Brian Blackwell
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No. Rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar’s means laws are valid only insofar as they are grounded in justice. A commitment to justice carries with it an obligation to disobey unjust laws.Give unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's and unto God the things that are God's
We are expected to follow laws UNLESS they go against God's Laws....then God's Laws are paramount
there are some real whackjobs out there that 'do' things in the name of god that are against the law.
There are whackjobs everywhere
Someone has to explain this to me...
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s - so what exactly is Caesar’s? The coin with his face on it seems reasonable. I would agree that money belongs to the government in some sense, as it is manipulated by government and not a true representation of value. Perhaps the mistake is in allowing money to represent labor and value in the first place (as anyone who understands how the Federal Reserve and fractional reserve banking works will surely agree).
But who here will say that the labor itself, which we (perhaps foolishly) allow to be represented by money, belongs to Caesar? If so, precisely how much? Caesar claims the right to dictate how much without consulting you, or God’s law, on the matter; so if he demands 100%, we are obliged to give it, as per the words of Jesus Christ? This would mean Jesus is condoning delivering yourself into outright slavery - the theft of the human body and its labor. Considering that theft is explicitly denounced by God, this is not a reasonable position.
Do you agree or disagree that laws are valid only insofar as they are grounded in justice?
Yes, I agree that laws are valid only insofar as they are in perfect accord with natural law, which define justice. Where governmental law violates man’s inherent self-ownership, it is invalid. Where it is valid, it is wholly redundant Thus it never serves as an authority in itself, but merely reflects the authority of the creator of the universe.