Rasmussen Is a Neo-Con Tool

MarcATL

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Designed to skew things in favor of Republicans and all things Neo-Con.

Why can't you neo-cons see/accept that?

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Is Rasmussen Reports Biased?
Rasmussen's Polling Stirs Bias Debate -- Politics Daily
How Rasmussen's right-wing bias has made it a laughing stock among major pollsters - LiveDaily Community
National Ledger - Scott Rasmussen Accused of Bias - Rasmussen Reports Polls Scrutiny

FiveThirtyEight.com said:
Now, what you do need to be aware of is that Rasmussen's opinion is one among many. They might turn out to be right -- but so might all of the other pollsters who have a different opinion about the electorate. If you're running a news organization and you tend to cite Rasmussen's polls disproportionately, it probably means that you are biased -- it does not necessarily mean that Rasmussen is biased.

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But there are other respects in which I'm much less sympathetic to Rasmussen's case. In particular, this has to do with their choices of question wording and subject matter. The Politico question, for instance, points toward an August question in which Rasmussen asked "It’s always better to cut taxes than to increase government spending because taxpayers, not bureaucrats, are the best judges of how to spend their money.” That is not a question designed to elicit the most accurate reflection of public opinion.

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Notice how Rasmussen uses very vague phrases like "likely voters" which should be read as "voters likely to vote for/favor republicans" and "pretty similar" as in "their numbers are pretty similar to ours" where "pretty similar" is not a defined range and varies substantially.

Notice also how Bill O'Reilly gently spoonfeeds Scottie all the necessary talking points.

Classic!
:clap2:
 
For all the derision directed toward pre-election polling, the final poll estimates were not
far off from the actual nationwide voteshares for the two candidates. On average, preelection
polls from 23 public polling organizations projected a Democratic advantage of
7.52 percentage points on Election Day, which is only about 1.37 percentage points away
from the current estimate of a 6.15-point Obama margin in the national popular vote.
Following the procedures proposed by Martin, Traugott and Kennedy (see Public Opinion
Quarterly, Fall 2006, pp. 342-369) to assess poll accuracy, I analyze poll estimates from
these 23 polling organizations. Four of these polls appear to have overestimated McCain
support (indicated with a * below), while most polls (17) overestimated Obama strength.
Pre-election projections for two organizations’ final polls—Rasmussen and Pew—were
perfectly in agreement with the actual election result (**).

The following list ranks the 23 organizations by the accuracy of their final, national preelection
polls (as reported on pollster.com).
1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*

http://www.fordham.edu/images/acade...ccuracy in the 2008 presidential election.pdf

Doesn't sound too much like a polling company bent on trying to skew the facts.
 
Even a broken clock is right twice a day bub.
 
When he had the Dems in front, he was great, now he's a 'neocon tool'.

Do you wake up and decide you will make a fool of yourself on a message board or is it just spontanious?
 
When he had the Dems in front, he was great, now he's a 'neocon tool'.

Do you wake up and decide you will make a fool of yourself on a message board or is it just spontanious?

Until Rasmussen started reporting that Obama's numbers sucked the big one and all his programs were in deep trouble most Demcrats didn't even know who Rasmussen was. Now that he is polling this way the numbers must be biased.

Yeah. Rasmussen is just pulling a fast one. Nothing to worry about in Nov. The election is all in the bag for the Democrats. Just sit this one out.
 
What good would it serve Rassmussen to skew his polls? Wouldn't it be a matter of a very short time before his numbers would be known by all to be unreliable?
Logically yes, but fans of FOXNews and RW radio are not known for their logic.

Notice that Rasmussen Polls are now only featured on FOXNews and RW radio.

Its all quite elementary Watson.
 
When he had the Dems in front, he was great, now he's a 'neocon tool'.

Do you wake up and decide you will make a fool of yourself on a message board or is it just spontanious?

When has Scott Rasmussen EVER skewed to the left of other polls?

Please feel free to give us an example, any example.
 
What good would it serve Rassmussen to skew his polls? Wouldn't it be a matter of a very short time before his numbers would be known by all to be unreliable?

