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I would like the human being and any other creationist to see this series of videos.
I have links to all 17 videos.
I have links to all 17 videos.
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Is this how the creationist wins the debate. With bad humour.I see. You do not understand the process of evolution. Perhaps you've seen to many croco-duck videos. The mutations are very slight. Un-noticable between each generation but after thousands of generations there is enough difference that a new spieces emerges from the original after many variations. Look at this colour graph. Imagine the first green line is a spieces. The last blue line represents another spieces. You can't pinpoint the exact time green became blue. It happened over a long period of time with minute variations between the gererations of offspring.Every species is a transition species. You are a transtition species.If evolution is correct we should be walking on the bones of the transition species.
And just what do you think I am going to transition into, a bear? A watermelon? A kitty?
Thousands and thousands and thousands and millions and millions of years. It's actually so slow it never even happened.
I would like the human being and any other creationist to see this series of videos.
I have links to all 1
I would like the human being and any other creationist to see this series of videos.
I have links to all 17 videos.
The Human Being is not interested. The Human Being has far more than 17 supporting Creationism. You guys don't have a lock on the video business.
Shouldn't you go outside and play in traffic?Our claims? You're a member of Team Zealot?I do wish you religious extremists would actually confirm your phony "quotes".a-m-i-n-o a-c-i-d-s
Tell me, how do they know if they are right or left handed and where specifically, they should adhere?
Which ones need to attach for your eyes to read this, right or left? How do they know that? How do they know that a left handed one needs to be next to 2 right handed amino acid strands to create protein?
And who made this statement?"The eye to this day, gives me a cold shudder because it is an organ of extreme perfection."
Your all-seeing, all-powerful "eye" quote is a staple of fundie Christian ministries and like so much that comes out of your madrasahs, it's a fake.
Here is the actual material:
Cretinism or Evilution Darwin Quotations on Complexity
You have offered nothing for us to research. You have actually posted nothing that actually contradicts any of our claims.
I've actually posted the content of a letter written by Charles Darwin to Asa Gray (the second bulleted item) which identifies the fraudulent "quote-mine" used by Team Zealot
Don't be an accomplice to fraud.
By Charles Darwin? Really?? LOL!! Charles Darwin is a fossil himself. He even made the title of his work "The Origin of the Species" in order to avoid the Biblical "each after his own kind" which would have lost his case for him.
Adam and Eve weren't even the first humans. Adam and Eve were the first on team Sons Of God, but other humans on team Daughters Of Men were already well established, as Adam and Eve discovered after leaving the garden.To each his own. My Mom was Eve. I am The Human Being.
None that I know. If they do, I would direct them to the Bible, because even science doesn't believe that premise since the discovery of DNA. That is what we use to win the debate.Some creationists actually believe the argument for evolution is that one spieces will give birth to another spieces.
MBENot one person here has addressed the scientific understanding, that it is impossible for chance to create a protein molecule. Molecular biology crippled the random theory. I have already provided the mathematical odds of your scenario. And it is far outside of the realm of possibility. Not one person on this thread can explain how amino acids were programed to create the complex life of a single cell.
Guess you never heard of Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Ken Hamm, Kent Hovind Etc...None that I know.Some creationists actually believe the argument for evolution is that one spieces will give birth to another spieces.
All these people ever do is quote scripture from the bible. Where have you been? Science has never supported that premise before or after DNA.If they do, I would direct them to the Bible, because even science doesn't believe that premise since the discovery of DNA.
Debate on what. We are talking about evolution but you keep switching back to Abiogenesis.That is what we use to win the debate.
Explained in post #787Not one person here has addressed the scientific understanding, that it is impossible for chance to create a protein molecule. Molecular biology crippled the random theory. I have already provided the mathematical odds of your scenario. And it is far outside of the realm of possibility. Not one person on this thread can explain how amino acids were programed to create the complex life of a single cell. Random is an impossibility, no longer supported by science.
Yes, we do know better. We also don't pretend that we will have all the answers surrounding Abiogenesis, but we acknowlege the best answers we have so far and we keep working on them to discover more mysteries.They know better.
