Religion: The clear and present danger of our time

[zaangalewa]

... Such is the stereotype of the angry, self-hating xtian.

If we would hate you then you would also not be satisfied - or would you?

 

[PostmodernProph]

Just pointing the pointlessness of your attempt at a relevant comment.

if christian white american religion and people were truly good I don't think there would be so much poverty or gap between the rich and poor I think most of those people worship capitalism more than they do god.

I disagree.......even without religion folks like you and Hollie would still be uneducated, underemployed, and dependent on society's support.......

are you kidding the most religious communities are the poorest communities. they need religion just to get by mentally

next you'll be telling me the Vatican needs food stamps.......be that as it may it will not be much help to you two underachievers.....

so do you really believe your grandmother great-grandmother great great grandmother greater than that grandmother greater than even that grandmother great great great grandmother great one x a thousand you think all of those ancestors are up there in heaven waiting for you?

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

 

[Hollie]

if christian white american religion and people were truly good I don't think there would be so much poverty or gap between the rich and poor I think most of those people worship capitalism more than they do god.

I disagree.......even without religion folks like you and Hollie would still be uneducated, underemployed, and dependent on society's support.......

are you kidding the most religious communities are the poorest communities. they need religion just to get by mentally

next you'll be telling me the Vatican needs food stamps.......be that as it may it will not be much help to you two underachievers.....

so do you really believe your grandmother great-grandmother great great grandmother greater than that grandmother greater than even that grandmother great great great grandmother great one x a thousand you think all of those ancestors are up there in heaven waiting for you?

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

 

[zaangalewa]

I disagree.......even without religion folks like you and Hollie would still be uneducated, underemployed, and dependent on society's support.......

are you kidding the most religious communities are the poorest communities. they need religion just to get by mentally

next you'll be telling me the Vatican needs food stamps.......be that as it may it will not be much help to you two underachievers.....

so do you really believe your grandmother great-grandmother great great grandmother greater than that grandmother greater than even that grandmother great great great grandmother great one x a thousand you think all of those ancestors are up there in heaven waiting for you?

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

I don't think Muslims are wrong if they should really think per every male idiot who reaches heaven are reaching lots of women including 72 virgins heaven. Who knows not men?

 

[sealybobo]

I disagree.......even without religion folks like you and Hollie would still be uneducated, underemployed, and dependent on society's support.......

are you kidding the most religious communities are the poorest communities. they need religion just to get by mentally

next you'll be telling me the Vatican needs food stamps.......be that as it may it will not be much help to you two underachievers.....

so do you really believe your grandmother great-grandmother great great grandmother greater than that grandmother greater than even that grandmother great great great grandmother great one x a thousand you think all of those ancestors are up there in heaven waiting for you?

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

 

[PostmodernProph]

I disagree.......even without religion folks like you and Hollie would still be uneducated, underemployed, and dependent on society's support.......

are you kidding the most religious communities are the poorest communities. they need religion just to get by mentally

next you'll be telling me the Vatican needs food stamps.......be that as it may it will not be much help to you two underachievers.....

so do you really believe your grandmother great-grandmother great great grandmother greater than that grandmother greater than even that grandmother great great great grandmother great one x a thousand you think all of those ancestors are up there in heaven waiting for you?

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

body surfing......

 

[Abishai100]

Risk Ritalin

When I saw TV ads for the Hollywood (USA) film "The Wolf of Wall Street" (2013), I thought about how significant wealth-power acquisition is to our modern age of contract-based networking (i.e., eTrade).

The Spider-Man (Marvel Comics) super-nemesis Mysterio is a diabolical magician who uses strange death-traps and unpredictably explosive toys/gadgets to persecute people with uncertainty inevitability.

Never tempt fate, even in our time of casino consciousness (i.e., Wall Street). How does religion make us more concerned about risk assessment?





The Wolf of Wall Street (Film)

 

[zaangalewa]

are you kidding the most religious communities are the poorest communities. they need religion just to get by mentally

next you'll be telling me the Vatican needs food stamps.......be that as it may it will not be much help to you two underachievers.....

so do you really believe your grandmother great-grandmother great great grandmother greater than that grandmother greater than even that grandmother great great great grandmother great one x a thousand you think all of those ancestors are up there in heaven waiting for you?

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

 

[sealybobo]

next you'll be telling me the Vatican needs food stamps.......be that as it may it will not be much help to you two underachievers.....

so do you really believe your grandmother great-grandmother great great grandmother greater than that grandmother greater than even that grandmother great great great grandmother great one x a thousand you think all of those ancestors are up there in heaven waiting for you?

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

you should wonder how something so obvious to you makes absolutely no sense to so many others

 

[zaangalewa]

so do you really believe your grandmother great-grandmother great great grandmother greater than that grandmother greater than even that grandmother great great great grandmother great one x a thousand you think all of those ancestors are up there in heaven waiting for you?

