Prove it (or at least provide some evidence)!

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    1. Repealing the Bush Tax cuts and making Billionaires and Millionaires pay more in tax will kill jobs.

    2, Millionaires and Billionaires create jobs (name them and describe the jobs)

    3. Only the private sector creates jobs.

    4. Shrinking government will jump start our economy (explain how adding thousands to the unemployment roles will benefit commerce, small business and the real estate market).

    5. Gay & Lesbian Marriage threatens traditional marriage.

    6. Citizens United v. FEC is good for America.
     
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    4. Magic? :eusa_whistle:
     
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    1. look at the economic situation in the 1920s and compare that to the 1930s. Less taxes vs. high taxes perfect example.
    2. Name one job created by an entity that does not have capital. You can't.
    3. It is true. Economics 101, the government can not create wealth or jobs, it simply removes jobs from one sector and takes it for itself, or redistributes it through subsidies and entitlements. Wealth is only created by the private sector, read an economics book for further clarification. Perhaps economics in one lesson will get you started.
    4. So we take in 18% of GDP, we spend 20%. You would rather spend 26% and up taxes than lower spending and lower taxes which will actually encourage and provide an environment for people to create businesses and jobs? Do you have common sense? It sure doesn't seem so.
    5. State issue.
    6. Most would say liberty is a good thing to have, so yes. How could it not be? You want the government to have MORE power? Give me a break.
     
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    our taxes are historically low on the top teirs.

    Our deficit is historically high

    Gee it aint rocket sceince guys
     
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    they're historically lowest on the bottom tiers.. can you spell t i e r s?



    you are a class warfare warrior. moron.
     
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    Yes of course, we need to have more upward mobility of money. The Upper class isn't UPPER enough.

    Tax the poor!
     
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    spectrumc01 I give you....the TRUTH

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    1. Cant use that as an example because the laws of the 1920's and 1930's are not the same laws in place today. The laws of those era's have already been worked over and all loopholes exploited.
    2. Millionaires, Billionaires, and poor entrepreneurs create jobs. Not just the millionaires and billionaires.
    3. You should know that what is written in the "Economics 101" book plays out much differently in practice than in writing.
    4. Lowering taxes gives the business owner the option of pocketing the money, paying their employees more, or re investing in their business. In reality the worker and the consumer never sees the benefits of lower corprate taxes.
    5. Not a state or federal issue. It's nobody's business in a free country, remember?
    6. Liberty is a great thing, I wish we had it here in America. We have limited liberty here depending on what special intrest groups get government to do.
     
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    Well, the laws of the 1930's are in reaction to the great depression, they didn't cause it.
     
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    1. Huh? You need to explain this in more detail; the 20's were an example of excess, the 30's a period of depression.

    2. Small business is not started by billionaires and millionairs; the money is generally borrowed from banks which hold deposits by regular working stiffs (billionaires and millinaires don't keep their cash in savings accounts).

    3. The Government created the US Highway system which has has an estimated (CBO) 38% return on investment since its inception. Annual repairs, snow and ice removal, patrol officers, and hundreds of thousands of truck drivers who support restaurants along the way prove you're wrong.

    4. I'd prefer lowering spending and raising revenue based on a cost benefit anaylysis not making decisions based on dogma.

    5. Federal Issue, marriage is a civil right, "most would say liberty is a good thing".

    6. CU v. FEC is anti democratic.
     
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    well we obviously disagree, although I do not understand your take on #5. Where is marriage in the constitution? It's not there. Thus, the 10th amendment picks up the slack IF people deem it an issue which has happened.
     

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