Question, why do christians bow to statues?

[Dan Stubbs]

Why do you bow to a big eared disaster?

So you don't know why you bow and pray to statues?

Sure I do but you'd never grasp it. Why do you make so many threads about something it is obvious you are clueless about? Did a Christian pee in your Fruity Pebbles?

Possibly the best answer I've seen. Thanks.


Sort of "pearls before swine" to discuss this with swine.

Never did that and I am Catholic you are talking about that.??

 

[Dan Stubbs]

People always want to think they got a good deal...The ones who "sold" the 3 in 1 God "deal" knew their " clients" and if they " packaged" it just " right" they knew they would swallow it hook line and stinker( I mean sinker) Afterall everyone wants to get 3 for the price of 1 don't they...The problem here is the 1 item is the finest of silk that will last a " lifetime" while the " knockoffs" which are 3 items are the cheapest of the cheap " imitation" and when you put it on for the first time will disintegrate and leave you with " nothing" in the end accept a bad taste in your mouth because you have been had by a " wily" merchant( clergyman) who has left town and is busy counting the money you gave him and ready to sell his wares to the next " sucker" down the road...

That happened a lot in the Roman period. The people were stupid then.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

So show me in your bible its says to grovel to statues and crosses

As much as it pains me to be in agreement with a pile of bat feces, I have to say that you're right to question this. The Bible very clearly condemns idolatry, yet some of the major Christian sects have fallen into it.

 

[guno]

People always want to think they got a good deal...The ones who "sold" the 3 in 1 God "deal" knew their " clients" and if they " packaged" it just " right" they knew they would swallow it hook line and stinker( I mean sinker) Afterall everyone wants to get 3 for the price of 1 don't they...The problem here is the 1 item is the finest of silk that will last a " lifetime" while the " knockoffs" which are 3 items are the cheapest of the cheap " imitation" and when you put it on for the first time will disintegrate and leave you with " nothing" in the end accept a bad taste in your mouth because you have been had by a " wily" merchant( clergyman) who has left town and is busy counting the money you gave him and ready to sell his wares to the next " sucker" down the road...

That happened a lot in the Roman period. The people were stupid then.

 

[kjw47]

"Question, why do christians(sic) bow to statues"

Christians don't. Some people who identify themselves as Christians may.

Yes the religion that came out of Rome, years after Jesus--was not his--it has branched into 32,997 mass of confusion different religions claiming to be Christian. Unfortunately for all of them, they did not fix it. ( 1Cor 1:10)
Bible principles applied
A good tree produces good fruit-- a rotten tree produces rotten fruit.
Israel served a single being God---God did not change--the religion changed( Matt 23:37-39)--The religion that came out of Rome--changed God.

 

[there4eyeM]

The human concept , 'God' , has of course moved with human history and interpretation. Since any concept of 'God' is a constructed image, it is by definition false and even blasphemy. No concept, past, present or future, can contain 'God', and all efforts are vain and destructive. One who really believes in 'God' would not even discuss it.

 

[xyz]

There are historical reasons, but Iconoclasm did exist as a movement in Christianity:
Byzantine Iconoclasm - Wikipedia

 

[deanrd]

What is the purpose of doing this?

When it comes to Religion, I never could understand all that bowing and scraping and the outstretched hand and the begging. If I had a deity, I wouldn't want one that made me lose my dignity and self respect.

 

[Blackrook]

guno is a fag, that's what I know.

 

[Cecilie1200]

What is the purpose of doing this?

When it comes to Religion, I never could understand all that bowing and scraping and the outstretched hand and the begging. If I had a deity, I wouldn't want one that made me lose my dignity and self respect.

On the other hand, a deity whose existence and presence allowed you to continue believing in the wonder of you wouldn't be much of a deity. It would be like worshipping Bubba, the guy down the street with the hairy beer belly.