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

you should wonder how something so obvious to you makes absolutely no sense to so many others

I would say basing on your belief one of your teachings is : "What I don't know is evil. Let us destroy what I don't know". And one of my dogmas is "Wonderful. Did you see how wonderful this is? Unbelievable ...".

 

[PostmodernProph]

so do you really believe your grandmother great-grandmother great great grandmother greater than that grandmother greater than even that grandmother great great great grandmother great one x a thousand you think all of those ancestors are up there in heaven waiting for you?

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

you should wonder how something so obvious to you makes absolutely no sense to so many others

lol.....I suspect that if you have learned to live with it, he can as well.....

 

[sealybobo]

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

you should wonder how something so obvious to you makes absolutely no sense to so many others

I would say basing on your belief one of your teachings is : "What I don't know is evil. Let us destroy what I don't know". And one of my dogmas is "Wonderful. Did you see how wonderful this is? Unbelievable ...".

I'll be honest it's the institution of religion that I dislike most of my friends are religious good family caring loving religious people. now I still think religion is bad for them or bad for us but I do understand it does a lot of people a lot of good

 

[zaangalewa]

waiting for me?.....of course not.......they are out enjoying themselves and probably haven't given me a moment's thought in over 250 years.........

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

you should wonder how something so obvious to you makes absolutely no sense to so many others

lol.....I suspect that if you have learned to live with it, he can as well.....

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

you should wonder how something so obvious to you makes absolutely no sense to so many others

I would say basing on your belief one of your teachings is : "What I don't know is evil. Let us destroy what I don't know". And one of my dogmas is "Wonderful. Did you see how wonderful this is? Unbelievable ...".

I'll be honest it's the institution of religion that I dislike most of my friends are religious good family caring loving religious people.

So you hate the catholic church but not Catholics.

now I still think religion is bad for them

Depends. They should not slaughter their children if they convert from Atheism to Catholicism without your allowness, so you can hang, draw and quarter their children. A joy shared is a joy doubled.

or bad for us

us? Why is it bad for me to be a Catholic? On lots of reasons - I could write a long text about. So what? Why is it bad for you to be an Atheist? Because you met a Catholic who likes not to be president of USA?

but I do understand it does a lot of people a lot of good

How are you able to understand what you are not able to understand? You don't believe in god. I heard for example this days a story of a man who was 75 years old when he started to find out who the american pilot was, who was shot down with his aeroplane in front of his eyes when he was 5 years old. Was not easy but he found it out. It was a 23 years old US-soldier. And they found also out he survived the crash but became afterwards a victim of a war crime. Someone murdered him. He was buried in a forest. And indeed they found the grave there. A ring on a finger verified the identification. Meanwhile his family in the USA was informed - ironically a family with german roots too - and later he was buried in Arlington. And members of this family found now out, that a woman who worked in the forest took care for the grave in the forest for 20 years before she died on her own. Her hope was: a mother in Russia - where her son never came back - might do the same for her son and pray for him. Are you sure you understand?

 

[sealybobo]

When the current batch of virgins are used up, what does one do to go out and enjoy oneself in heaven?

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

you should wonder how something so obvious to you makes absolutely no sense to so many others

lol.....I suspect that if you have learned to live with it, he can as well.....

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

you should wonder how something so obvious to you makes absolutely no sense to so many others

I would say basing on your belief one of your teachings is : "What I don't know is evil. Let us destroy what I don't know". And one of my dogmas is "Wonderful. Did you see how wonderful this is? Unbelievable ...".

I'll be honest it's the institution of religion that I dislike most of my friends are religious good family caring loving religious people.

So you hate the catholic church but not Catholics.

now I still think religion is bad for them

Depends. They should not slaughter their children if they convert from Atheism to Catholicism without your allowness, so you can hang, draw and quarter their children. A joy shared is a joy doubled.

or bad for us

us? Why is it bad for me to be a Catholic? On lots of reasons - I could write a long text about. So what? Why is it bad for you to be an Atheist? Because you met a Catholic who likes not to be president of USA?

but I do understand it does a lot of people a lot of good

How are you able to understand what you are not able to understand? You don't believe in god. I heard for example this days a story of a man who was 75 years old when he started to find out who the american pilot was, who was shot down with his aeroplane in front of his eyes when he was 5 years old. Was not easy but he found it out. It was a 23 years old US-soldier. And they found also out he survived the crash but became afterwards a victim of a war crime. Someone murdered him. He was buried in a forest. And indeed they found the grave there. A ring on a finger verified the identification. Meanwhile his family in the USA was informed - ironically a family with german roots too - and later he was buried in Arlington. And members of this family found now out, that a woman who worked in the forest took care for the grave in the forest for 20 years before she died on her own. Her hope was: a mother in Russia - where her son never came back - might do the same for her son and pray for him. Are you sure you understand?

by studying your religion as well as others I'm able to know what I'm dealing with without actually having to be religious and for the record I was religious at one point in my life 40 years of my life actually. do you know what they're talking about it on NPR? The history of Pakistan and India. they should have been one nation they were at one point one nation. what divided them? their religions is what divided them. so clearly religion is the clear and present danger

 

[LittleNipper]

Christianity is a relationship between the Father and an adopted child through faith in Christ Jesus. That makes it entirely different from following a set of procedures, regulations, and rules. Religion amounts to outward "works." Christianity is an inward change instilled by the Holy Spirit upon the believer ---- who I might add acquires even his very faith from God.

