Remember 2004?

[Synthaholic]

Let me field this, She outted herself with her neighbors at the BBQ's. Her and hubby used to brag about it.
In Wa. DC, it was Richard Armitage who is said that he got the info from Wilson, himself.

That would be so awesome if it was true!

Wilson was the Hill jabberwocky specialist, Synthaholic. Many heard him discussing his wife's position, and the press ignored the avalanche of people who heard Wilson discussing the particulars.

So many idols, so much misinformation.

Hell of a lot of difference between some in the know people knowing, and broadcasting it around the world, getting sources killed and arrested.

You can spin it all day, but the fact remains that people connected to the Bush Administration outed a covert CIA agent for partisan political purposes.

 

[freedombecki]

Geez, Geaux. I watched people lie about George W. Bush since he first announced he was considering running for President after a star-studded (in conservative circles anyway) fact-finding committee decided he should run. Nobody really knew much about him at the forum where I posted, but almost immediately he was receiving attacks for grade-school, high-school, and college antics. Later on, there was this incident of a respected book company president resigning for almost publishing a book about George W. Bush written by a Texas State Prison inmate who was ticked off when then-governor Bush refused to pardon him for attempting to murder his boss with a car bomb. The publishing company hadn't bothered to check the author's credentials, and apparently when his past was understood, they checked his interviewees in the book that made juicy reading for eager haters, ready to character assassinate a "Fortunate Son." All four interviewees had the same story. JHHatfield had failed to contact them, and the book didn't have a lick of truth in it anywhere else, either, all imaginary figmentation.

I read four or five chapters that somehow got out and were online somewhere. I thought. Totally dopey , and casually tossed it in the trash bin of my computer.

A few months later, and as the campaign E2000 heated up, I kept hearing excerpts from the book coming out on the news. I thought, huh? What is the opponent for? I knew what he was against--the figmentary illusions drummed up in the ex-convict's "tell-all" that had no basis. After Bush told interviewers the information was false a few times and moved on, the leftist lockstep press, disappointed that the information was false, began using the lies any way, and the first thing I knew, the other candidate wasn't saying anything about his plans, he was just parrotting the same lies as the press, nudge-nudge, wink-wink. I felt like hurling everytime I saw another discredited lie being touted as the truth. Every "expose" put out by news centers was discredited, but the book was now:

The Democrat Party Platform
Bag of Lies on GWBush

"The Fortunate Son" is really all true - We like what it says, and we are never wrong. Don't vote for this intellectually challenged man. Every credential he had--degrees from two Ivy League Universities--was parrotted as not earned, that GW was actually a Mad Magazine moron, and the picture was adapted and later, morphed into a Bush-faced monkey. All those lies became urban legend in the DNC Party camp meetings, and rich people in the DNC bought monkeys with a collar that said "George" on it.

That's only how this erudite, scholarly man became an overnight idiot.

When he won the 2004 election handily as indicated by several pollsters, I was elated. Because in 2004, the Democrat Party used the lies as their platform again, hoping their self-fulfilling false prophecy had become public consciousness.

It's just soooooooooooo sad to hear libbies cry about the winning GW Bush, and they always have a couple of rightwingers believing the lie couldn't possibly be a lie. I just roll my eyes back and think, "Stupid works sometimes."

I'm just glad the American people in many states saw through the hyperlies of the JHHatfield book, which has now enjoyed the distinct hilarity of being the DNC Platform for the past 3 presidential campaigns and I'm still hearing the Obama Camp doing the familiar libbie foot stomp, "It's all Bush's Fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We were right !!!!!!!!!!! "

What I don't quite get is how people who have rocket-scientific minds are still duped by this interesting tome, full of falsehood and hatred and hold it to their breasts as they say the politically correct "Whatever diety you want - bless America." And think the refuse wagon isn't following them.

Please, Demmies, the moral of this story is "Get a new platform. This one of lies is unstable, and Americans are starting to smell the refuse you created by spouting lies for 12 consecutive years."
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You clearly don't get it.

You will be the most butthurt after the election.

Hardly. I've never seen anybody lie as well as Obama. He's a master manipulator, and he sounds true sans any semblance of veracity. He fools many.

It's just that I'm not one of them he pulls the wool over eyes on.

He is 5 years on the "10 most corrupt politicians" list Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington.

You don't get that way with responsible reporting people for nothing.

After Clinton celebrated his impeachment in the Rose Garden, there's really nothing left that would make me feel pain about a Democrat's criminal propensities.

 

[Synthaholic]

He is 5 years on the "10 most corrupt politicians" list Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington.

You don't get that way with responsible reporting people for nothing.

You added that bolded line because you know that Judicial Watch is a far-Right, wingnutty outfit.