 

[LittleNipper]

Not all Christians bow to statuary. In fact many churches don't even allow statuary in their sanctuaries.The Bible is God's word. A statue is an ornament designed & made by man.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Not all Christians bow to statuary. In fact many churches don't even allow statuary in their sanctuaries.The Bible is God's word. A statue is an ornament designed & made by man.

Of course, some of them treat the Bible in a manner that is no less idolatrous than the way that some sects treat statues.

 

[LittleNipper]

Not all Christians bow to statuary. In fact many churches don't even allow statuary in their sanctuaries.The Bible is God's word. A statue is an ornament designed & made by man.

Of course, some of them treat the Bible in a manner that is no less idolatrous than the way that some sects treat statues.

The Bible is GOD's word. Christ substantiated the words of Old Testament and both Jesus and the reminding of Jesus' Apostles/disciples by the Holy Spirit developed the New Testament. Statuary never saved anyone. The Bible clearly brings God's message as He wanted it presented. John 3:16 For GOD so loved the world that HE gave HIS only begotten SON that whosoever believeth in HIM shall not perish but have eternal life.

I know of no stature that illustrates what GOD edited/wrote...

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Of course, some of them treat the Bible in a manner that is no less idolatrous than the way that some sects treat statues.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

The Bible is GOD's word. Christ substantiated the words of Old Testament and both Jesus and the reminding of Jesus' Apostles/disciples by the Holy Spirit developed the New Testament. Statuary never saved anyone. The Bible clearly brings God's message as He wanted it presented. John 3:16 For GOD so loved the world that HE gave HIS only begotten SON that whosoever believeth in HIM shall not perish but have eternal life.

I know of no stature [sic] that illustrates what GOD edited/wrote...

 

[HaShev]

Christ substantiated the words of Old Testament

Not true, that's the earliest form of fake news.
I've addressed these fake 300 claimed verses placing Jesus as the Biblical Moshiach, I exposed that claim many times in many forums & they can be found doing a forum search here of false placement of Jesus. Claims like those using Issiah 53 are proven false as Isaiah 53 is past plural context not future singular and thus in context of Isaiah was being about Israel mentioned 14 times as the servant in that context. Also Jesus wasn't diseased &
Jesus was popular according to the NT therefore can't be despised without saying the NT lies.
Lies like placement into:
Zech 12:10 even after I exposed how it's not messianic and past & present tense they continue using it in their FALSE LIST. It's one of the Most harmful verses to claim, because THE TANAKH VERSION it discusses 2 seperate people -one pierced, but the other mourned=2 people confused for each other and thus mourning the wrong one..By claiming this verse means they agree with me over the compiled and confused Christs & false christ worship.
But also this proves they are dishonest, lazy, and can't comprehend what they read especially tenses.

Other placements;
Dan 9 is answered in many posts;
read it carefully it says
"an anointed" not "the" anointed one, kings were anointed "an anointed" implies one of many kings or anointed rabbis even high priests. The days of weeks lead to the t8me of King Onnias(spell?) who was "an" anointed king cut off by Antiochus the wicked one who desecrated the Temple.

Big lies include:
Isaiah 7 about King Hezekiah who was the child born to the "Young Woman" as a sign for Ahaz when Ahaz was alive not 600 years later.
He had his father's gov't upon his shoulder, was a father figure and had God with them (Emmanuel) in defeating Assyria (context of Isaiah chapters), thus was called the prince of Peace. Jesus kingdom has thousands of wars and over 50 million murders a far cry from peace.

The lie you were given about Matthew on his version of Micah 5:
1)the gender is wrong to be about a town
2) it says Bethlehem Ephratah not just Bethlehem. Ephratah was a father or grandfather of Bethlehem, the context clearly is about a lineage not a town, thus says the word CLAN.
YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO EVEN AFTER SHOWN THE LIE THEY STILL LIST THIS LIE.
If Jesus were who you claim he would need no lies to place him and yet all 300 verses are lies, some even use NT self testimony to pad the list, which are not pre event prophecy, but post event or story telling placement fallacious self testimony.

