.R.O., CAB 24/165 1887, Herbert Samuel, "Palestine," February 25, 1924, P. 4; Lord Plumer, High Commissioner for Palestine, to Sir Leopold Amery, Secretary of State for the Colonies, April 22, 1926, I.S.A., M15/27A.
4 Palestine Government, Census for Palestine, 1931, vol. 1, pp. 96, 291-292. In 1931 there were 108,765 rural earners and 331,319 dependents. Of the earner category, 70,526 (65%) were cultivators, 32,539 (35%) were agricultural laborers, and 5,311 (5%) gained their livelihood from rents.
(COMMENT)Was Palestine a thriving economy under a stable government before israel was invented?
Prior to 1948 and under the British Administration, the general economy of both the Arab and Jewish communities were slightly below average for the region.
After WWII (1945 on) there was a renewed focus on Palestine by the British to jump start the economy. However, the Arab-Jewish conflict reignited and the economy suffered for it.
In more recent and contemporary times, with the Israeli has had very great successes in their economy, having gradually worked its way up from one of the most disastrous economies to one of the world’s 34 most developed economies.
In terms of the West Bank and Gaza Strip the Quartet in conjunction with the EU, devised an international plan to support the Palestinian economy. However, it appears the plan was still hotly debated within the donor communities and the Quartet. The consensus was that the Palestinian economy was directly tied to the progress for peace in the region; that it was deterring investor from risking any more on the $4 Billion Dollar Plan until progress was made. Senior Palestinian officials attended the economic discussions on the sidelines of the annual UN General Assembly were unable to give and reasonable assurances that would promote further foreign investment.
The plan, proposed by Secretary of State John Kerry, aimed at boosting the Palestinian economy through a series of investment projects valued at ≈ $4 billion dollars.
The resumption of the peace talks, between the Palestinians and Israel, it gave rise to a revised Plan by Kerry, after months of shuttle diplomacy between the two sides. But as predicted, the Plan and donor commitments evaporated away, leaving Palestine critically dependent of pure donor grants.
Mohamed Abu Ramadan, the Palestinian Minister of Planning, who attended the Quartet meeting, expressed the view that the plan was welcomed by the Palestinians in principle --- due to the bad shape of their economy. Minister Ramadan stressed that to become a success, the plan has to be linked to progress in the peace process, pointing out that Israel's polices must have real practical changes "to ensure turning the plan from a strategic vision to a reality on the ground."
With the infusion of donor contributions, the growth of Palestine's GDP has been chaotic since the 1990's,
with the 10 year averaged -1.95 percent of GDP. By comparison, Israel's growth averaged nearly 5% per year, led by exports, for the 20 years. Israel's economy is rated as about $268B, whereas Palestine (West Bank & Gaza Strip) has a $20B economy.
Most Respectfully,
R
But you didn't say that did you, you said the dissolution of Israel a legal nation and the creation of an islamonazi terrorist state run on sharia.
No - you made that up as well.
Read the charters of hamas and fatah and see that they both say this. Did they just make it up for me ?
But suggesting that Israel be destroyed isn't? Racism is here for all to see
I said, "dissolved", a very different word.
Do you feel the need to lie as well, or are you just illiterate?
Same thing where you muslims are concerned as within 6 months the Jews would be going the same way as the Christians are now. A drop of 90% in their numbers over the last 10 years due to the genocide committed by hamas and fatah.
Suggesting Jews give up their Citizenship to become a " citizen" in a Muslim Country where they will always be the minority and never have any say in Govt isn't Racism ? GOSH
No, it isn't.
Expressing hate would be racism, accepting minorities into your country as equals is not.
But it is not your country is it, and it never was in reality. It is Israel and was granted to them under international law of the time, the arab muslims got trans Jordan . The Jews will never be seen by the muslims as their equals and before the year is out the muslims would have imposed full sharia law and made the Jews dhimmi's, those that would left alive of course after the bloodletting and murderfests of Ramadan and eid
C'mon Rocco, your American, you know how to say "Regime change"
Yep and there is no chance of that in Israel
Was Palestine a thriving economy under a stable government before israel was invented?
NO it was virtually barren with little in the way of agriculture. The arab leaders noted this and welcomed the Jewish methods that enhanced the arab muslims meagre methods of agriculture. The government was Ottoman and it was in a state of flux over the preceding 100 years with many fights on its hands in the area. Read the history of the Ottoman Empire and you will see this for a fact
Indofred, et al,
Yes they are different words.
