Religions will End.

[AllieBaba]

This thread is a gold mine of lunacy.

Well said, but isn't that what it takes to actually be a believer? And is this fantasy something that is healthy for mankind, or just a distraction when the brain could be working for the good of mankind?

ahh but all the reward is AFTER this life.
Seems to kind of cheapen the value of this life somewhat.

Everyone send me some seed money and god will repay you tenfold.

Not at all. This life is worthwhile, and difficult. It's what we do in this life that determines our reward in the next.

If you think purpose and hope cheapen a life, that's sad and I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry for you anyway, but that pretty much shows how limited your capacity for joy is.

 

[G.T.]

Once they figure out how to download memories, the brain does not need rejuvenation. Thoughts are electro-magnetic impulses and they're right now beginning to map them and the research will carry on from there. It's no time within our lifetimes that this will happen though.

 

[rikules]

When man finally figures out he is God, then religion will end. So how will he know? I think technology is opening new doors, intelligence is advancing, and man will learn to control his mind and make it work for him. You never hear much about it, but while I was studying at a University a professor in paranormal studies approached me, and discussed a society that conducts studys of mind control, and asked if I wanted to join into that group to send messages directly to targeted individuals, much like a telephone call. I was buried in other studies so passed it up. But it is something ongoing I assume.

When we get several of the powers down of the mind, making life everlasting, then I think religion will disban. Much of religion is pretty much debunked anyway.

Your thoughts.

"religions will end"

I use to think/hope/believe that the import of religion would diminish....

that the majority of humans would just discard it/outgrow it....

the way we outgrow santy claus and the easter bunny

but now I'm not so sure....

it appears as though less intelligent humans are out-breeding the more intelligent ones

and the less intelligent will always NEED to believe in (fear) some kind of god and religion

many of them also seem to need to ELIMINATE/ERADICATE all opposition to their beliefs...

It would be nice if humans evolved/grew/matured to a point where religion was just considered a quaint tradition from our past...

but I don't see that happening in the near future

 

[uscitizen]

Yes we do seem to be evolving in a negative direction.

 

[007]

I'd rather live my life as though there is a God, and die and find out there isn't, than live my life as though there wasn't a God, and die and find out there is.

 

[G.T.]

I'd rather live my life as though there is a God, and die and find out there isn't, than live my life as though there wasn't a God, and die and find out there is.

That's not faith that's "just in case."

 

[007]

I'd rather live my life as though there is a God, and die and find out there isn't, than live my life as though there wasn't a God, and die and find out there is.

That's not faith that's "just in case."

That's right. But I didn't write that for my benefit. I wrote it for those who have no faith.

 

[AllieBaba]

Even if your faith is not concrete, if you read the bible and pray ANYWAY the holy spirit will come to you. It's indicative of the close-mindedness and arrogance of those who love to harass believers that they won't even try it.

 

[G.T.]

I'd rather live my life as though there is a God, and die and find out there isn't, than live my life as though there wasn't a God, and die and find out there is.

That's not faith that's "just in case."

That's right. But I didn't write that for my benefit. I wrote it for those who have no faith.

That's not a benefit.

If you don't have faith, and you approach God:


Would you rather tell him you were a good person all on your own,

or,

a good person "just in case" he was real

 

[G.T.]

Even if your faith is not concrete, if you read the bible and pray ANYWAY the holy spirit will come to you. It's indicative of the close-mindedness and arrogance of those who love to harass believers that they won't even try it.

Or, you know, they're right and it all might very well be, bullshit. (Religion)

 

[rikules]

I'd rather live my life as though there is a God, and die and find out there isn't, than live my life as though there wasn't a God, and die and find out there is.

That's not faith that's "just in case."

or FEAR
cowardice

 

[rikules]

Even if your faith is not concrete, if you read the bible and pray ANYWAY the holy spirit will come to you. It's indicative of the close-mindedness and arrogance of those who love to harass believers that they won't even try it.

well
I don't "love to harass believers"

but I do believe I have a right to express my opinions (like so many believers do) with the hope/intent of causing/affecting other people (like so many believers do)

and I have read the bible (at least as much as most believers)

I attended religious indoctrination classes up until I was 13 or 14

went to church every sunday

and then, after I stopped attending church and religious indoctrination classes I re-read the bible on my own....(well...much of it....) (late teens/early 20's)

I am pretty sure that my mind was MORE OPEN than most believers who are just ingesting religion with out actually thinking about/analyzing what they are reading...

my opinion/impression is that the god of the bible is;
mean
illogical
irrational
spiteful

I certainly HOPE and PRAY that THAT god does NOT exist

but if he does....

