Putin's Answer To Obama

[R.C. Christian]

Putin has every right in his sphere of influence to intervene military.

 

[novasteve]

Putin has every right in his sphere of influence to intervene military.

Not when it violates a treaty. Ukraine gave up its nukes on condition that Russian wouldn't do what it is doing.

 

[Nutz]

I say let Europe handle the Ukraine...the only problem is that there is a treaty signed by Russia, the UK, and the US. Principle is involved here...treaties are meant to be kept. Unilaterally breaking a treaty is pretty much an act of war. Even if we bend over and give Russia the state of Crimea, we look weak AND it gives Russia too much influence in the Black Sea (I think).

The trade off should be Crimea for Russia backing off of Syria to maintain a balance of power. Or, the US should, at the very least, increase aid to the rebels in Syria...of course, in the end we lose, because we all know any aid we give to the rebels in Syria will, at some point and time, end up as aid to Al Qaeda and the rest of the killer muslims who bblow up innocent women and children in the name of allah

 

[Nutz]

So the Russians approved sending troops to the Ukraine. Considering Obama is President...I say Russia has already won. We know Europe won't step up and we know the UK won't join the US in enforcing the treaty they already signed. Putin has one upped the US with Snowden, Syria, and Georgia...Im afraid the US has lost all respect and power...the only thing to fear militarily are drones...and they aren't gonna work against Russia.

Russian upper house approves use of military force in Ukraine - CNN.com

The Ukraine is like Texas, always seceding, rejoining, seceding, at least in their minds. It's big, rowdy and always thinking of itself as independent when really it couldn't stand on its own two legs for 6 months if it ever really actually had all governance and support withdrawn from it. It's neighbor to the north would always have a bigger military and it's "sovereignty" would be merely on paper, an idea instead of a factual reality. That's true with any small rowdy country. Everyone knows the Ukraine is part of Russia. I was shocked recently to learn it was thinking of itself as independent of Russia. In a way, the Ukrainians should be thanking the Russians because if left on their own, "you know who" would swoop in and install a puppet government. Then in no time they would have laws on their books requiring their kids to celebrate a pedophile and gay marriage. And they'd have no viable healthcare to speak of, massive unsustainable debt...you know...all the goodies that go along with a "free society" that is amoral, without check and worshipping at the altar of greed and self at the expense even of their fellow countryman. It's a fine line between patriotism and socialism. Should we discard them?

The problem with y'all is that you think that "Mr. Gorbechev tear down that wall!" was something other than stage fluff, a ruse, a lure to believe that the USSR is anything but what it is. It is now and always has been since the cold war, an idiological opponent to the US. Actually, it's more like we are just old playground enemies where there's always egotistical simmering going on.

Of course Russia is invading the Ukraine. If nothing else, it is a stage performance also. One grand stage performance. The only thing we should be worried about for Ukrainians after Russia reminds them they are still Russian, is if they have a nice warm place to live with a roof over their heads, enough food to eat, a little past time to enjoy and healthcare...

...hey..wait a minute... Can Russia come over here next?...lol.. [just kidding..]

Were you alive during the cold war? I think you are a little misguided if you think the cold war was nothing more than 'theater'

 

[novasteve]

I say let Europe handle the Ukraine...the only problem is that there is a treaty signed by Russia, the UK, and the US. Principle is involved here...treaties are meant to be kept. Unilaterally breaking a treaty is pretty much an act of war. Even if we bend over and give Russia the state of Crimea, we look weak AND it gives Russia too much influence in the Black Sea (I think).

The trade off should be Crimea for Russia backing off of Syria to maintain a balance of power. Or, the US should, at the very least, increase aid to the rebels in Syria...of course, in the end we lose, because we all know any aid we give to the rebels in Syria will, at some point and time, end up as aid to Al Qaeda and the rest of the killer muslims who bblow up innocent women and children in the name of allah

Unless the US comes out and supports Russia, this will only make the US look weak and hurt US interests around the world. China is thinking right now "we could take Taiwan, and nobody would do shit".

 

[Silhouette]

I say let Europe handle the Ukraine...the only problem is that there is a treaty signed by Russia, the UK, and the US. Principle is involved here...treaties are meant to be kept. Unilaterally breaking a treaty is pretty much an act of war. Even if we bend over and give Russia the state of Crimea, we look weak AND it gives Russia too much influence in the Black Sea (I think).

The trade off should be Crimea for Russia backing off of Syria to maintain a balance of power. Or, the US should, at the very least, increase aid to the rebels in Syria...of course, in the end we lose, because we all know any aid we give to the rebels in Syria will, at some point and time, end up as aid to Al Qaeda and the rest of the killer muslims who bblow up innocent women and children in the name of allah

Hmm... Would we sign a treaty with Russia if Texas wanted to secede as it often says it does, where we promised Russia we wouldn't take back Texas?

Yeah, no. Why is it we expect Russia to rein in Manifest Destiny when we are galloping it all over the planet, even on their turf and home base? We are so pompous, so arrogant, so completely smitten with our ideals of ourselves that we are utterly blind to the fact that Russians are humans and a superpower country just like we are. If we wouldn't sign a treaty with Russia to respect Texas' sovereinty if they seceded, why would we expect them to adhere to a treaty to respect the Ukraine's sovereignty?

And if we started doubling-down on using hydrolysis to run hydrogen cars and other types of renewable energy sources like geothermal or solar thermal steam and only used petrolium for plastics and big diesel engines to do the hauling, we could sustain with New World resources of oil and get clear the hell out of the ME. Let the Russians and Chinese have the Sandbox. And, have fun with that.. Without the American market and with the Russians and Chinese quickly following suit to keep their economies from hemorrhaging from maintaining military and political influence to keep that blackwater flowing to their countries, the Sandbox would be a non-player.