DISSOLVE: To close down or dismiss an assembly or official body.
(COMMENT)But suggesting that Israel be destroyed isn't? Racism is here for all to see
I said, "dissolved", a very different word.
Do you feel the need to lie as well, or are you just illiterate?
This is the case of semantics. Dissolve --- Forced Deportation --- Change of Government. However you want to say it. It has not changed since 1948. Some threats are explicit and some are veiled threat; when Israel's existence is threatened without the Hostile Arab Palestinian actually articulating the nature of the threat; but, it can be understood what they really mean.
If you say by any mean other than force or coercion, then it is not a realistic option. Israel is not going to give up its territorial sovereignty without a fight. And, it will not merger with any Arab territorial entity that will demographically give the Arab a majority; such that it would jeopardize the intent of a Jewish Homeland.
- There is a question: How do you dissolve a government that is actively protecting its territorial sovereignty?
This has been threat that has been demonstrated a reality at three other times; 1948, 1967, and 1973. The Hostile Arab Palestinian, having a history of aggression against Israel and the Jewish Homeland, the intentions are very clear. As the successor government (UN Palestine Commission) has said: "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." The Arab Palestinian adopted The Khartoum Resolution passed by the Arab League in the wake of the 1967 war is famous for the "Three No's:"
And the Hostile Arab Palestinian still operates under those tenants.
- No peace with Israel,
- No recognition of Israel, and
- No negotiations with Israel.
Most Respectfully,
RThere is a question: How do you dissolve a government that is actively protecting its territorial sovereignty?
BDS speaker: Eliminate Zionism, rebutts AAUP and Finkelstein on academic boycotts
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Geeeee ILOVILOVBUTIFILOVLOVEDITWOULDBLOVEILOVILOVLOVE........When they move their Lips is a tired old one-linerWell the same can be said about Muslim and Christian Palestinians living in Israel and you are correct about these Palestinians (but in reverse)in you comment above.steven therefore by your own admission Israel is RACIST..you can't have it both ways ILOVIFULOVILOVIsnt that what the OP is saying as well and showing the true racism on this board is coming from the islamonazi scum
Suggesting Jews be welcomed into a state, with full citizenship and all the rights that go with it is racism?
GOSH
Suggesting Jews give up their Citizenship to become a " citizen" in a Muslim Country where they will always be the minority and never have any say in Govt isn't Racism ? GOSH
Sorry but you are a liar. Don't see any Pro Israeli suggesting anyone give up their Citizenship and turn their backs on their Country . Know when a Pro Palestinian is lying? When their lips move
What is wrong with you tonight(8.28 Mullaloo time)....Take a chill pill,have a good nights sleep ILOV........and maybe tomorrow ILOVWILLBLOVELY.
Why is it that I am a liar........................................................................when I don't speak with a forked tongue but only speak in truth.......something you should adhere to and your possee of Haters of everything Non Zionist
You should get a Psych evaluation and find out why you are Anti Semitic and why you believe that if you are not Pro Palestinian you are labeled a Hater . Let us know what the Doctor says
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But suggesting that Israel be destroyed isn't? Racism is here for all to see
I said, "dissolved", a very different word.
Do you feel the need to lie as well, or are you just illiterate?
What's the difference? Either way, it your wish is it will be destroyed and no longer exist
I believe the state of Israel is a bastard entity, unfit to exist.
That in mind, all Israelis should leave the land immediately or get a new passport as Palestinian citizens.
The Israeli government should be dissolved without delay, being succeeded by the Palestinian authority.
luckily no one cares what anti-Semite terrorist supporters think.
But suggesting that Israel be destroyed isn't? Racism is here for all to see
I said, "dissolved", a very different word.
Do you feel the need to lie as well, or are you just illiterate?
What's the difference? Either way, it your wish is it will be destroyed and no longer exist
that's what anti-Semite terrorist supports want.
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Suggesting Jews give up their Citizenship to become a " citizen" in a Muslim Country where they will always be the minority and never have any say in Govt isn't Racism ? GOSH
No, it isn't.
Expressing hate would be racism, accepting minorities into your country as equals is not.
Agree. Israelis would never be accepted into Palestine as equals
I
Indofred
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I believe the state of Israel is a bastard entity, unfit to exist.
