Rate Your Fave US Presidents

[JakeStarkey]

TJ acted correctly in the issue of Louisiana, stupidly in the matter of Burr, and idiotically with the Embargo Act. Then he had almost twenty years to think about what might have been.

 

[mudwhistle]

Anyone who would put Obama in that list of great men has a screw loose. I'm not listing them just because they were effective but in their time they showed great leadership during trying times in our history.

My list:

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Ronald Reagan
5. Thomas Jefferson
6. John Adams
7. Harry S. Truman
8. John F. Kennedy
9. George W. Bush
10. Dwight D. Eisenhower

I left out Bill Clinton because of his scandals and FDR because of his socialist programs, his ruthless treatment of businesses. Both could have been better leaders then they were.

The Hall of Shame is as follows:

1. Barrack Obama
2. Jimmy Carter
3. Richard Nixon
4. Lyndon B. Johnson
5. Woodrow Wilson
6. Ulysses S. Grant
8. Andrew Johnson
9. Andrew Jackson
10. Bill Clinton

Bill Clinton makes the list because he couldn't keep it in his pants and he's still manipulating the government as we speak. He did however have a real gift as a leader that was unfulfilled.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

Anyone who would put Obama in that list of great men has a screw loose. I'm not listing them just because they were effective but in their time they showed great leadership.

My list:

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Ronald Reagan
5. Thomas Jefferson
6. John Adams
7. Harry S. Truman
8. John F. Kennedy
9. George W. Bush
10. Dwight D. Eisenhower

I left out Bill Clinton because of his scandals and FDR because of his socialist programs, his ruthless treatment of businesses. Both could have been better leaders then they were.

The Hall of Shame is as follows:

1. Barrack Obama
2. Jimmy Carter
3. Richard Nixon
4. Lyndon B. Johnson
5. Woodrow Wilson
6. Ulysses S. Grant
8. Andrew Johnson
9. Andrew Jackson
10. Bill Clinton

Bill Clinton makes the list because he couldn't keep it in his pants and he's still manipulating the government as we speak. He did however have a real gift as a leader that was unfulfilled.

You.....I like you.

 

[Avatar4321]

George Washington
John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
Abraham Lincoln
Warren G Harding
Calvin Coolidge
Ronald Reagan

That is all

 

[theHawk]

Washington should be 1 on everyone's list. What he and Henry Know did along with the constitutional army to march through hellacious conditions without shoes, in the snow, below freezing temps, fording freezing streams, feet bleeding as they marched on to Trenton to rout the Reds, Hessians was nothing short of miraculous. That awesome moment in our short history brings chills to my spine.

Yes, very heroic indeed, BUT HE WASN'T PRESIDENT when he accomplished this. So we can't really factor that in.

The OP wasn't very clear on weather we define the best President as his entire life's accomplishments or just the years in office.

 

[theHawk]

The Alien & Sedition Acts ruin his legacy.

His refusal to go to war despite Hamilton, Pickering, and the pressure from the other War Federalists makes him top notch my book. Yes, TJ allowed the Acts to die or be repealed, but he went after sitting judges through impeachment: strictly political retaliation and quite desperate.

Not going to war with France was probably his best decision as President, but let's not forget that he contributed to the anti-French propaganda as much as anyone. Walking around with a sword comes to mind. But as I said, Adams signing the Alien and Sedition Acts disqualify him from being considered as one of the greatest Presidents. As for Thomas Jefferson, his Presidency was really one of the most unfortunate Presidencies. He essentially turned his back on the principles he held before and after his Presidency during his term.

Thats true, but the most controversial provisions in the A&S Acts expired at the end of his term. He probably felt it was necessary to maintain the very fragile union at the time, and it was at the time "the will of the people". The act that allows the President to deport aliens from countries we are at war with still exists.

 

[Lasher]

Washington should be 1 on everyone's list. What he and Henry Know did along with the constitutional army to march through hellacious conditions without shoes, in the snow, below freezing temps, fording freezing streams, feet bleeding as they marched on to Trenton to rout the Reds, Hessians was nothing short of miraculous. That awesome moment in our short history brings chills to my spine.

Yes, very heroic indeed, BUT HE WASN'T PRESIDENT when he accomplished this. So we can't really factor that in.

Why not? Do you make up the rules?

 

[Nickoma99]

Abraham Lincoln may have been great just because he won the civil war and gave freedom to the slaves, but I can agree to put him at the top of the list.
President Lincoln sacrificed states rights to govern themselves and brought in a new era of federal power over the states. That is what has got us into this political mess we have now.

