Religion Created Science, Technology

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    So....when I saw the forum topic "Developments that shape how we live our lives," it reminded me of the debt that science owes religion.....


    1. Prior to the Enlightenment, people rarely considered science to be antagonistic to religion. Most of the major figures who started modern science were devout Christians: Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Boyle, Newton….

    a. In 2003, sociologist Rodney Stark identified 52 “stars” who launched the scientific revolution, and discovered that all but two were devout Christians.(The two skeptics were Edmund Halley and Paracelsus).
    Stark, “For the Glory of God: How Monotheism Led to Reformations, Science, Witch-Hunts, and the End of Slavery,” chapter two.





    2. Today, most historians agree that the scientific outlook actually rests on fundamental concepts derived from the biblical view of nature. For example, no other culture, East or West, ancient or modern, came up with the idea of “laws” in nature. The concept appeared for the first and only time in Europe during the Middle Ages, a period when its culture was thoroughly permeated with biblical assumptions.
    Pearcy, "Saving Leonardo," p.106.

    a. The use of the word ‘law’ in the context of natural events “would have been unintelligible in antiquity, whereas the Hebraic and Christian belief in a deity who was at once Creator and Lawgiver rendered it valid.” The concept of laws was not metaphorical, as in a figure of speech, but literally true!

    “Natural laws were regarded as real laws or commands, decrees from the Almighty, literally obeyed.”
    Hall, “The Scientific Revolution, 1500-1800: The Formation of the Modern Scientific Attitude,” p.171-172.





    3. Many ancient societies were animistic, nature thought to be filled with gods or spirits ready to inflict disasters such as storms, droughts, famines, unless placated by correct performance of the specific rituals; nature "seemed to common sense intractable, even mysterious and dangerous," writes historian Carl Becker.

    4. But the bible rejects any religious status for nature. From the opening lines of Genesis, the sun, moon, and stars are not gods, nor emanations of a divine essence, but simply created objects with no power over humans. Rather, the bible teaching of a transcendent God liberated people from fear of spiritual forces within nature.

    “…however highly developed a culture’s powers of observation, however refined its equipment for measuring, no real scientific breakthrough is possible until man can face the natural world unafraid.” http://www.allofliferedeemed.co.uk/reformation of modern science.pdf

    a. By exorcising the gods of nature, biblical monotheism freed humanity to investigate it without fear. It taught to think of nature as regular, predictable and open to systemic study.




    5. Therefore, the idea of an intelligible order in nature was not derived from scientific observation. It was derived from biblical theology prior to observation. And it was what made the scientific enterprise possible in the first place.




    6. And, continuing along this line, applying technology was also a biblical worldview. Christian theologians were eager to use science to restore humanity’s stewardship over the rest of creation, lost in the fall into sin.

    a. According to historian Lynn White, the development of technology was inspired by the ‘spiritual egalitarianism’ of the Bible, which engendered “a religious urge to substitute a power machine for a man where the required motion is so severe and monotonous that it seemed unworthy of a child of God.”
    Lynn White Jr. "What Accelerated Technological Progress in the Western Middle Ages?" in Scientific Change, ed. A. C. Crombie, p.272-91.
     
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    religion created science???

    i'm sure galileo would find that amusing.
     
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    Hmmm.............. So the ancient Greeks religion created the beginnings of the methods that our scientific method is based upon. Therefore, we should accept the religions prevelant then? Modern math was created under the Caliphate. Should that be the dominate religion?

    Perhaps a better way of saying it, is that when a society gave it's brightest people a way of having time to create, rather than just work to survive, they created. Whether that society was one of many religions, such as the Greek and Romans, or monotheistic, such as Islam and Christianity. And it matters little whether the people that were given the time were called priests, philosphers, or scientists, as long as the lessor intellects did not impose restrictions on them, they created.
     
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    Judging by the post, you've read only the title....


    You might be surprised to learn...and you would if you had the time, or took the time to read the OP...that it speaks to the fact that "most of the major figures who started modern science were devout Christians."


    There are aspects of the premise that are arguable....
    ...but your point barely grazes the issue.



    Also, the references to the bible specify the Old Testament....
    ...if that is a consideration to you.
     
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    True all dat -- PChick.. But we also have to face the reality that science should never be forced to answer to wills of sponsors... Be they Govt, Industry OR Religion..

    Net positive effect from religion until the Enlightenment. From then on --- not so much.. Biggest impediment to science TODAY --- is politicians with agendas and the gullibility of the general public.
     
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    Not really,

    Maybe a little ,but science was mostly developed by people that want against the norm.
     
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    The biggest enemy of science today are politicians defunding it like Barack Obama. :mad:
     
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    Galileo was a devout Christian, stupid.
     
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    Well...unless you include 'fake' science.....


    "Climate Money: The Climate Industry: $79 billion so far – trillions to come


    The US government has spent over $79 billion since 1989 on policies related to climate change, including science and technology research, administration, education campaigns, foreign aid, and tax breaks. Despite the billions: “audits” of the science are left to unpaid volunteers. A dedicated but largely uncoordinated grassroots movement of scientists has sprung up around the globe to test the integrity of the theory and compete with a well funded highly organized climate monopoly. They have exposed major errors."
    http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/climate_money.pdf
     
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    "God is known by nature in his works, and by doctrine in his revealed word."

    Galileo Galilei, though famous for his scientific achievements in astronomy, mathematics, and physics, and infamous for his controversy with the church was, in fact, a devout Christian who saw not a divorce of religion and science but only a healthy marriage: "God is known by nature in his works, and by doctrine in his revealed word."
    Galileo Galilei | Christian History
     

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