 

[freedombecki]

That would be so awesome if it was true!

Wilson was the Hill jabberwocky specialist, Synthaholic. Many heard him discussing his wife's position, and the press ignored the avalanche of people who heard Wilson discussing the particulars.

So many idols, so much misinformation.

Hell of a lot of difference between some in the know people knowing, and broadcasting it around the world, getting sources killed and arrested.

You can spin it all day, but the fact remains that people connected to the Bush Administration outed a covert CIA agent for partisan political purposes.

And Ms. Plame's body lies under her headstone is in what Cemetary, dearest?

 

[Meister]

Joe, has he found a party that will nominate him again?

I was referring to when the dems kicked him out because he broke away from the herd
and sided with the repubs on a issue.

That's not true. He was primaried. And he lost. And the Democratic Party supported the winner of the Connecticut Senate primary race.

And that's it. Joe ran as an (I) and won.

Now: why don't you know those facts? Or do you, actually.

They turned their back on him in the primaries, Synth. If he had their support he wouldn't have lost the primaries. Hell he still took it by running as a (I).
Yes....those are the facts

 

[Meister]

That would be so awesome if it was true!

Wilson was the Hill jabberwocky specialist, Synthaholic. Many heard him discussing his wife's position, and the press ignored the avalanche of people who heard Wilson discussing the particulars.

So many idols, so much misinformation.

Hell of a lot of difference between some in the know people knowing, and broadcasting it around the world, getting sources killed and arrested.

You can spin it all day, but the fact remains that people connected to the Bush Administration outed a covert CIA agent for partisan political purposes.

covert? Really? Only in the left leaning press where yarns are spawned.

 

[Synthaholic]

I was referring to when the dems kicked him out because he broke away from the herd
and sided with the repubs on a issue.

That's not true. He was primaried. And he lost. And the Democratic Party supported the winner of the Connecticut Senate primary race.

And that's it. Joe ran as an (I) and won.

Now: why don't you know those facts? Or do you, actually.

They turned their back on him in the primaries, Synth. If he had their support he wouldn't have lost the primaries. Hell he still took it by running as a (I).
Yes....those are the facts

United States Senate election in Connecticut, 2006 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I do.

There was this presidential election.

I really hated the president. He was an incompetent boob that had led our country to calamity. I wasn't alone. He was extremely unpopular with most Americans who viewed his policies as disastrous.

The the Democrats nominated an total dork to run against him.

I wasn't worried because the President was such a dipshit, I knew he was toast.

Then the total Dork's campaign platform consisted of "vote for me because the president sucks"! That's okay, I thought, tat will be enough to beat the loser incumbent.

The morning after the election, I (and many others) woke up shocked that the president had won. There many conspiracy theories, but the truth is that in America it is really hard to unseat an incumbent.

I am getting a kick out off the confidence of the right on this board. I suspect you are whistling past the graveyard.

This thread will serve as anal salve for your butthurt selves after the election.

Seems funny that history is repeating itself in just eight years, doesn't it? One would think we would have learned not to elect incompetent boobs to the highest office in the country, wouldn't one?

Immie

One would think the major parties would put a little more effort into their ambition beyond "vote for me because he other guy sucks"!

That would work if the nation as a whole had any faith in politicians.

Romney is too deluded too realize that he's viewed as a new flavor of douchebag.

Much of that has to do with the fact that neither party has really changed its fundamental policies since the Great Depression, the messenger just changes from time to time.

Otherwise, Republicans make the mistake of assuming a majority of voters hate Obama as much as they; that every voter is ‘desperate’ to correct the ‘mistake’ he made in 2008 and ‘get rid of Obama,’ whom he’s replaced with is unimportant.

Nothing could be further from the truth, of course.

The fact is democrats still elect presidents, Romney simply won’t get enough to abandon Obama to win. Whatever the issue some democrats and independents may have with the president, there’s nothing compelling about Romney for the governor to gain their support.

 

[Immanuel]

No republican has won a presidential election is a long time without cheating

Listen up.

I provided links and alwsy provide links.

fuck you very much I dont need this kind of "defending".

Another lie by Truthdoesn'tmatter. Note the fact that the post in question has no link at all.

You are a disgrace to both your party and your country.

Immie

Why do you keep saying this? You've offered nothing to contradict Truthmatters.

I don't have to offer anything until she comes up with some proof that she's not lying. She goes along spouting lies that "republicans only win by cheating". She doesn't provide an ounce of proof to that fact and I am supposed to prove that Republicans win by not cheating? There is absolutely zero proof that the Republicans cheated in either the the 2000 or the 2004 elections, just a whole hell of a lot of whiny assed liberals who can't believe Bush beat either Gore or Kerry.