That in mind, all Israelis should leave the land immediately or get a new passport as Palestinian citizens.
The Israeli government should be dissolved without delay, being succeeded by the Palestinian authority.
luckily no one cares what anti-Semite terrorist supporters think.
Ah, the old bullshit claiming anyone against the Israeli government is anti Jewish.
Perhaps you could explain how anti Israeli Jews are anti Semitic.
I await your answer.
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Well,firstly my prose is in response to the Pro_Zionist lobby on here who openly degrade all things Palestinian........you throw around all this Anti-Semite nonsense yet I am the Greatest Lover yet you Guys are the real Greatest Haters FACT,your actually the MOST ANTI-SEMITES being as Palestinians are a semitic people where as most Jews are not.......that's just for starters,you dislike folk that stand up to your motely crew......I see it in virtually every post you people make.......................I just give you Haters,you Anti Semites a bit of your own medicine ......trouble is you can't take it....yet expect us to.......It is a horrible form of Arrogance that you display......You and your ilk,give Jews a Bad Name.......for you are merely part of a destructive CULT called ZIONISM.Geeeee ILOVILOVBUTIFILOVLOVEDITWOULDBLOVEILOVILOVLOVE........When they move their Lips is a tired old one-linerWell the same can be said about Muslim and Christian Palestinians living in Israel and you are correct about these Palestinians (but in reverse)in you comment above.steven therefore by your own admission Israel is RACIST..you can't have it both ways ILOVIFULOVILOVSuggesting Jews be welcomed into a state, with full citizenship and all the rights that go with it is racism?
GOSH
Suggesting Jews give up their Citizenship to become a " citizen" in a Muslim Country where they will always be the minority and never have any say in Govt isn't Racism ? GOSH
Sorry but you are a liar. Don't see any Pro Israeli suggesting anyone give up their Citizenship and turn their backs on their Country . Know when a Pro Palestinian is lying? When their lips move
What is wrong with you tonight(8.28 Mullaloo time)....Take a chill pill,have a good nights sleep ILOV........and maybe tomorrow ILOVWILLBLOVELY.
Why is it that I am a liar........................................................................when I don't speak with a forked tongue but only speak in truth.......something you should adhere to and your possee of Haters of everything Non Zionist
You should get a Psych evaluation and find out why you are Anti Semitic and why you believe that if you are not Pro Palestinian you are labeled a Hater . Let us know what the Doctor says
ILOVUSHOWNOLOVEOTHERTHAN2ZIONISTASWERPEOPLE2, better to love than Hate,Viva Israel,Viva Palestine,YES ISRAEL+PALESTINE
steven www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG1qAfi7T3A
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Well,firstly my prose is in response to the Pro_Zionist lobby on here who openly degrade all things Palestinian........you throw around all this Anti-Semite nonsense yet I am the Greatest Lover yet you Guys are the real Greatest Haters FACT,your actually the MOST ANTI-SEMITES being as Palestinians are a semitic people where as most Jews are not.......that's just for starters,you dislike folk that stand up to your motely crew......I see it in virtually every post you people make.......................I just give you Haters,you Anti Semites a bit of your own medicine ......trouble is you can't take it....yet expect us to.......It is a horrible form of Arrogance that you display......You and your ilk,give Jews a Bad Name.......for you are merely part of a destructive CULT called ZIONISM.Geeeee ILOVILOVBUTIFILOVLOVEDITWOULDBLOVEILOVILOVLOVE........When they move their Lips is a tired old one-linerWell the same can be said about Muslim and Christian Palestinians living in Israel and you are correct about these Palestinians (but in reverse)in you comment above.steven therefore by your own admission Israel is RACIST..you can't have it both ways ILOVIFULOVILOVSuggesting Jews give up their Citizenship to become a " citizen" in a Muslim Country where they will always be the minority and never have any say in Govt isn't Racism ? GOSH
Sorry but you are a liar. Don't see any Pro Israeli suggesting anyone give up their Citizenship and turn their backs on their Country . Know when a Pro Palestinian is lying? When their lips move
What is wrong with you tonight(8.28 Mullaloo time)....Take a chill pill,have a good nights sleep ILOV........and maybe tomorrow ILOVWILLBLOVELY.
