Readying for Demographics....

[pbel]

Has anyone noticed how Likud and Netanyahu are passing legislation meant to firm up that Israel is a Jewish State? Yes the Hawks realize that since they can't expel their minorities who will become a numerical majority in 40-50 years, not to mention if they absorb the Occupied West Bank...

There is panic in the right wing ranks because the world and History are against Religious or Ethnic States that Europe went through prior to the renascence...Israel is devolving into a status that befits its location where Demographics will eventually absorb her.



Israeli cabinet approves legislation defining nation-state of Jewish people World news The Guardian
Opponents say proposed law would reserve ‘national rights’ for Jews and not for minorities that make up 20% of population

The Israeli PM, Binyamin Netanyahu, argues the law is needed because the notion of Israel as a Jewish homeland was being challenged. Photograph: Barcroft Media
Peter Beaumont in Jerusalem
Sunday 23 November 2014 14.08 EST

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A controversial bill that officially defines Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people has been approved by cabinet despite warnings that the move risks undermining the country’s democratic character.
Opponents, including some cabinet ministers, said the new legislation defined reserved “national rights” for Jews only and not for its minorities, and rights groups condemned it as racist.
The bill, which is intended to become part of Israel’s basic laws, would recognise Israel’s Jewish character, institutionalise Jewish law as an inspiration for legislation and delist Arabic as a second official language.
Arab Muslims and Christians make up 20% of Israel’s population.
The cabinet passed the bill by a 14-7 majority after reports of rancorous exchanges during the meeting, including between the prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, and his justice minister, Tzipi Livni.
The bill, which still requires the Knesset’s approval to become a law, comes as tensions between Israelis and Palestinians rise sharply, and friction within Israel’s Arab minority grows.
Opponents include two of the more centrist parties in Netanyahu’s fragile coalition - which say the bill is being pushed through with forthcoming primaries in the prime minster’s rightwing Likud party in mind - and senior government officials including the attorney general.
According to many critics, the new wording would weaken the wording of Israel’s declaration of independence, which states that the new state would “be based on the principles of liberty, justice and freedom expressed by the prophets of Israel [and] affirm complete social and political equality for all its citizens, regardless of religion, race or gender”.

 

[toastman]

How is it that minorities will be a majority in 40-50 years in Israel proper ?

 

[Beelzebub]

The issue will become greater as more non-Jews inhabit the land.
Eventually Zionism will need to either open up the death camps. Or I suppose it could just try for free-range killing, but even the SS found that too upsetting for their soldiers.

How many IDF were suffering PTSD after the Gaza slaughter?

 

[MJB12741]

How is it that minorities will be a majority in 40-50 years in Israel proper ?

Pbel has this notion in his head that Israel is doomed due to a rising population increase among Palestinians. Don't mind him. It's just those little voices again.

 

[pbel]

How is it that minorities will be a majority in 40-50 years in Israel proper ?

By 2035 Jewish population in Israel Palestine is projected at 46 percent 8211 Mondoweiss
By 2035, Jewish population in Israel/Palestine is projected at 46 percent Israel/Palestine Joseph Chamie on February 21, 2014 28 Comments - See more at: By 2035 Jewish population in Israel Palestine is projected at 46 percent 8211 Mondoweiss

 

[toastman]

How is it that minorities will be a majority in 40-50 years in Israel proper ?

By 2035 Jewish population in Israel Palestine is projected at 46 percent 8211 Mondoweiss
By 2035, Jewish population in Israel/Palestine is projected at 46 percent Israel/Palestine Joseph Chamie on February 21, 2014 28 Comments - See more at: By 2035 Jewish population in Israel Palestine is projected at 46 percent 8211 Mondoweiss

Read the title. It says in Israel Palestine so it's talking about the West Bank and Gaza. Israel proper will always have a Jewish majority

 

[toastman]

The issue will become greater as more non-Jews inhabit the land.
Eventually Zionism will need to either open up the death camps. Or I suppose it could just try for free-range killing, but even the SS found that too upsetting for their soldiers.

How many IDF were suffering PTSD after the Gaza slaughter?

You're a sick person with a sick mind

 

[pbel]

How is it that minorities will be a majority in 40-50 years in Israel proper ?