Then there is another huge issue with your comment regarding substantiating the words of Old Testament, because the only fulfillment was 100% fulfillment of all the verses on the son of perdition, the first fallen imposter messiah preachers deem Lucifer.
See my recent topic post regarding the
king of Tyre(the rock)-Ezekiel 28.
No other prophet was ever called
anointed (christ)
Cherub (guardian=Nazarene)
deemed perfect (sinless)
Therefore only the Jesus icon can be deemed the son of perdition (the one who falls to the pit which Jesus did ACTS 2:27,
1 Peter 3:19, & Apostles Creed.

Lastly I fulfill over 4x as many claimed verses, as you say:
substantiated the words of Old Testament
it's why your faith has many sects that are Michaeline* not Jesuit. *(claim Michael is the Biblical Moshiach)
And yet how many Christians (those fooled and deceived by this image of the created man called Jesus) have called me crazy, thus
inadvertantly calling their own method of reasoning crazy and lesser fulfilled Jesus crazy.
Prerequisites of Moshiach in no way fulfilled by Jesus who REQUIRES:

"The Name"(HaShem)of God will be in his name-(EXODUS 23:20-21 & Hebrew Version of Micah 4:5)

Moshiach lifts the veil from our eyes.-Isaiah 25:7.

Moshiach must have his name in
"the bible" (Mikra)-Melakim
{I Kings8:43} Torah-Devarim 14:22

The Torah portions(Miketz,Shevitz)must
carry his first and last name.
Helps to know Hebrew; MIKEtz-
(Ketz; lit., `end': a particularly auspicious time for Mashiach to bring the exile to an end)

The name must be in the Temple (Mikdash)-
Melakim {I Kings8:43}(2Chronicles6)
Ma'aser Sheni in the Torah says
About tithing the produced food and eating it at the Temple:
“at the site that He shall choose to place His Name”
and the name must be in
the holy city of YeruShalem.
-(1 Kings 11:36 &in dead sea scrolls: Words of the Archangel Michael scroll 4Q529, 6Q23)
The Gemarah (Baba Batra 75)
Sefer D’varim (12:5, 11, 14, 18, 21; 14:23,24, 25; 15:20; 16:2, 6, 7, 11, 15, 16; 17:8, 10; 18:6; 26:2; 31:11)

The name must be remembered by the Sheva (7th) day kept holy.

The name must be revealed in all cultures to come together as one(Y'shv,Shiva,proper transliteration of Shalem, Al Laila,Mikado).
The first and last name and secret name will be revealed in the Bible(Dan 10:20-21 in Hebrew carries both).
The Moshiach must come from the Aaronic Lineage.-scrolls: lQS lX, ll which seems to be fragment omitted from 4QSe(4Q259).

The name must be of the remover of the devil and his works. The person must know the secret of returning to his inheritance. Must know and be a catalyst for process of messaging and a catalyst for the Tikkun Olam and resurrection process and involved in the movement to build the Temple. Has to be involved in being an intercessor, mediator, remover, archstrategist, fascilitator, teacher, judge etc....
None of these things have Jesus by name or deeds. Jesus was never the lead musician, never the arch strategist, never the
melchi tsadek, never the head priest head of host, never knew the secret name of God*
[Moshiach will know the secret wisdom of the name of God 4Q300I ii4=4Q299 2 i I4. ]*
(because the name is shared and the definition is the reflection and teaching),
Thus he
never defined God, never defeated Rome who in opposite liberation caused enslavement when they used the image to subvert the Jews and try to convert them into Baal worshipers. Caused thousands of wars and over 50 million murders over that image which is why they used the mark of the beast cross (predated sign of death & destruction) as their
Religious symbol.

 

[Yarddog]

Why do you bow to a big eared disaster?

So you don't know why you bow and pray to statues?

