Taz
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... A god that wants us to obey a book? No, not real.
A book is only a data repository. You can read something and totally misunderstand what's written there. You need a key. That's why we have also monks, nuns, priests, abbots, abbess, bishops and theologians who you are able to ask, if you don't understand what you read. Lots of lay people and clerics wrote books too during a long row of centuries. If you still do not understand then ask the Holy Spirit. But do not ask godless Islamists or supporters of abortion for example. Very bad bible interpreters. They do not even know how to interpret the simple 4 words "Thou shalt not kill". It will cause problems - and not only spiritual problems - if someone obeys not in this 4 words, whether someone reads the bible or not. And it are not the only 4 words of the bible. It has 5 words ... and even some more. I never counted them all. Perhaps it are even six or seven or ...
There's no proof that an invisible being wants us to obey a book.
If you should murder for example someone then my experience tells me this idiots will die - and you will become rich, will find a nice woman, will have nice children and your neighbors will respect you. You will grow old and you will die satisfied with the good results of your wonderful life. Perhaps some years after your death one of the idiots you forgot to murder will find out you had murdered his grandfather. About the other murderers of so many people of my families I know nothing at all. Perhaps they had a long happy life too. So: Your decision what to read and not to read - your decision what you like to understand and not to understand - your decision what to do and not to do. If you do not care about problems, you are causing for others, then you don't need god. That's true. God forces no one.
Who Am I?
by Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Who am I? They often tell me
I stepped from my cell’s confinement
Calmly, cheerfully, firmly,
Like a Squire from his country house.
Who am I? They often tell me
I used to speak to my warders
Freely and friendly and clearly,
As thought it were mine to command.
Who am I? They also tell me
I bore the days of misfortune
Equably, smilingly, proudly,
like one accustomed to win.
Am I then really that which other men tell of?
Or am I only what I myself know of myself?
Restless and longing and sick, like a bird in a cage,
Struggling for breath, as though hands were compressing my throat,
Yearning for colors, for flowers, for the voices of birds,
Thirsting for words of kindness, for neighborliness,
Tossing in expectations of great events,
Powerlessly trembling for friends at an infinite distance,
Weary and empty at praying, at thinking, at making,
Faint, and ready to say farewell to it all.
Who am I? This or the Other?
Am I one person today and tomorrow another?
Am I both at once? A hypocrite before others,
And before myself a contemptible woebegone weakling?
...
Who am I? They mock me, these lonely questions of mine.
Whoever I am, Thou knowest, dear God, I am thine!
source of the translation: Deitrich Bonhoeffer. Who Am I? by Deitrich Bonhoeffer
Just because I don't follow the bible doesn't mean that I'm going to kill someone, have no morals or what have you.
Anyways, doesn't the bible preach "an eye for an eye"?
PS I don't read copy&paste nonsense, nor do I watch dumb kraut movies that you ripped off.