 

[zaangalewa]

48 virgins equals 24 days in heaven. actually going to heaven I could bang all 48 of them in one day

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

you should wonder how something so obvious to you makes absolutely no sense to so many others

lol.....I suspect that if you have learned to live with it, he can as well.....

If the syro-aramaic hypothese of Mr. Lichtenberg about the Quran is correct then we speak now about a bunch of grapes. But I fear it is normal for atheists to try to speak with Christians as if something what atheists think on their own about this what they don't like to understand is the belief of others. I could discuss with you about why we say for example "Virgin Mary" to mother Mary - and believe me: this what you think about sex is the most unimportant thing in this context. But would be senseless. A string is not a carpet although a carpet is somehow a string. So it would also not make sense to discuss with you why god is not only our father but our mother too. I fear nothing what I could say to you or what any other Christian could say to you about the belief of Christians would make any sense to you. What about if you would scrutinze your own illusion first before you try to call others illusionists? You are sounding in my ears like someone who has not a big idea about the Hilbertspace for example but tries the same time to tell every mathematician what an idiot he is because mathematics is not science and anyway only the mathematics of money is important. Indeed no one has to know anything if he likes to be in [the near of] god - god is able to view directly in every heart. But if someone likes to speak with others then a minimum of knowledge would not be bad. Your belief "atheism" is the same form of belief how someone else believes in god. But let me say: We are on a higher level! We know we believe. You believe you know.

you should wonder how something so obvious to you makes absolutely no sense to so many others

I would say basing on your belief one of your teachings is : "What I don't know is evil. Let us destroy what I don't know". And one of my dogmas is "Wonderful. Did you see how wonderful this is? Unbelievable ...".

I'll be honest it's the institution of religion that I dislike most of my friends are religious good family caring loving religious people.

So you hate the catholic church but not Catholics.

now I still think religion is bad for them

Depends. They should not slaughter their children if they convert from Atheism to Catholicism without your allowness, so you can hang, draw and quarter their children. A joy shared is a joy doubled.

or bad for us

us? Why is it bad for me to be a Catholic? On lots of reasons - I could write a long text about. So what? Why is it bad for you to be an Atheist? Because you met a Catholic who likes not to be president of USA?

but I do understand it does a lot of people a lot of good

How are you able to understand what you are not able to understand? You don't believe in god. I heard for example this days a story of a man who was 75 years old when he started to find out who the american pilot was, who was shot down with his aeroplane in front of his eyes when he was 5 years old. Was not easy but he found it out. It was a 23 years old US-soldier. And they found also out he survived the crash but became afterwards a victim of a war crime. Someone murdered him. He was buried in a forest. And indeed they found the grave there. A ring on a finger verified the identification. Meanwhile his family in the USA was informed - ironically a family with german roots too - and later he was buried in Arlington. And members of this family found now out, that a woman who worked in the forest took care for the grave in the forest for 20 years before she died on her own. Her hope was: a mother in Russia - where her son never came back - might do the same for her son and pray for him. Are you sure you understand?

by studying your religion as well as others I'm able to know what I'm dealing with

Sure you know what you are dealing with. But who buys it? A catholic or a buddhistic monk?

without actually having to be religious and for the record I was religious at one point in my life 40 years of my life actually. do you know what they're talking about it on NPR?

I do not even know what NPR is. I'm not a member of your culture.

The history of Pakistan and India.

Ah yeah I remember a book. Gandhi never was satisfied with this solution, because if people are not able to live in peace together as neighbors then they are also not to able to live in peace together in different states. A typical nonsense of the english culture since a long time of history in my eyes. You made this mistake for example also when you destroyed the multinational empire Austria-Hungaria and the multinational empire of the Osmans. You made this mistake also after World War 2 with the displacement of Germans.

they should have been one nation they were at one point one nation. what divided them?

The english colonialism. Divide and rule.

their religions is what divided them. so clearly religion is the clear and present danger

Says the wolve to the lambs. What do you think happened with the red indians? Oh sorry: meanwhile the English in the USA are so nice to allow Red Indians to be called and to call themselve "native Americans" and everyone thinks it is not racism to do so. But "America" has as less to do with them like India has to do with them. This word is from Martin Waldseemüller who honored Amerigo Vespucchi. But could be more worse: Later he called America "Papageienland" = "land of the parrots". I guess you know why Uncle Sam Parrot don't like to be remembered to his family name.

 

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