Why do you assume she bows and prays to statues? thats kind of like the resident dumb ass who thinks all conservatives are farmers

 

[LittleNipper]

Christ substantiated the words of Old Testament

Not true, that's the earliest form of fake news.
I've addressed these fake 300 claimed verses placing Jesus as the Biblical Moshiach, I exposed that claim many times in many forums & they can be found doing a forum search here of false placement of Jesus. Claims like those using Issiah 53 are proven false as Isaiah 53 is past plural context not future singular and thus in context of Isaiah was being about Israel mentioned 14 times as the servant in that context. Also Jesus wasn't diseased &
Jesus was popular according to the NT therefore can't be despised without saying the NT lies.
Lies like placement into:
Zech 12:10 even after I exposed how it's not messianic and past & present tense they continue using it in their FALSE LIST. It's one of the Most harmful verses to claim, because THE TANAKH VERSION it discusses 2 seperate people -one pierced, but the other mourned=2 people confused for each other and thus mourning the wrong one..By claiming this verse means they agree with me over the compiled and confused Christs & false christ worship.
But also this proves they are dishonest, lazy, and can't comprehend what they read especially tenses.

Other placements;
Dan 9 is answered in many posts;
read it carefully it says
"an anointed" not "the" anointed one, kings were anointed "an anointed" implies one of many kings or anointed rabbis even high priests. The days of weeks lead to the t8me of King Onnias(spell?) who was "an" anointed king cut off by Antiochus the wicked one who desecrated the Temple.

Big lies include:
Isaiah 7 about King Hezekiah who was the child born to the "Young Woman" as a sign for Ahaz when Ahaz was alive not 600 years later.
He had his father's gov't upon his shoulder, was a father figure and had God with them (Emmanuel) in defeating Assyria (context of Isaiah chapters), thus was called the prince of Peace. Jesus kingdom has thousands of wars and over 50 million murders a far cry from peace.

The lie you were given about Matthew on his version of Micah 5:
1)the gender is wrong to be about a town
2) it says Bethlehem Ephratah not just Bethlehem. Ephratah was a father or grandfather of Bethlehem, the context clearly is about a lineage not a town, thus says the word CLAN.
YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO EVEN AFTER SHOWN THE LIE THEY STILL LIST THIS LIE.
If Jesus were who you claim he would need no lies to place him and yet all 300 verses are lies, some even use NT self testimony to pad the list, which are not pre event prophecy, but post event or story telling placement fallacious self testimony.

Then there is another huge issue with your comment regarding substantiating the words of Old Testament, because the only fulfillment was 100% fulfillment of all the verses on the son of perdition, the first fallen imposter messiah preachers deem Lucifer.
See my recent topic post regarding the
king of Tyre(the rock)-Ezekiel 28.
No other prophet was ever called
anointed (christ)
Cherub (guardian=Nazarene)
deemed perfect (sinless)
Therefore only the Jesus icon can be deemed the son of perdition (the one who falls to the pit which Jesus did ACTS 2:27,
1 Peter 3:19, & Apostles Creed.

Lastly I fulfill over 4x as many claimed verses, as you say:
substantiated the words of Old Testament
it's why your faith has many sects that are Michaeline* not Jesuit. *(claim Michael is the Biblical Moshiach)
And yet how many Christians (those fooled and deceived by this image of the created man called Jesus) have called me crazy, thus
inadvertantly calling their own method of reasoning crazy and lesser fulfilled Jesus crazy.
Prerequisites of Moshiach in no way fulfilled by Jesus who REQUIRES:

"The Name"(HaShem)of God will be in his name-(EXODUS 23:20-21 & Hebrew Version of Micah 4:5)

Moshiach lifts the veil from our eyes.-Isaiah 25:7.