Why is it that I am a liar........................................................................when I don't speak with a forked tongue but only speak in truth.......something you should adhere to and your possee of Haters of everything Non Zionist
You should get a Psych evaluation and find out why you are Anti Semitic and why you believe that if you are not Pro Palestinian you are labeled a Hater . Let us know what the Doctor says
ILOVUSHOWNOLOVEOTHERTHAN2ZIONISTASWERPEOPLE2, better to love than Hate,Viva Israel,Viva Palestine,YES ISRAEL+PALESTINE
steven www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG1qAfi7T3A
Zi·on·ism
/ˈzīəˌnizəm/
noun
- a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.
theliq
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I have no problems with the Jewish State and I'm all for it,if you bothered to read any of my posts you would see that,on second thoughts maybe not because you are a PIG IGNORANT CRETIN..........suffice to say Zionists are Terrorists and you only need to look at their past,....Collaboration with the Nazis,helping that despicable Regime,send other Jews to The Concentration Camps.......later their Terrorism against the British during the Mandate,moreover the Deportation of 100,000's of Palestinians into Exile,The Systematic Murder and Slaughter of Palestinians and The Razing of Palestinians Towns and Villages,in the calculated drive to Steal Palestinian Land,which has continued even up until today.Well,firstly my prose is in response to the Pro_Zionist lobby on here who openly degrade all things Palestinian........you throw around all this Anti-Semite nonsense yet I am the Greatest Lover yet you Guys are the real Greatest Haters FACT,your actually the MOST ANTI-SEMITES being as Palestinians are a semitic people where as most Jews are not.......that's just for starters,you dislike folk that stand up to your motely crew......I see it in virtually every post you people make.......................I just give you Haters,you Anti Semites a bit of your own medicine ......trouble is you can't take it....yet expect us to.......It is a horrible form of Arrogance that you display......You and your ilk,give Jews a Bad Name.......for you are merely part of a destructive CULT called ZIONISM.Geeeee ILOVILOVBUTIFILOVLOVEDITWOULDBLOVEILOVILOVLOVE........When they move their Lips is a tired old one-linerWell the same can be said about Muslim and Christian Palestinians living in Israel and you are correct about these Palestinians (but in reverse)in you comment above.steven therefore by your own admission Israel is RACIST..you can't have it both ways ILOVIFULOVILOV
Sorry but you are a liar. Don't see any Pro Israeli suggesting anyone give up their Citizenship and turn their backs on their Country . Know when a Pro Palestinian is lying? When their lips move
What is wrong with you tonight(8.28 Mullaloo time)....Take a chill pill,have a good nights sleep ILOV........and maybe tomorrow ILOVWILLBLOVELY.
Why is it that I am a liar........................................................................when I don't speak with a forked tongue but only speak in truth.......something you should adhere to and your possee of Haters of everything Non Zionist
You should get a Psych evaluation and find out why you are Anti Semitic and why you believe that if you are not Pro Palestinian you are labeled a Hater . Let us know what the Doctor says
ILOVUSHOWNOLOVEOTHERTHAN2ZIONISTASWERPEOPLE2, better to love than Hate,Viva Israel,Viva Palestine,YES ISRAEL+PALESTINE
steven www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG1qAfi7T3A
Zi·on·ism
/ˈzīəˌnizəm/
noun
Dont like Zionism you Racist Jew Hating Bigot? Too bad. The JEWISH STATE will always exist. The Palestinians were given many chances before 1967.
- a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.
I have and never will hate Jews but Zionists and their lackies The Settlers are beyond REDEMPTION
I have never and would never say that The Jewish State of Israel should not exist.
I am not alone,non Zionist Jews and Secular Jews in Israel,and the Palestinians in Israel.....can't stand these Terrorist Zionists..FULL STOP
I don't need a history lesson from a Weasel and Ignoramus like you
You are probably a Christian Zionist.......I will tell you about your dumb ass faith......Christian Zionists which formed in America in the late 1920's primarily to support Jews and Zionists world wide to return to the land of Israel....NOT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO FURTHER THEIR(the Jewish) CAUSE but because they wanted to concentrate ALL JEWS into this area..........Wait for IT........Because of the 2nd Coming.....Where GOD could take his revenge on the Jewish Nation for the Death of his son JESUS...........You are as I said a complete CRETIN......You are NO friend of Jewish People.
Now FCUK OFF to the Gutter whence you came...theliquidator
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