I oppose him on principle

 

[HUGGY]

Even if your faith is not concrete, if you read the bible and pray ANYWAY the holy spirit will come to you. It's indicative of the close-mindedness and arrogance of those who love to harass believers that they won't even try it.

Solly Alli Bolli.. I've read all the major religious "bibles" and tried praying. The truth is you have to buy into Christianity before you are deluded enough to "hear things". Just open mindedly reading the Old and New Testament and honestly trying to get any results from it is a waste of time. It takes a bunch of peer pressure and desperation to conform before the hallucinations can begin.

 

[HUGGY]

Yes we do seem to be evolving in a negative direction.

There has been a slow but steady growth in non believers over the last 40-50 years. It was at about 3% in 1960 and around 8% now. It is true that the mentally weak breed like rabbits.

 

[Vanquish]

Nanotechnology will insure that many of us will live as long as we want to. Instead of brain replacement, nano-tech will simply repair the body we're in.

It's long been established that brain waves exist...the key is decoding them. We already have devices that can operate a computer by thought...is it so far until we can transmit thoughts themselves?

Probably not.

Flying cars based on magnetic repulsion, however...i dont see that coming any time soon

 

[HUGGY]

Religions need to lose their tax exempt status. They most certainly are very much about money, power and control.

 

[logical4u]

There will always be religion. If you do not believe in an ALL POWERFUL DIETY, you will believe in "mother earth", or "government" or some other manufactured diety that uses force for compliance.

Before the nation of Israel, there were many different religions. After Christianity, those "fringe" religions, were greatly reduced in popularity (could it be because with the "new covenant", gods were "banished"). Islam came to take after Christianity had largely quieted the ME and people were living with less wars. Christianity was fractured for "leaders" to rob power from the power based in Rome.

Exploration opened new religions (of old) to people that traveled. Most were rejected outright. Darwin introduced evolution; it became a religion of "faith" (that evolution happened with a big bang...). Communism/Socialism came next with the promise of equality (how did that work out). Now it is "environmentalism".

We will always have religions. People the believe, similarly will form communities. People will need to force their "beliefs" on others and need to claim authority over others, that "authority" will be the religion. Those that claim they have no religion take advantage of the societies that the religious communities built. It is short-sighted to claim religion will ever end. It may be replaced by "false gods", but it will never end. Choose the one you think will benefit your family/community, and either support it or just don't bash it.

 

[007]

That's not faith that's "just in case."

That's right. But I didn't write that for my benefit. I wrote it for those who have no faith.

That's not a benefit.

If you don't have faith, and you approach God:

Would you rather tell him you were a good person all on your own,

or,

a good person "just in case" he was real

Yes it is a benefit. Would you rather die and have to tell him you never believed in him?

You're not grasping the concept.

 

[G.T.]

That's right. But I didn't write that for my benefit. I wrote it for those who have no faith.

That's not a benefit.

If you don't have faith, and you approach God:

Would you rather tell him you were a good person all on your own,

or,

a good person "just in case" he was real

Yes it is a benefit. Would you rather die and have to tell him you never believed in him?

You're not grasping the concept.

No, you're not grasping the concept.

Not having faith is the definition of not believing in him, so if you fake faith, you still don't "believe," I thought that part was obvious.

 

[007]

That's not a benefit.

If you don't have faith, and you approach God:

Would you rather tell him you were a good person all on your own,

or,

a good person "just in case" he was real

Yes it is a benefit. Would you rather die and have to tell him you never believed in him?

You're not grasping the concept.

No, you're not grasping the concept.

Not having faith is the definition of not believing in him, so if you fake faith, you still don't "believe," I thought that part was obvious.

No, you're not grasping the concept.

To live your life as though there is a God would entail all of the above, faith, belief, etc. Otherwise you're NOT living your life as though there is a God.

Was that really so hard to understand, or do you just like to hear yourself talk?