Moshiach must have his name in
"the bible" (Mikra)-Melakim
{I Kings8:43} Torah-Devarim 14:22

The Torah portions(Miketz,Shevitz)must
carry his first and last name.
Helps to know Hebrew; MIKEtz-
(Ketz; lit., `end': a particularly auspicious time for Mashiach to bring the exile to an end)

The name must be in the Temple (Mikdash)-
Melakim {I Kings8:43}(2Chronicles6)
Ma'aser Sheni in the Torah says
About tithing the produced food and eating it at the Temple:
“at the site that He shall choose to place His Name”
and the name must be in
the holy city of YeruShalem.
-(1 Kings 11:36 &in dead sea scrolls: Words of the Archangel Michael scroll 4Q529, 6Q23)
The Gemarah (Baba Batra 75)
Sefer D’varim (12:5, 11, 14, 18, 21; 14:23,24, 25; 15:20; 16:2, 6, 7, 11, 15, 16; 17:8, 10; 18:6; 26:2; 31:11)

The name must be remembered by the Sheva (7th) day kept holy.

The name must be revealed in all cultures to come together as one(Y'shv,Shiva,proper transliteration of Shalem, Al Laila,Mikado).
The first and last name and secret name will be revealed in the Bible(Dan 10:20-21 in Hebrew carries both).
The Moshiach must come from the Aaronic Lineage.-scrolls: lQS lX, ll which seems to be fragment omitted from 4QSe(4Q259).

The name must be of the remover of the devil and his works. The person must know the secret of returning to his inheritance. Must know and be a catalyst for process of messaging and a catalyst for the Tikkun Olam and resurrection process and involved in the movement to build the Temple. Has to be involved in being an intercessor, mediator, remover, archstrategist, fascilitator, teacher, judge etc....
None of these things have Jesus by name or deeds. Jesus was never the lead musician, never the arch strategist, never the
melchi tsadek, never the head priest head of host, never knew the secret name of God*
[Moshiach will know the secret wisdom of the name of God 4Q300I ii4=4Q299 2 i I4. ]*
(because the name is shared and the definition is the reflection and teaching),
Thus he
never defined God, never defeated Rome who in opposite liberation caused enslavement when they used the image to subvert the Jews and try to convert them into Baal worshipers. Caused thousands of wars and over 50 million murders over that image which is why they used the mark of the beast cross (predated sign of death & destruction) as their
Religious symbol.

Kehillah in Galatia 3 Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB)
1 O senseless Galatians, who bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach Yehoshua was publicly shown forth as having been TALUI AL HAETZ (hanging on the tree, DEVARIM 21:23).

2 This one thing only I want to learn from you: did you receive the Ruach HaKodesh by means of chukim of the Torah (laws of Torah) or by means of the hearing of emunah?

3 You lack seichel; having begun in the Ruach HaKodesh, will you now be perfected in the basar?

4 Did you suffer so many things lashav (in vain)?‖if it really was lashav.

5 So then, Hashem who is supplying to you the Ruach HaKodesh and producing nifla’ot (miracles) among you, by what means does He do it, by chukim of the Torah or by the hearing of emunah?

6 Just as Avraham Avinu HE’EMIN BA’HASHEM VAYACHSHEVEHA LO TZDAKAH ("believed Hashem and it [his faith] was accounted to him for righteousness" BERESHIS 15:6),

7 Know then, that the Bnei HaEmunah, these ones are the Bnei Avraham Avinu!

8 And the Kitvei HaKodesh, having foreseen that Hashem would yatzdik (justify) the Goyim by emunah, preached the Besuras HaGeulah beforehand to Avraham Avinu, saying "VENIVRECHU VO KOL GOYEI HA’ARETZ ("All the families, peoples of the earth will be blessed in you" BERESHIS 18:18; 12:3).

9 For this reason, the ones of emunah receive the bracha (blessing) with Avraham Avinu hama’amin (the believer).

10 For as many as are (seeking "YITZDAK IM HASHEM") by chukim of the Torah are under a kelalah (curse); for it has been written, ARUR ASHER LO YAKIM ES DIVREI HATORAH HAZOT LA’ASOT OTAM ("Cursed is everyone who does not uphold, abide by all the words of this Torah to do them, to carry them out" DEVARIM 27:26; cf Ya 2:10).