Israel s Demographic Challenge
Within the state of Israel, the Israeli Arab population is growing at a higher rate than Israel’s Jews. Consequently, the Jewish majority within Israel is slowly diminishing. In relation to Palestine, the population growth rate of Israel is lower than the Palestinian population growth rate, resulting in the Palestinian population growing at a faster rate than Israel’s population growth rate. Furthermore, the lack of significant Jewish migration to Israel over the last decade, coupled with relatively higher Arab growth rates, means that the share of Jews within the entire population living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River will continue to diminish.

 

[Katzndogz]

It is highly unlikely that Israel will absorb the Palestinian state. If it did, there would be no more Palestinians living there. So there is no question that it would be a Jewish state.

 

[toastman]

How is it that minorities will be a majority in 40-50 years in Israel proper ?

Israel s Demographic Challenge
Within the state of Israel, the Israeli Arab population is growing at a higher rate than Israel’s Jews. Consequently, the Jewish majority within Israel is slowly diminishing. In relation to Palestine, the population growth rate of Israel is lower than the Palestinian population growth rate, resulting in the Palestinian population growing at a faster rate than Israel’s population growth rate. Furthermore, the lack of significant Jewish migration to Israel over the last decade, coupled with relatively higher Arab growth rates, means that the share of Jews within the entire population living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River will continue to diminish.

I understand that. But I'm talking about Israel proper

 

[Penelope]

How is it that minorities will be a majority in 40-50 years in Israel proper ?

Pbel has this notion in his head that Israel is doomed due to a rising population increase among Palestinians. Don't mind him. It's just those little voices again.

You keep mentioning little voices, again and again, What little voices are you talking about ,you must hear little voices as well, or how would you know about little voices?

 

[Penelope]

If the world was not watching, and if we just had the nightly news and local papers mainly, and just the few among many getting the NYT's , etc, there would be no Pals in Israel, and none of us would know the difference. We could be told they moved on to Jordan and that is what we'd all believe.

 

[pbel]

How is it that minorities will be a majority in 40-50 years in Israel proper ?

Israel s Demographic Challenge
Within the state of Israel, the Israeli Arab population is growing at a higher rate than Israel’s Jews. Consequently, the Jewish majority within Israel is slowly diminishing. In relation to Palestine, the population growth rate of Israel is lower than the Palestinian population growth rate, resulting in the Palestinian population growing at a faster rate than Israel’s population growth rate. Furthermore, the lack of significant Jewish migration to Israel over the last decade, coupled with relatively higher Arab growth rates, means that the share of Jews within the entire population living between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River will continue to diminish.

I understand that. But I'm talking about Israel proper

What does DIMMINISHING majority of Jews mean to you? The eventuality is certain, but I think from the numbers presented, Arabs will have a Majority within Israel Proper (Green Line) in 40-80 years.

Do you have any evidence otherwise?

Israeli Arabs and the Future of the Jewish State Middle East Quarterly
This topic begins with demography, for a Jewish country, regardless of specific synagogue-state relations, requires a dominant Jewish majority and an overriding Jewish culture. Current trends, however, call into question the country's future as a predominantly Jewish state.
The latest annual population figures, issued in September 1998 by Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics, show a total of 5.99 million people, of whom 4.75 million are Jews, 887,000 Muslims, 128,000 Christians, 123,000 Druze, and 128,000 "without religious classification."3 These figures do not include 81,400 legal and illegal foreign workers registered for benefits (among them 37,700 Palestinians), and what many Israelis believe are tens of thousands more unregistered workers—virtually all non-Jews. Nor do the statistics distinguish among the many immigrants from the former Soviet Union counted as Jews but who are not Jewish according to Jewish religious law (and whom observant Israeli Jews sometimes call "the Russian gentiles").4
Officially, then, Jews make up 79 percent of all those inside the pre-1967 Six-Day War "Green Line"; in addition, the approximately 160,000 Jews living in the West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza Strip, and eastern Jerusalem are counted in this number.

 

[montelatici]

How is it that minorities will be a majority in 40-50 years in Israel proper ?

It really does not matter what the Jewish proportion of the population is in what is called Israel proper. Israeli Jews control the people within or the borders around a population of non-Jews larger than the Jewish population. It's not a sustainable situation for even the medium term 1-20 years. There will be a single state solution, either a democratic secular state or a Jewish Apartheid dictatorship.