For her to prove that she is not lying, she would need to provide proof that in every single election that a Republican ran in they cheated to win. Until she does that, she remains a liar.

You're pretty funny Synth. Defending a known liar like you are.

Immie

 

[Liability]

Remember don't change horses in the middle of the stream?

It was "don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw," you dolt.

 

[Immanuel]

So you ignored the evidence earlier in this thread should I go get it for you again?

There is no evidence that Republicans win by cheating moron. Your links don't even say that. How frigging stupid can you be?

My Lord, but you are a disgrace to both your party and your country.

Immie

That's, what, the 4th time you have said this? What's your problem?

I'm likely to say it dozens more times as it is the truth.

Immie

 

[Liability]

Kerry would have won if the republican had not cheated

The dishonest whining butthurt cry of the libbie sow is just endless.

 

[Liability]

No republican has won a presidential election is a long time without cheating

Untrue and also unprovable. TderpM can't post without lying.

Maybe it's just because she is a rancid dumbass dishonest liberal sow ****.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Remember don't change horses in the middle of the stream?

It was "don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw," you dolt.

strange, i don't recall abe saying this.

 

[Too Tall]

Is this link about the Plame affair slanted? Plame affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My issue is that really beginning with the people behind the Bush administration Republicans have put party above country. Sorry, no link.

If you don't know how slanted Wiki is, Meister is right....you ARE wet behind the ears.

OK, hortysir, what is your opinion, 25 words or less please, of the outing of a CIA agent?

Anyone that pays attention knows it was Richard Armitage.

February 11, 2009 6:02 PM PrintText
Armitage On CIA Leak: 'I Screwed Up'
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ByJennifer Hoar

In an exclusive interview with CBS News national security correspondent David Martin, Richard Armitage, once the No. 2 diplomat at the State Department, couldn't be any blunter.

"Oh I feel terrible. Every day, I think I let down the president. I let down the Secretary of State. I let down my department, my family and I also let down Mr. and Mrs. Wilson," he says.

When asked if he feels he owes the Wilsons an apology, he says, "I think I've just done it."

In July 2003, Armitage told columnist Robert Novak that Ambassador Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, and Novak mentioned it in a column. It's a crime to knowingly reveal the identity of an undercover CIA officer. But Armitage didn't yet realize what he had done.

So, what exactly did he tell Novak?

"At the end of a wide-ranging interview he asked me, 'Why did the CIA send Ambassador (Wilson) to Africa?' I said I didn't know, but that she worked out at the agency," Armitage says.

Armitage says he told Novak because it was "just an offhand question." "I didn't put any big import on it and I just answered and it was the last question we had," he says.

Armitage adds that while the document was classified, "it doesn't mean that every sentence in the document is classified.

"I had never seen a covered agent's name in any memo in, I think, 28 years of government," he says.

He adds that he thinks he referred to Wilson's wife as such, or possibly as "Mrs. Wilson." He never referred to her as Valerie Plame, he adds.

"I didn't know the woman's name was Plame. I didn't know she was an operative," he says.

He says he was reading Novak's newspaper column again, on Oct. 1, 2003, and "he said he was told by a non-partisan gun slinger."

"I almost immediately called Secretary Powell and said, 'I'm sure that was me,'" Armitage says.

Armitage immediately met with FBI agents investigating the leak.

"I told them that I was the inadvertent leak," Armitage says. He didn't get a lawyer, however.

"First of all, I felt so terrible about what I'd done that I felt I deserved whatever was coming to me. And secondarily, I didn't need an attorney to tell me to tell the truth. I as already doing that," Armitage explains. "I was not intentionally outing anybody. As I say, I have tremendous respect for Ambassador. Wilson's African credentials. I didn't know anything about his wife and made an offhand comment. I didn't try to out anybody."

That was nearly three years ago, but the political firestorm over who leaked Valerie Plame's identity continued to burn as Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald began hauling White House officials and journalists before a grand jury.

Armitage says he didn't come forward because "the special counsel, once he was appointed, asked me not to discuss this and I honored his request."

"I thought every day about how I'd screwed up," he adds.

Armitage never did tell the president, but he's talking now because Fitzgerald told him he could.

The real criminal in this whole affair is Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. He continued his investigation and spent millions of taxpayer dollars AFTER he knew Armitage was the leak.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-1981433.html

 

[Trajan]

I do.

There was this presidential election.

I really hated the president. He was an incompetent boob that had led our country to calamity. I wasn't alone. He was extremely unpopular with most Americans who viewed his policies as disastrous.

The the Democrats nominated an total dork to run against him.

I wasn't worried because the President was such a dipshit, I knew he was toast.

Then the total Dork's campaign platform consisted of "vote for me because the president sucks"! That's okay, I thought, tat will be enough to beat the loser incumbent.