 

[Nutz]

I say let Europe handle the Ukraine...the only problem is that there is a treaty signed by Russia, the UK, and the US. Principle is involved here...treaties are meant to be kept. Unilaterally breaking a treaty is pretty much an act of war. Even if we bend over and give Russia the state of Crimea, we look weak AND it gives Russia too much influence in the Black Sea (I think).

The trade off should be Crimea for Russia backing off of Syria to maintain a balance of power. Or, the US should, at the very least, increase aid to the rebels in Syria...of course, in the end we lose, because we all know any aid we give to the rebels in Syria will, at some point and time, end up as aid to Al Qaeda and the rest of the killer muslims who bblow up innocent women and children in the name of allah

Hmm... Would we sign a treaty with Russia if Texas wanted to secede as it often says it does, where we promised Russia we wouldn't take back Texas?

Yeah, no. Why is it we expect Russia to rein in Manifest Destiny when we are galloping it all over the planet, even on their turf and home base? We are so pompous, so arrogant, so completely smitten with our ideals of ourselves that we are utterly blind to the fact that Russians are humans and a superpower country just like we are. If we wouldn't sign a treaty with Russia to respect Texas' sovereinty if they seceded, why would we expect them to adhere to a treaty to respect the Ukraine's sovereignty?

And if we started doubling-down on using hydrolysis to run hydrogen cars and other types of renewable energy sources like geothermal or solar thermal steam and only used petrolium for plastics and big diesel engines to do the hauling, we could sustain with New World resources of oil and get clear the hell out of the ME. Let the Russians and Chinese have the Sandbox. And, have fun with that.. Without the American market and with the Russians and Chinese quickly following suit to keep their economies from hemorrhaging from maintaining military and political influence to keep that blackwater flowing to their countries, the Sandbox would be a non-player.

wtf are you talking about?

 

[Richard-H]

The U.S. & NATO should seriously beef up their forces in the eastern most NATO allies. That would send a strong message to Russia.

 

[novasteve]

I say european nations need to beef up their own militaries. They rely on us so they can have their glorious socialistic welfare states.

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama is not providing western leadership for freedom and democracy as he should......therefore you have a commie dictator dealing with Germany, Britain, and the EU separately...while the weakling sits on the sidelines taking selfies at Happy Hour...

the marxist muslim POS is passively supporting communism imo....

This exposes the flaw where our allies are concerned.

Most of them cannot afford unilateral military action. They need logistical help from us. That's why Obama is trying to bankrupt us. He wants to put us in the same fiscal state.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

What happens between Russia and the Ukraine is between Russia and the Ukraine. It's not our business.

 

[Sallow]

Russia invaded Georgia while Bush was President.

Didn't see any Liberals siding with Putin or Russia back then.

Gotta love you guys.

y

No one is siding with the Commie, he is a disgusting human being with lots of blood on his hands, killing his own people.

The issue is Putin, has no respect for Obama and his administration. He has no respect for the United States of America and Obama doesn't have a clue, he is weak and our enemies and allies know it.

So a Sociopathic, ex-KGB, Authoritarian has no "respect" for the Leader of the Free world.

Here's a NEWSFLASH.

Pooty-poot had zero "respect" for Bush as well.

 

[Nutz]

What happens between Russia and the Ukraine is between Russia and the Ukraine. It's not our business.

eventhough the US and UK vowed to protect the Ukraine?

 

[mudwhistle]

Russia invaded Georgia while Bush was President.

Didn't see any Liberals siding with Putin or Russia back then.

Gotta love you guys.

y

No one is siding with the Commie, he is a disgusting human being with lots of blood on his hands, killing his own people.

The issue is Putin, has no respect for Obama and his administration. He has no respect for the United States of America and Obama doesn't have a clue, he is weak and our enemies and allies know it.

So a Sociopathic, ex-KGB, Authoritarian has no "respect" for the Leader of the Free world.

Here's a NEWSFLASH.

Pooty-poot had zero "respect" for Bush as well.

But he did fear him. Obama, not so much.

 

[NoNukes]

So you guys are with Putin on this.

Figures.

They love their Commie hero.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

What happens between Russia and the Ukraine is between Russia and the Ukraine. It's not our business.

eventhough the US and UK vowed to protect the Ukraine?

The Ukraine isn't a homogeneous mass. I'm sure there are plenty of Ukrainians who support Russian intervention, so what exactly would the US be protecting? Only their own interests, naturally.

 

[Katzndogz]

Putin has every right in his sphere of influence to intervene military.

Not when it violates a treaty. Ukraine gave up its nukes on condition that Russian wouldn't do what it is doing.

Ukraine was never a nuclear power.

Like it or not, 60% of the Ukranian population thinks of themselves as Russian.

 

[Katzndogz]

What happens between Russia and the Ukraine is between Russia and the Ukraine. It's not our business.

eventhough the US and UK vowed to protect the Ukraine?

The Ukraine isn't a homogeneous mass. I'm sure there are plenty of Ukrainians who support Russian intervention, so what exactly would the US be protecting? Only their own interests, naturally.

We don't have any interests there. The EU has some interests as a trading partner, but the US has zip in Ukraine.

 

[Iceweasel]

This could get interesting. The Russian Parliment asked Putin to recall their US ambassador. It could just be a in-your-face move to highlight the disregard of our administration. I doubt they think the US will actually do anything.

 

[R.C. Christian]

What happens between Russia and the Ukraine is between Russia and the Ukraine. It's not our business.

Didn't you know that everyone's business is the business of the U.S. empire?