Public schools breed mental instability

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

With all of the resources available online, schools are becoming increasingly irrelevant. Smart parents will home school, and do a FAR better job. Look at the test scores of home schooled kids - they are WAY higher.

B-B-B-But what about social interaction? OMG!!

Girl or Boy Scouts, homeschooling co-ops, local sports clubs, activities at the YMCA or the library, local board game groups, Church groups, etc.... Public schools do not hold a monopoly on socialization. Far from it.

The only thing stopping progress are Teachers Unions. Their days are numbered.

You really should not come out in the first sentence of your post and prove yourself clueless.

If parents want to homeschool, great! More power to them, but this claim of better test scores has no basis.

Unless you test all homeschooled kids to the same level as public school kids, you can never have a valid comparison.

Self-identifying homeschooled kids do much better on the SAT and ACT, but they should. The problem is what about all of those homeschooled kids who NEVER take the SAT or ACT and there are plenty! How well would they have done?

Many public school students, including all high school juniors in my state are required to take the ACT. How well do you think Little Johnny who is already working a co-op job as a machinist, and lives at home with a single Mom who is a high school dropout, is going to try on a test that has no impact on their life whatsoever? Think he will score as well as your college bound student raised by two married adults who are college graduates?

Please promote homeschooling all you want, but just don't lie about it.

As for teacher's unions, you are again clueless. What do they have to do with homeschooling? You never say. That's a red flag for someone parroting HSLDA talking points.

Don't take this personally, because I do like you and agree with you on most issues. We simply disagree on this topic.

You are essentially parroting teachers union talking points.....lemme guess you're a teacher? Of course you are!

Ask yourself - Who will take better care of your money- you or some random stranger?

How about your home? You or some random stranger?

your car? You or a random stranger?

Of course the answer to all of these questions is YOU. Unless you are a misfit, odds are you will always take better care of the things you love than some random stranger. Duh!!

But your children? It's better if a stranger takes care of them? : C'mon!


As for why I oppose the teachers unions- they exist for one purpose, to enrich their membership. They do not serve their students, they serve themselves. PERIOD. All Public sector unions are abhorrent and inherently wrong. Even FDR knew it.

The reason we disagree is your errors.

I am not a union member and have not been in many years. They screw the teachers when the school boards get finished.

I fully support homeschooling. My daughter-in-law homeschooled my granddaughter for 1st grade because the school was not meeting her needs. My daughter-in-law was also my all-time favorite student as I was her high school American government teacher.

What I do not support is unfounded statements like yours regarding testing. Yes, homeschool students should do better, but there is simply no definitive way to prove that. The individualized attention is invaluable and should result in much greater accomplishments. However, you have to prove that statement is true and that cannot be done.

As to unions, I don't think you understand a teacher's unions purpose. They exist to represent teachers in collective bargaining agreements with the employers and also see to the working conditions that teachers have in their employment. Of course they do not serve the students. Why should they? Do you think the Teamster's unions cares about the repair and maintenance of the trucks driven by their members? That would be ridiculous!

I also think you overestimate the influence or "power" of these unions. In most states, the school board writes up a contract and says "Sign here!" and that is the extent of the negotiation. The union's choice is to say "OK" or work without a contract. I might ask what you think happens. Strikes are illegal and the penalty is loss of your teaching certificates, which means you can no longer work in that state, nor any other that has a reciprocity agreement.

The problem with most critics of the public schools is that they have no clue as to how things really work in the schools.

Right now, I am a substitute teacher with 21 years experience. No district will hire me as a teacher because I make too much money. They can hire a 22 year-old out of college and pay them about 40% of what they would pay me, so I am basically unemployable in my own field.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Who's to say that a bunch of uneducated savages are any less mentally stable?

Look at the third world for one second to realize that this simply isn't so..Humans in general aren't stable.

Knowledge if anything helps create more stability.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Who's to say that a bunch of uneducated savages are any less mentally stable?

Look at the third world for one second to realize that this simply isn't so..Humans in general aren't stable.

Knowledge if anything helps create more stability.

One of the main reasons why we fight the islamic state and radical islam is because they do NOT respect civilization, knowledge outside of their religion and human rights. Am I right? I ask you how exactly is doing the same thing as they the right course for this nation?

 

[Unkotare]

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Ask yourself - Who will take better care of your money- you or some random stranger?

How about your home? You or some random stranger?

your car? You or a random stranger?

Of course the answer to all of these questions is YOU. Unless you are a misfit, odds are you will always take better care of the things you love than some random stranger. Duh!!.....

Do you take the same approach if your child needs a lawyer, a lifeguard, a policeman, a surgeon?

 

[Unkotare]

Get the Feds out. Problem solved. Inner city schools wont get any worse and suburban schools will massively improve.

How are the feds in?

 

[MindWars]

Who wrote the OP? The Federalist, Betsy Devos, or Claudia Tenney?

