Prohibiting hair styles is now racist in New York. Fine up to 250K

Where do you see a question mark in my last post?

I must not understand your scenario. Because unless somebody snuck up behind you and grabbed your pony tail, then you are in range of the centerline of his body.

Yes, BAR FIGHT.. grabbed from behind....ambushed and sucker-punched, kneed, kicked in the nuts....the whole show. BTW, how many UFC fighters do you see with any hair, much less a ponytail...other than Connor if he's grown one.
 
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Trust me... If ever I find myself in a bar, or any other physical fight, I will not have started it, and I'll be carrying the tools and skills required to end it.

Uh huh....well, kinda hard to use tools and skills (unless you carry a knife and are willing to stab your attacker in the nuts....what I'd do if I was in your fix) when some galoot has ahold of that ponytail, you can't raise your head above your waist, and are catching fists in the back of the head and knees to the face. I don't know what significance your ponytail has to you (going bald in front maybe?) but it can have serious consequences if somebody or something (like a revolving door or machine) catches hold of it....hell, you could catch it in a truck engine cooling fan blade (broken neck) or get dragged into wood chipper.....:eusa_doh:

That may be possible, but if you have training and somebody grabs your ponytail, you can still get the best of them.

A 9mm coming off your belt in a smooth and practiced motion can also keep things polite. ;)
 
That may be possible, but if you have training and somebody grabs your ponytail, you can still get the best of them.

Let's see....I grew up in Detroit, was ArmyAIT-trained in hand-to-hand, been in extensive combat, earned a Shodan in GoJuRyu Okinawan Karate, and owned and was the "cooler" in a nightclub breaking up dozens if not hundreds of bar fights....if there's a way to get out of somebody having ahold of a ponytail without getting the crap beat outta ya, I've never seen it.

Easy.

You declare as clearly and loudly as you can that you feel like your life is being threatened as you shoot them.

Easy.
 
Under new guidelines to be released this week by the New York City Commission on Human Rights, the targeting of people based on their hair or hairstyle, at work, school or in public spaces, will now be considered racial discrimination.

The change in law applies to anyone in New York City but is aimed at remedying the disparate treatment of black people; the guidelines specifically mention the right of New Yorkers to maintain their “natural hair, treated or untreated hairstyles such as locs, cornrows, twists, braids, Bantu knots, fades, Afros, and/or the right to keep hair in an uncut or untrimmed state.”

In practice, the guidelines give legal recourse to individuals who have been harassed, threatened, punished, demoted or fired because of the texture or style of their hair. The city commission can levy penalties up to $250,000 on defendants that are found in violation of the guidelines and there is no cap on damages. The commission can also force internal policy changes and rehirings at offending institutions.

The move was prompted in part by investigations after complaints from workers at two Bronx businesses — a medical facility in Morris Park and a nonprofit in Morrisania — as well as workers at an Upper East Side hair salon and a restaurant in the Howard Beach section of Queens. (The new guidelines do not interfere with health and safety reasons for wearing hair up or in a net, as long as the rules apply to everyone.)


New York City to Ban Discrimination Based on Hair

As a white lad in the 70's, I wore my hair longer. However it did present problems when being interviewed for a job. I was told straight out at some places of employment that if hired, I had to cut my hair. In private Catholic school, if your hair touched the top of your ears, you were sent home with a note to your parents you were suspended until you got your hair cut.

Whether for safety (working with machinery) health or simply appearance, employers and schools had the right to have standards on acceptable hair styles. I was alway told with jobs working with the public, the employee customers see represents the entire company.

So now in NY, that's entirely out the window, especially for minorities. If you don't want your cable television salesperson looking like a Jamaican refugee when he goes door to door, you can be fined 250K for not hiring that person. If you are hiring a receptionist for your corporation, you must hire the girl with half her purple hair down her back and the other half shaved like a marine.

Okay, so it's New York, it's their problem? Is it? This is what all of America can look like if we don't keep people like this from running our entire country.


Finally NY is Truly free again..pack me bags ima goin home

I can now do my hair just how i always wanted to
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That may be possible, but if you have training and somebody grabs your ponytail, you can still get the best of them.