"Pezz, post: 10026129, member: 51970"]MBENot one person here has addressed the scientific understanding, that it is impossible for chance to create a protein molecule. Molecular biology crippled the random theory. I have already provided the mathematical odds of your scenario. And it is far outside of the realm of possibility. Not one person on this thread can explain how amino acids were programed to create the complex life of a single cell.
Amino Acids Evolution Learn Science at Scitable
Happy reading
We have no evidence that any external influence at all 'programed' them. So far as we can tell, amino acids turned into proteins all on their own.Am aware and also know the problem they have. It is a perspective that still can't provide an answer to what programed the amino acids. That is why they say, "it may have", or "it probably reacted this way".
But here is their obstacle. After many long years of trying to get RNA to produce, all they have been able to do is get a very few partial molecules, and never a complete one in their soup. The RNA world has failed to produce. It is not responsible for coding amino acids.
I'm glad to see at least your tacit acceptance of the fraudulent "quote" you posted. With that in mind, do you get your biology from the same fraudulent christian ministries you get your "quotes" from?Shouldn't you go outside and play in traffic?Our claims? You're a member of Team Zealot?I do wish you religious extremists would actually confirm your phony "quotes".
Your all-seeing, all-powerful "eye" quote is a staple of fundie Christian ministries and like so much that comes out of your madrasahs, it's a fake.
Here is the actual material:
Cretinism or Evilution Darwin Quotations on Complexity
You have offered nothing for us to research. You have actually posted nothing that actually contradicts any of our claims.
I've actually posted the content of a letter written by Charles Darwin to Asa Gray (the second bulleted item) which identifies the fraudulent "quote-mine" used by Team Zealot
Don't be an accomplice to fraud.
By Charles Darwin? Really?? LOL!! Charles Darwin is a fossil himself. He even made the title of his work "The Origin of the Species" in order to avoid the Biblical "each after his own kind" which would have lost his case for him.
Ministers don't do DNA research. Those are "your" people, and they say that the odds of one living cell happening by chance is out of the realm of possibility. Random never happened. For life to begin, and before it begins, acids need to be encoded and directed to specific areas in the correct order. And they have to be aware of whether they are right handed or left handed. How does a right handed amino acid know which it is, and when and where to take it's place, and how does the left know it's a lefty?
There is no such thing as a simple cell, you simple ton.
The article you linked to actually refutes the contention you, and your creation ministries are hoping to make."Pezz, post: 10026129, member: 51970"]MBENot one person here has addressed the scientific understanding, that it is impossible for chance to create a protein molecule. Molecular biology crippled the random theory. I have already provided the mathematical odds of your scenario. And it is far outside of the realm of possibility. Not one person on this thread can explain how amino acids were programed to create the complex life of a single cell.
Amino Acids Evolution Learn Science at Scitable
Happy reading
Am aware and also know the problem they have. It is a perspective that still can't provide an answer to what programed the amino acids. That is why they say, "it may have", or "it probably reacted this way".
But here is their obstacle. After many long years of trying to get RNA to produce, all they have been able to do is get a very few partial molecules, and never a complete one in their soup. The RNA world has failed to produce. It is not responsible for coding amino acids.
Your banter has the unpleasant odor of Christian fundamentalist ministries.Shouldn't you go outside and play in traffic?Our claims? You're a member of Team Zealot?I do wish you religious extremists would actually confirm your phony "quotes".
Your all-seeing, all-powerful "eye" quote is a staple of fundie Christian ministries and like so much that comes out of your madrasahs, it's a fake.
Here is the actual material:
Cretinism or Evilution Darwin Quotations on Complexity
You have offered nothing for us to research. You have actually posted nothing that actually contradicts any of our claims.
I've actually posted the content of a letter written by Charles Darwin to Asa Gray (the second bulleted item) which identifies the fraudulent "quote-mine" used by Team Zealot
Don't be an accomplice to fraud.
By Charles Darwin? Really?? LOL!! Charles Darwin is a fossil himself. He even made the title of his work "The Origin of the Species" in order to avoid the Biblical "each after his own kind" which would have lost his case for him.