And we can bet you went to a public school where indoctrination to be an idiot fully succeeded

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1. The Size and Model of Mass Schooling Is Alienating
Back in 1929-30, there were about 248,000 public schools in the United States, according to the National Center for Education Statistics. How many today? Far less than half. By 2013-14, the number had shrunk to 98,000.


When you consider that the U.S. population nearly tripled in that timeframe, there’s no question this factory model of schooling has grown exponentially. The numbers speak to the intense bureaucratization of a public school system that is becoming more centralized with less local control, packing ever-larger numbers of students in one place. "


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[Windparadox]

It is time to give institutionalized teaching practices the boot. Defund them, lay off the teachers and start over. 13 Ways Public Schools Incubate Mental Instability In Kids

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I read the article and found myself agreeing with most of it. Urban public schools are the worse, in part, because there are minorities in large numbers that public schools must, by law, take in and a lot of those students have massive behavioral problems.
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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Who wrote the OP? The Federalist, Betsy Devos, or Claudia Tenney?

And we can bet you went to a public school where indoctrination to be an idiot fully succeeded

"
1. The Size and Model of Mass Schooling Is Alienating
Back in 1929-30, there were about 248,000 public schools in the United States, according to the National Center for Education Statistics. How many today? Far less than half. By 2013-14, the number had shrunk to 98,000.


When you consider that the U.S. population nearly tripled in that timeframe, there’s no question this factory model of schooling has grown exponentially. The numbers speak to the intense bureaucratization of a public school system that is becoming more centralized with less local control, packing ever-larger numbers of students in one place. "


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Your knowledge of American history is about on a third grade level. After the Great Depression, there were massive shifts in population toward the cities and the urbanization of America continues to this day. The schools had nothing to do with it, but had to react to it..

Congratulations! You have succeeded in your mission to become the ultimate dumbass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It is time to give institutionalized teaching practices the boot. Defund them, lay off the teachers and start over. 13 Ways Public Schools Incubate Mental Instability In Kids

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I read the article and found myself agreeing with most of it. Urban public schools are the worse, in part, because there are minorities in large numbers that public schools must, by law, take in and a lot of those students have massive behavioral problems.
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No they are not the "worse". Apparently the school you attended was not particularly stellar because you used the word "worse" instead of "worst'"!

Had you been correct, I might have agreed with you.

 

[Windparadox]

No they are not the "worse". Apparently the school you attended was not particularly stellar because you used the word "worse" instead of "worst'"!Had you been correct, I might have agreed with you.

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Whatever you say gramps. But I'm dealing in modern day problems and their solutions. Thanks however.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No they are not the "worse". Apparently the school you attended was not particularly stellar because you used the word "worse" instead of "worst'"!Had you been correct, I might have agreed with you.

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Whatever you say gramps. But I'm dealing in modern day problems and their solutions. Thanks however.

I think you should deal with your own faults before dissing others.

 

[Windparadox]

I think you should deal with your own faults before dissing others.

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Whatever you say gramps.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I think you should deal with your own faults before dissing others.

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Whatever you say gramps.

I hope to see you take this seriously. You have some good traits and I would hate for you to slip into a liberal abyss of stupidity.

 

[del]

whatever you say, gramps

 

[BulletProof]

Once local communities and taxpayers were robbed local control of schools by tyrant libtard judges, the public schools should have been closed down (actually, the libtard judges should have been impeached and executed).

Private schools have always been a superior option. And, now, thanks to modern technology, homeschooling is becoming a very viable option for any family with a stay-at-home parent.

 

[Zander]

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Ask yourself - Who will take better care of your money- you or some random stranger?

How about your home? You or some random stranger?

your car? You or a random stranger?

Of course the answer to all of these questions is YOU. Unless you are a misfit, odds are you will always take better care of the things you love than some random stranger. Duh!!.....

Do you take the same approach if your child needs a lawyer, a lifeguard, a policeman, a surgeon?

Fail. A child doesn't go to or need a lawyer, lifeguard, policeman, or surgeon 5 days a week.

 

[initforme]

Those who complain the most should surrender their earning potential, get in the classroom and help fix it. But they couldn't do it in all reality. Notice how no blame is put on the kid or parents...teachers are a natural scapegoat. Next.

 

[BulletProof]

Those who complain the most should surrender their earning potential, get in the classroom and help fix it. But they couldn't do it in all reality. Notice how no blame is put on the kid or parents...teachers are a natural scapegoat. Next.

Teachers are greatly to blame. Their union is overwhelmingly pushed Libtard positions that contribute to the breakdown of society and of school safety.

 

[Unkotare]

No they are not the "worse". Apparently the school you attended was not particularly stellar because you used the word "worse" instead of "worst'"!Had you been correct, I might have agreed with you.

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Whatever you say gramps. But I'm dealing in modern day problems and their solutions. Thanks however.

Proper grammar isn't a modern day problem? It seems that it is.

 

[del]

It is time to give institutionalized teaching practices the boot. Defund them, lay off the teachers and start over. 13 Ways Public Schools Incubate Mental Instability In Kids

just because you had a bad experience, allie, let's not throw out the baby with the bath water.