Remember when Biden swore he would not send tanks to the Ukraine cuz that would start WW3?

[Concerned American]

We spent a lot of money disarming Ukraine in the 90's and 2000's..

Over 100 billion? Take your phony democrat propaganda down the road. That dog don't hunt.

 

[para bellum]

Over 100 billion? Take your phony democrat propaganda down the road. That dog don't hunt.

Oh shut the fuck up, I never said 100 Billion anything.

And I've never voted for a democrat in my life except for one time- a local County Clerk because she did a good job.

Not "fake news". Here is one example:

UKRAINE BEGINS TU-22, TU-22M BOMBER ELIMINATION

On 14 October 2002, Agentstvo voyennykh novostey reported that the Ukrainian Aviation Transport Company had begun work on eliminating Tu-22 [NATO name 'Blinder'] bombers, Tu-22M3 [NATO name 'Backfire'] bombers, and Kh-22 [NATO designation AS-4 'Kitchen'] cruise missiles under a contract issued by the US company Raytheon and funded by the US government.

A total of 30 bombers and 230 missiles will be destroyed over a period of two and a half years. Bombers will be scrapped at ykolayiv and Poltava air bases, their engines in Bila Tserkva and Khmelnytskyy, and the cruise missiles in Ozernyy (Zhytomyr Oblast). The first bomber will be eliminated on 12 November 2002. The results will be verified by US inspectors.

—Agentstvo voyennykh novostey, 14 October 2002; in "Ukraine begins scrapping of TU-22 bombers, Kh-22 cruise missiles," FBIS Document CEP20021014000237. ITAR-TASS, 11 October 2002; in "Ukraine to begin destroying 30 Tu-22M strategic bombers in Nov," FBIS Document CEP20021011000412

https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/ukraine_bomber.pdf

 

[JohnDB]

No they don't. It's an agreement, not a treaty.

That's semantics...and an invalid argument.

 

[Concerned American]

I never said 100 Billion anything.

Maybe you ought to pay attention to the amount of tax payer $$ that Biden has sent to Ukraine in the past year, moron.

A total of 30 bombers and 230 missiles will be destroyed over a period of two and a half years.

Apparently you are not schooled in the quality of soviet tactical munitions. Those pieces of shit weren't worth the first 20 billion that Biden sent. We don't have a treaty, never have and if current events are any indication, we never will. Now run along. You have been triggered and I don't want to be held responsible for any damage you might do to yourself or others.

 

[para bellum]

Strange that Obama was not concerned with any of that in 2014 when Russia unilaterally annexed Crimea, which by the way is some of the most valuable Ukrainian property. What happened to that non-existent treaty then?

So now you're invoking Obama's Ukraine policy?

Since Obama didn't do anything about Crimea, we have to allow Russia to take all of Ukraine? Okay Neville...

 

[otto105]

Maybe you ought to pay attention to the amount of tax payer $$ that Biden has sent to Ukraine in the past year, moron.

Apparently you are not schooled in the quality of soviet tactical munitions. Those pieces of shit weren't worth the first 20 billion that Biden sent. We don't have a treaty, never have and if current events are any indication, we never will. Now run along. You have been triggered and I don't want to be held responsible for any damage you might do to yourself or others.

I support President Biden and his support for Democracy in our world.


You support national socialism.

 

[Delldude]

A nuclear war would be what?

Over in a flash.

 

[Delldude]

That's semantics...and an invalid argument.

Nope. Treaty's can be broken in theory, agreements can. Why would they make an agreement instead of signing a mutual defense treaty?

 

[otto105]

Over in a flash.

Yup, all of us.


Probably good for the Bud Lite to Coors Lite feel good accomplish nothing boycott.

 

[otto105]

Nope. Treaty's can be broken in theory, agreements can. Why would they make an agreement instead of signing a mutual defense treaty?

Congressional approval.

 

[Concerned American]

So now you're invoking Obama's Ukraine policy?

Just in rebuttal to your bullshit about a non existent treaty. Obama was subject to the same fantasy treaty that you are trying to use to justify the theft of over 100 billion dollars of US taxpayer money that Biden has laundered in Ukraine. Next.

we have to allow Russia to take all of Ukraine?