Ministers don't do DNA research. Those are "your" people, and they say that the odds of one living cell happening by chance is out of the realm of possibility. Random never happened. For life to begin, and before it begins, acids need to be encoded and directed to specific areas in the correct order. And they have to be aware of whether they are right handed or left handed. How does a right handed amino acid know which it is, and when and where to take it's place, and how does the left know it's a lefty?
There is no such thing as a simple cell, you simple ton.
or that there is a lot of dust beneath your brow......"By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."Is Eve your mother or is a rock your mother?
Genesis 3:19
.....so I guess that means the rock is my mother.
well somebody has to give birth to the first that qualifies as a new species......and logically, the mother of the first of a new species has to be a different species......If you are trying to be funny, it's not working. Some creationists actually believe the argument for evolution is that one spieces will give birth to another spieces.
I would like the human being and any other creationist to see this series of videos.
I have links to all 17 videos.
This is the unfortunate result of YEC'ists getting their science from fundamentalist Christian madrassah's.well somebody has to give birth to the first that qualifies as a new species......and logically, the mother of the first of a new species has to be a different species......If you are trying to be funny, it's not working. Some creationists actually believe the argument for evolution is that one spieces will give birth to another spieces.
It's possible that when a black hole gets too full, it explodes into another universe by ripping the fabric of time/space and creating a new one with a big bang. Could be very common, given the number of black holes in this universe.It all began with a BIG BANG. Everything was concentrated into an area the size of a pin head. Something unknown caused a huge explosion. Everything flew off in random directions. Why some planets rev.olve in opposite directions is unexplained as well. Where the energy that caused the Big Bang came into being in the first place is also unexplained. By chance, one world came out of the Bang and was able to sustain life. This life sprang from inorganic material. The evolution religion proclaims all life came from a rock. Christians claim an intelligent God created all life as well as everything else. Now, I must ask you: Is Eve your mother or is a rock your mother?
That's all you've got? Name calling? Because your bible only works if the flood wasn't global? And didn't kill all humans except for Noah and his peeps? And let's you cherry pick a little bit of evolution?thank god that's up to God and not to you.......because you're dumber than a stump......Is there a general agreement between Christians that the bible isn't true? I'm mean, if you're saying that the world wasn't made in 6 days, no flood, no talking snake... then you probably aren't a Christian.From your link: "The Bible (Genesis 6–9) describes a worldwide flood (the Noachian Flood) covering even the highest mountains of the earth". So the bible describes a worldwide flood.Well no, the bible doesn't say that. Christians just don't know how to read, and Atheists are to caught up trolling Christians to consider the truth. Here's a point-by-point breakdown of what the bible says: Yes Noah s Flood May Have Happened But Not Over the Whole Earth NCSEThe bible says otherwise. Please try again.
Anyway, I think this is a bait thread so since I'm not your target audience a link to the truth is all I have to say about this topic.
are you a bible literalist like Hollie?......
I asked: From your link: "this Adam was by no means the only man alive at his time." How do you explain this?......what on earth are you going on about......Adam and Eve had left Eden before the flood.......if you already knew the answer, why ask it?......the problem seems to be that you don't realize Christians have no problem recognizing that evolution explains why we have both yellow and blue butterflies and Swedes as well as Samoans.......the silly part comes in when you folks try to say that evolution means human beings and lemurs have a common ancestor.......(or that they WERE our ancestor)......Randy asked a question that he couldn't answer himself. Why do people look different? Without looking it up scientifically, I'd say that a) evolution, and b) some kinds of variables in each species genes? Is there another answer?obviously its the 'why' that's giving him the most trouble.....I see you are taking a while. To save you some time searching: Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster OnlineSo when Adam and Eve were kicked out of Eden, there were already other people on earth? Ummm. no.drowning.......From your link: "this Adam was by no means the only man alive at his time." How do you explain this?wtf.....you've never heard of mitochondrial eve?.......Do you have a link to a credible source?
will you consider Scientific American to be a credible source.....here's an article about DNA studies about both the genetic Adam and the genetic Eve....
Genetic Adam and Eve did not live too far apart in time Nature News Comment