1. George Washington
2. Ronald Regan
3. FDR "Despite is RAW Deal" it was a good ideal just flawed execution.
4. JFK
5. Abraham Lincoln

 

[Wicked Jester]

1. Washington
2. Reagan
3. Lincoln
4. Eisnhower
5. Bush 2 (The man was the perfect leader after 9/11.....this country could have fallen into total chaos both economically and politically. Those are two things the terrorists were banking on. It never happened. This country has never been so united since WW2. He was the man who should have been, and was in place when it happened.....We all owe him a debt of gratitude for keeping it together)

 

[rightwinger]

1. Lincoln
2. FDR
3. Teddy Roosevelt
4. Washington
5. Jefferson
6. Ike
7. Truman
8. Madison
9. Wilson
10 Reagan

 

[Lasher]

Grover Cleveland and Andrew Jackson.
Jacksons fuck up was the trail of tears.......which took out many of my ancestors.

Your ancestors scalped innocent women and children.

He had balls but, like all US pResidents, was a chicken shit whore for the money men.

Afraid to say "Jews?"

Teddy Roosevelt was OK.....for a fucking murdering thief. i often wonder if his real name wasn't Rosenberger ?

It was "Rosenfeld."

I liked the national park system he was the main engineer of.

The rest ?
Kill the fuckers and their entire extended families.

Said like a real, blood-thirsty, murdering injun.

 

[Lasher]

The Alien & Sedition Acts ruin his legacy.

His refusal to go to war despite Hamilton, Pickering, and the pressure from the other War Federalists makes him top notch my book. Yes, TJ allowed the Acts to die or be repealed, but he went after sitting judges through impeachment: strictly political retaliation and quite desperate.

Not going to war with France was probably his best decision as President, but let's not forget that he contributed to the anti-French propaganda as much as anyone. Walking around with a sword comes to mind. But as I said, Adams signing the Alien and Sedition Acts disqualify him from being considered as one of the greatest Presidents. As for Thomas Jefferson, his Presidency was really one of the most unfortunate Presidencies. He essentially turned his back on the principles he held before and after his Presidency during his term.[/QUOTE]

Most Presidents who had (have) Jewish "advisors" (fell) fall prey to that syndrome.

 

[mudwhistle]

Teddy was a little snit that played soldier and was lucky he didn't kill himself along with his men. He lucked out. Sometimes that's all it takes to become great. Luck. He, FDR, and Woodrow Wilson were all progressives which makes them shit in my book. Racist, Fascists, Progressives that were bad for American business.

 

[zzzz]

John Fucking Kennedy -
1. Stood toe to toe with Nikita Khrushchev and didn't back down. From the Berlin airlift to the Cuban missile crisis Kennedy was faced with the only other superpower the world has ever known. These showdowns and his wiliness to "walk the walk" kept the Russian bear at bay.
2. Launched the space race to the moon. May not seem like much but the technological advances that we achieved during the 10 years of the 60's spread across all aspects of American society.
3. Negotiated the nuclear test ban treaty for above surface tests. Before this treaty nuclear explosions were conducted above ground releasing radioactive fallout all over the United States. I still remember the radio warnings about staying inside and not eating the snow (of course you never eat yellow snow!!) back in the late 50's and 60's. Many babies were affected by this fallout during that time. This treaty stopped it.
4. Peace Corps - this encouraged young people to become involved and still is active today building good American men and women.


Had he not been assassinated … we will never know how great a president he could have become. The 60’s were a turbulent time; civil rights, women’s movement, Cold War, Vietnam War, drugs, and other influences that pervaded the society.

But I have to put him up there with some of the icons of America, G. Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan.

 

[Intense]

His refusal to go to war despite Hamilton, Pickering, and the pressure from the other War Federalists makes him top notch my book. Yes, TJ allowed the Acts to die or be repealed, but he went after sitting judges through impeachment: strictly political retaliation and quite desperate.

Not going to war with France was probably his best decision as President, but let's not forget that he contributed to the anti-French propaganda as much as anyone. Walking around with a sword comes to mind. But as I said, Adams signing the Alien and Sedition Acts disqualify him from being considered as one of the greatest Presidents. As for Thomas Jefferson, his Presidency was really one of the most unfortunate Presidencies. He essentially turned his back on the principles he held before and after his Presidency during his term.[/QUOTE]

Most Presidents who had (have) Jewish "advisors" (fell) fall prey to that syndrome.