The morning after the election, I (and many others) woke up shocked that the president had won. There many conspiracy theories, but the truth is that in America it is really hard to unseat an incumbent.

I am getting a kick out off the confidence of the right on this board. I suspect you are whistling past the graveyard.

This thread will serve as anal salve for your butthurt selves after the election.

yup, a lot of that is true. but bush didn't have an anemic economy and at the time the debt wasn't 16 trillion ( well 15.8).......and Rove ran it as a turn out election.

and yes the dems are doing same, nothing is certain, I say Romney ryan have even odds right now, thats about it, theres still a lot of game to be played.

 

[Trajan]

If you don't know how slanted Wiki is, Meister is right....you ARE wet behind the ears.

OK, hortysir, what is your opinion, 25 words or less please, of the outing of a CIA agent?

Anyone that pays attention knows it was Richard Armitage.

February 11, 2009 6:02 PM PrintText
Armitage On CIA Leak: 'I Screwed Up'
comments

ByJennifer Hoar

In an exclusive interview with CBS News national security correspondent David Martin, Richard Armitage, once the No. 2 diplomat at the State Department, couldn't be any blunter.

"Oh I feel terrible. Every day, I think I let down the president. I let down the Secretary of State. I let down my department, my family and I also let down Mr. and Mrs. Wilson," he says.

When asked if he feels he owes the Wilsons an apology, he says, "I think I've just done it."

In July 2003, Armitage told columnist Robert Novak that Ambassador Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, and Novak mentioned it in a column. It's a crime to knowingly reveal the identity of an undercover CIA officer. But Armitage didn't yet realize what he had done.

So, what exactly did he tell Novak?

"At the end of a wide-ranging interview he asked me, 'Why did the CIA send Ambassador (Wilson) to Africa?' I said I didn't know, but that she worked out at the agency," Armitage says.

Armitage says he told Novak because it was "just an offhand question." "I didn't put any big import on it and I just answered and it was the last question we had," he says.

Armitage adds that while the document was classified, "it doesn't mean that every sentence in the document is classified.

"I had never seen a covered agent's name in any memo in, I think, 28 years of government," he says.

He adds that he thinks he referred to Wilson's wife as such, or possibly as "Mrs. Wilson." He never referred to her as Valerie Plame, he adds.

"I didn't know the woman's name was Plame. I didn't know she was an operative," he says.

He says he was reading Novak's newspaper column again, on Oct. 1, 2003, and "he said he was told by a non-partisan gun slinger."

"I almost immediately called Secretary Powell and said, 'I'm sure that was me,'" Armitage says.

Armitage immediately met with FBI agents investigating the leak.

"I told them that I was the inadvertent leak," Armitage says. He didn't get a lawyer, however.

"First of all, I felt so terrible about what I'd done that I felt I deserved whatever was coming to me. And secondarily, I didn't need an attorney to tell me to tell the truth. I as already doing that," Armitage explains. "I was not intentionally outing anybody. As I say, I have tremendous respect for Ambassador. Wilson's African credentials. I didn't know anything about his wife and made an offhand comment. I didn't try to out anybody."

That was nearly three years ago, but the political firestorm over who leaked Valerie Plame's identity continued to burn as Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald began hauling White House officials and journalists before a grand jury.

Armitage says he didn't come forward because "the special counsel, once he was appointed, asked me not to discuss this and I honored his request."

"I thought every day about how I'd screwed up," he adds.

Armitage never did tell the president, but he's talking now because Fitzgerald told him he could.

The real criminal in this whole affair is Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. He continued his investigation and spent millions of taxpayer dollars AFTER he knew Armitage was the leak.

Armitage On CIA Leak: 'I Screwed Up' - CBS News

Armitage never did tell the president, but he's talking now because Fitzgerald told him he could.

The real criminal in this whole affair is Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. He continued his investigation and spent millions of taxpayer dollars AFTER he knew Armitage was the leak.

and Powell didn't either. Mr. Integrity.

 

[L.K.Eder]

The real criminal in this whole affair is Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. He continued his investigation and spent millions of taxpayer dollars AFTER he knew Armitage was the leak.

Armitage On CIA Leak: 'I Screwed Up' - CBS News

i hope you are not a plumber

 

[emptystep]

.....and Rove ran it as a turn out election.

That's one way of putting it.

 

[hortysir]

yup, a lot of that is true. but bush didn't have an anemic economy and at the time the debt wasn't 16 trillion ( well 15.8).......and Rove ran it as a turn out election.

and yes the dems are doing same, nothing is certain, I say Romney ryan have even odds right now, thats about it, theres still a lot of game to be played.

Even odds against an incumbent is HUGE.