The answer to that is simple.

There is a certain segment of society that only listen to news and opinion that agrees with their own point of view.

Radical viewers, readers or listeners generally believe that their views represent the majority, and that the media is somehow involved in a cover-up to hide the will of this "majority". They prefer to pay attention to media sources that agree with this viewpoint.

That's why MSNBC and FoxNews do better in ratings than other News outlets, and why Conservative talk radio is so popular among right-wingers.

Polling is no exception. There are a whole bunch of polls out there, Rasmussen would get lost among them, and have no notoriety, if he had the same numbers as everyone else.

By introducing right-wing bias to his methodology, Rasmussen has secured a relatively large permanent niche audience that will be loyal to him, just like FoxNews has a relatively large permanent niche audience that are loyal to them.

Interestingly I think that even if Rasmussen is proved to be completely and utterly wrong, his faithful readers will still blindly follow his numbers.
 
When he had the Dems in front, he was great, now he's a 'neocon tool'.

Do you wake up and decide you will make a fool of yourself on a message board or is it just spontanious?

When has Scott Rasmussen EVER skewed to the left of other polls?

Please feel free to give us an example, any example.
Oh this I gotta see!

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What good would it serve Rassmussen to skew his polls? Wouldn't it be a matter of a very short time before his numbers would be known by all to be unreliable?

Well, there's the thing... the way Rasmussen asks it's questions, it's less that it's "unreliable" per se and more that the questions beg certain responses that are skewed to the right. Then right wing pundits and bloggers and partisans use those skewed results.

We do know that the results have issues... that doesn't matter to the people who find the numbers to their advantage.
 
What good would it serve Rassmussen to skew his polls? Wouldn't it be a matter of a very short time before his numbers would be known by all to be unreliable?

Well, there's the thing... the way Rasmussen asks it's questions, it's less that it's "unreliable" per se and more that the questions beg certain responses that are skewed to the right. Then right wing pundits and bloggers and partisans use those skewed results.

We do know that the results have issues... that doesn't matter to the people who find the numbers to their advantage.


Yeah, that scenario would be unique to this one "example" and not indicative of polling elsewhere? :lol::lol:

Rassy is top-notch.

And he's a cool dude to boot.

Does up a mean BBQ...
 
What good would it serve Rassmussen to skew his polls? Wouldn't it be a matter of a very short time before his numbers would be known by all to be unreliable?

The answer to that is simple.

There is a certain segment of society that only listen to news and opinion that agrees with their own point of view.

Radical viewers, readers or listeners generally believe that their views represent the majority, and that the media is somehow involved in a cover-up to hide the will of this "majority". They prefer to pay attention to media sources that agree with this viewpoint.

That's why MSNBC and FoxNews do better in ratings than other News outlets, and why Conservative talk radio is so popular among right-wingers.

Polling is no exception. There are a whole bunch of polls out there, Rasmussen would get lost among them, and have no notoriety, if he had the same numbers as everyone else.

By introducing right-wing bias to his methodology, Rasmussen has secured a relatively large permanent niche audience that will be loyal to him, just like FoxNews has a relatively large permanent niche audience that are loyal to them.

Interestingly I think that even if Rasmussen is proved to be completely and utterly wrong, his faithful readers will still blindly follow his numbers.

Thanks for the reply, but when I find Rasmussen to be off by a significant margin, as I eventually will if what you are saying is true, I will no longer have his site set as a favorite.

It's in his self-interest to be accurate.
 
What good would it serve Rassmussen to skew his polls? Wouldn't it be a matter of a very short time before his numbers would be known by all to be unreliable?

Well, there's the thing... the way Rasmussen asks it's questions, it's less that it's "unreliable" per se and more that the questions beg certain responses that are skewed to the right. Then right wing pundits and bloggers and partisans use those skewed results.

We do know that the results have issues... that doesn't matter to the people who find the numbers to their advantage.

don't use your legal words to snub rasmussen....they are like any other poll group

per se

really.....they are per se jillian? maybe you want them malum prohibitum
 

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