I think that Hamilton pulled allot of the strings in both the Washington and Adam's administration. I give Adam's credit for standing up to him in the end.

 

[Wicked Jester]

John Fucking Kennedy -
1. Stood toe to toe with Nikita Khrushchev and didn't back down. From the Berlin airlift to the Cuban missile crisis Kennedy was faced with the only other superpower the world has ever known. These showdowns and his wiliness to "walk the walk" kept the Russian bear at bay.
2. Launched the space race to the moon. May not seem like much but the technological advances that we achieved during the 10 years of the 60's spread across all aspects of American society.
3. Negotiated the nuclear test ban treaty for above surface tests. Before this treaty nuclear explosions were conducted above ground releasing radioactive fallout all over the United States. I still remember the radio warnings about staying inside and not eating the snow (of course you never eat yellow snow!!) back in the late 50's and 60's. Many babies were affected by this fallout during that time. This treaty stopped it.
4. Peace Corps - this encouraged young people to become involved and still is active today building good American men and women.


Had he not been assassinated … we will never know how great a president he could have become. The 60’s were a turbulent time; civil rights, women’s movement, Cold War, Vietnam War, drugs, and other influences that pervaded the society.

But I have to put him up there with some of the icons of America, G. Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan.

Sadly, JFK never had the opportunity to fully make his legacy......I'll tell ya' one thing, he's no doubt turning in his grave seeing what the progressives have done to his beloved party. Seriously, could you see Obama, Pelosi or Reid anywhere near the man?......Hell fuckin' no!......And you can bet he gave ol' drunken Teddy a good slap upside the head for falling in line with those clowns, right before that cocksucker was sent straight to hell.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

His refusal to go to war despite Hamilton, Pickering, and the pressure from the other War Federalists makes him top notch my book. Yes, TJ allowed the Acts to die or be repealed, but he went after sitting judges through impeachment: strictly political retaliation and quite desperate.

Not going to war with France was probably his best decision as President, but let's not forget that he contributed to the anti-French propaganda as much as anyone. Walking around with a sword comes to mind. But as I said, Adams signing the Alien and Sedition Acts disqualify him from being considered as one of the greatest Presidents. As for Thomas Jefferson, his Presidency was really one of the most unfortunate Presidencies. He essentially turned his back on the principles he held before and after his Presidency during his term.

Most Presidents who had (have) Jewish "advisors" (fell) fall prey to that syndrome.

Not interested in your collectivist racist nonsense, thanks.

 

[kyzr]

I also like Harry Truman. He ended the war quickly and didn't take any crap from McArthur. I like decisive focused competent presidents

Unlike the recent ones

Posted from 30,000 feet

 

[Avatar4321]

Abraham Lincoln may have been great just because he won the civil war and gave freedom to the slaves, but I can agree to put him at the top of the list.
President Lincoln sacrificed states rights to govern themselves and brought in a new era of federal power over the states. That is what has got us into this political mess we have now.

1. George Washington
2. Ronald Regan
3. FDR "Despite is RAW Deal" it was a good ideal just flawed execution.
4. JFK
5. Abraham Lincoln

I have no desire to take this thread into a tangent, but how was the federal government violating the Constitution and assuming more power to interfer in peoples lives a good ideal?

 

[Avatar4321]

John Fucking Kennedy -
1. Stood toe to toe with Nikita Khrushchev and didn't back down. From the Berlin airlift to the Cuban missile crisis Kennedy was faced with the only other superpower the world has ever known. These showdowns and his wiliness to "walk the walk" kept the Russian bear at bay.
2. Launched the space race to the moon. May not seem like much but the technological advances that we achieved during the 10 years of the 60's spread across all aspects of American society.
3. Negotiated the nuclear test ban treaty for above surface tests. Before this treaty nuclear explosions were conducted above ground releasing radioactive fallout all over the United States. I still remember the radio warnings about staying inside and not eating the snow (of course you never eat yellow snow!!) back in the late 50's and 60's. Many babies were affected by this fallout during that time. This treaty stopped it.
4. Peace Corps - this encouraged young people to become involved and still is active today building good American men and women.


Had he not been assassinated … we will never know how great a president he could have become. The 60’s were a turbulent time; civil rights, women’s movement, Cold War, Vietnam War, drugs, and other influences that pervaded the society.

But I have to put him up there with some of the icons of America, G. Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan.

he is also the one who issued the executive order to unionize Federal employees which has created a bueacratic and deficit nightmare.

Not the worst, but definitely not one of the bests.