Again. I don't live in Ukraine or Russia. I don't GAF if they burn each other to the ground. We don't have a horse in that race. If you are so concerned, pack your bags and go there and show your commitment. Leave me and my country out of it. SMFH.

 

[Delldude]

Congressional approval.

So why wouldn't they cut a treaty, congress on both sides have been making dirty money in Ukraine for quite some time. Probably why Biden and others are so quick to whip out the Uncle Sam Credit Card.

 

[para bellum]

Maybe you ought to pay attention to the amount of tax payer $$ that Biden has sent to Ukraine in the past year, moron.

I do, moron. You spout BS numbers.

As of Feb 27, $31.7 Bn committed to Ukraine since the invasion began. Of that $25.93Bn is spent to replenish DOD stocks- IOW, the money is right here.

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Apparently you are not schooled in the quality of soviet tactical munitions. Those pieces of shit weren't worth the first 20 billion that Biden sent. We don't have a treaty, never have and if current events are any indication, we never will. Now run along. You have been triggered and I don't want to be held responsible for any damage you might do to yourself or others.

You don't know what the hell you are talking about, you don't even know what weapons were surrendered.

And I don't take instructions from Kremlin stooges who can't get their facts straight or read a post.

 

[para bellum]

Just in rebuttal to your bullshit about a non existent treaty. Obama was subject to the same fantasy treaty that you are trying to use to justify the theft of over 100 billion dollars of US taxpayer money that Biden has laundered in Ukraine. Next.

You've got me confused with JohnDB. Try to keep up mkay?

This $100Bn only exists in your imagination.

 

[toobfreak]

Well now he is.

Technically, Biden said he wouldn't send planes and tanks in with AMERICANS driving and piloting them. He never said no planes or tanks at all.

It is all just a game of words with these people, they've known all along what they intended to do.

Meanwhile, Joe will not give up ONE INCH of NATO territory even as he violates the agreement with Putin and expands NATO against their border.

Now guess where all these NATO countries will be if Russia invades one inch of American soil?!

 

[para bellum]

Again. I don't live in Ukraine or Russia. I don't GAF if they burn each other to the ground. We don't have a horse in that race. If you are so concerned, pack your bags and go there and show your commitment. Leave me and my country out of it. SMFH.

Yes, you already stated your position. You are triggered because I pointed out that it was not an argument to not help Ukraine.

We know you only GAF about yourself. That's your deal- I don't care about that.

 

[Concerned American]

As of Feb 27, $31.7 Bn committed to Ukraine since the invasion began.

Try again. US leads the rest of the world with $196 billion given to Ukraine amid war with Russia

And I don't take instructions from Kremlin stooges

Quite the cop out when it comes to commitment, eh? Naw you just listen to the bullshit you are fed from a bunch of commie politicians that are sitting in the WH. You are all for a war as long as your pansy ass isn't fighting it. LMAO.

 

[Concerned American]

I pointed out that it was not an argument to not help Ukraine.

Please link a source that outlines one logical reason why we should be entering into regional conflicts half way around the world. We have NO MUTUAL DEFENSE treaties with Ukraine. If they wanted to join NATO, they could have, just like the Baltic states, Poland and now Finland have. Indeed, fourteen former soviet republics have joined NATO and they DO enjoy MUTUAL DEFENSE TREATIES. Try again.

 

[Concerned American]

We know you only GOF about yourself.

I have already made it clear that I couldn't care less about what Russia or Ukraine do. Not my countries, not my war. Where was all your concern when Russia was subjugating Chechnya and Georgia? I know, your fearless leader wasn't laundering money in those countries.

 

[para bellum]

Try again. US leads the rest of the world with $196 billion given to Ukraine amid war with Russia

Quite the cop out when it comes to commitment, eh? Naw you just listen to the bullshit you are fed from a bunch of commie politicians that are sitting in the WH. You are all for a war as long as your pansy ass isn't fighting it. LMAO.

That is a crock of shit. Show me the appropriations bill. The CRS report is the real number, it's itemized by drawdown. The spending bills are cited.

Imaginary amounts based on theoretical lend-lease potential is meaningless and will never come to pass.