11 Now it is clear that not one person is YITZDAK IM HASHEM ("justified with G-d") by the Torah, because V’TZADDIK BE’EMUNATO YICHEYEH ("the righteous by his faith will live" CHABAKUK 2:4).

12 But the Torah is not of emunah, but the man YA’ASEH OTAM VACHAI ("who does these things will live" by them VAYIKRA 18:5).

13 Moshiach redeemed us from the kelalah (curse) of the Torah, having become a kelalah (curse) on behalf of us, because it has been written, KILELAT HASHEM is on NIVLATO TALUI AL HAETZ ("Curse of G-d is on the NEVELAH (body, corpse) being hanged on the tree" DEVARIM 21:23),

14 In order that to the Goyim the Bracha of Avraham Avinu might come by Moshiach Yehoshua, that the havtachah (promise) of the Ruach haKodesh we might receive through emunah.

15 Achim B’Moshiach, I speak according to human dimyon (analogy). Even a brit (covenant) having been confirmed by Bnei Adam no one sets aside or adds to it.

16 Now to Avraham Avinu were spoken the havtachot (promises) and to his ZERA ("seed" BERESHIS 22:18). He does not say V’LIZERAEHCHAH ("and to your seeds"), as concerning many, but as concerning one, "and to the ZERA of you", and that ZERA is Moshiach.

17 And this I say: a brit (covenant), which was previously confirmed by Hashem, cannot be annulled so as to abolish the havtachah (promise) by the Mattan Torah‖which was given arba me’ot usheloshim shanah [four hundred and thirty years later SHEMOT 12:40]).

18 For if the nachalah (inheritance) is based on Torah, it is no longer based on havtachah (promise); but Hashem has given the nachalah to Avraham Avinu by havtachah (promise).

19 Why then the Mattan Torah (Giving of the Torah)? The Torah was added because of peysha’im, until the ZERA (Moshiach) should come to whom the havtachah had been made (BERESHIS 22:18). Now the Torah was administered through malachim (DEVARIM 33:2; TEHILLIM 68:18) by the hand of a metavech (VAYIKRA 26:46; BAMIDBAR 36:13).

20 Now the metavech is not for only one, but Elohim hu echad (DEVARIM 6:4).

21 Is the Torah, mimeila (consequently, as a result), against the havtachot (promises) of Hashem? Chas v’Shalom (G-d forbid!)! For if Torah had been given that had the ko’ach (power) to affect hitkhadshut (regeneration), then to be YITZDAK IM HASHEM ("justified with G-d") would indeed have been based on chukim of the Torah.

22 But the Kitvei HaKodesh consigned all things under HaChet (Sin) [Ro 3:9], that the havtachah (promise) might be given by emunah in Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach Yehoshua to the ma’aminim.

23 But before Emunah came, we were being held in custody, being confined and guarded for the about-to-be- revealed Emunah.

24 This is the result: the Torah functioned as our omenet (governess) to lead us to Moshiach, that by emunah we might be YITZDAK IM HASHEM.

25 But Emunah having come, we are no longer under an omenet (governess).

26 For through emunah in Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach Yehoshua, you are all yeladim of Elohim.

27 For as many as have had a tevilah into Moshiach have clothed yourselves with Moshiach.

28 There is not Yehudi nor Yevani (Greek), there is not eved (servant) nor Ben Chorin (freedman), there is not zachar (male) nor nekevah (female), for you are all echad in Moshiach Yehoshua.

29 And, if you belong to Moshiach (YESHAYAH 53:10), then you are of the ZERA of Avraham Avinu, you are yoreshim (heirs) according to the havtachah (promise).

 

[Mudda]

Question, why do christians bow to statues?

It's better than kissing carpets.

 

[Cellblock2429]

What is the purpose of doing this?

/----- for the same reason we salute a flag. It's not the piece of cloth but what it represents.


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[fncceo]

It's better than kissing carpets.

Says you ...