Let's see....I grew up in Detroit, was ArmyAIT-trained in hand-to-hand, been in extensive combat, earned a Shodan in GoJuRyu Okinawan Karate, and owned and was the "cooler" in a nightclub breaking up dozens if not hundreds of bar fights....if there's a way to get out of somebody having ahold of a ponytail without getting the crap beat outta ya, I've never seen it.

Easy.

You declare as clearly and loudly as you can that you feel like your life is being threatened as you shoot them.

Easy.

You mean with a real gun or finger gun? :abgg2q.jpg:
 
As a man in his 60's who currently has a pony tail almost to my ass, I kind of like the freedoms guaranteed to me by The Constitution being enforced by somebody.

Kudos! :thup:
My dad also had a midlife crisis and grew his hair long in an attempt to be something he is not.

Funny stuff. You buy a Harley too?
Good for your dad.

I grew mine out because I have really, really nice hair, and I can.

Did not buy a Harley. I need a truck in my life right now.

But if I ever do buy a bike, it will be a Harley.
 
Under new guidelines to be released this week by the New York City Commission on Human Rights, the targeting of people based on their hair or hairstyle, at work, school or in public spaces, will now be considered racial discrimination.

The change in law applies to anyone in New York City but is aimed at remedying the disparate treatment of black people; the guidelines specifically mention the right of New Yorkers to maintain their “natural hair, treated or untreated hairstyles such as locs, cornrows, twists, braids, Bantu knots, fades, Afros, and/or the right to keep hair in an uncut or untrimmed state.”

In practice, the guidelines give legal recourse to individuals who have been harassed, threatened, punished, demoted or fired because of the texture or style of their hair. The city commission can levy penalties up to $250,000 on defendants that are found in violation of the guidelines and there is no cap on damages. The commission can also force internal policy changes and rehirings at offending institutions.

The move was prompted in part by investigations after complaints from workers at two Bronx businesses — a medical facility in Morris Park and a nonprofit in Morrisania — as well as workers at an Upper East Side hair salon and a restaurant in the Howard Beach section of Queens. (The new guidelines do not interfere with health and safety reasons for wearing hair up or in a net, as long as the rules apply to everyone.)


New York City to Ban Discrimination Based on Hair

As a white lad in the 70's, I wore my hair longer. However it did present problems when being interviewed for a job. I was told straight out at some places of employment that if hired, I had to cut my hair. In private Catholic school, if your hair touched the top of your ears, you were sent home with a note to your parents you were suspended until you got your hair cut.

Whether for safety (working with machinery) health or simply appearance, employers and schools had the right to have standards on acceptable hair styles. I was alway told with jobs working with the public, the employee customers see represents the entire company.

So now in NY, that's entirely out the window, especially for minorities. If you don't want your cable television salesperson looking like a Jamaican refugee when he goes door to door, you can be fined 250K for not hiring that person. If you are hiring a receptionist for your corporation, you must hire the girl with half her purple hair down her back and the other half shaved like a marine.

Okay, so it's New York, it's their problem? Is it? This is what all of America can look like if we don't keep people like this from running our entire country.


Finally NY is Truly free again..pack me bags ima goin home

I can now do my hair just how i always wanted to
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Ya gotta love it. What are these people thinking anyway? "I'm going to dress up like this because I don't want to draw any attention to myself."
 
As a man in his 60's who currently has a pony tail almost to my ass, I kind of like the freedoms guaranteed to me by The Constitution being enforced by somebody.

Kudos! :thup:
My dad also had a midlife crisis and grew his hair long in an attempt to be something he is not.

Funny stuff. You buy a Harley too?
Good for your dad.

I grew mine out because I have really, really nice hair, and I can.

Did not buy a Harley. I need a truck in my life right now.

But if I ever do buy a bike, it will be a Harley.

I wouldn't' mind having long hair again, I just can't afford all that Grecian Formula.
 
That may be possible, but if you have training and somebody grabs your ponytail, you can still get the best of them.

Let's see....I grew up in Detroit, was ArmyAIT-trained in hand-to-hand, been in extensive combat, earned a Shodan in GoJuRyu Okinawan Karate, and owned and was the "cooler" in a nightclub breaking up dozens if not hundreds of bar fights....if there's a way to get out of somebody having ahold of a ponytail without getting the crap beat outta ya, I've never seen it.

Easy.

You declare as clearly and loudly as you can that you feel like your life is being threatened as you shoot them.

Easy.

You mean with a real gun or finger gun? :abgg2q.jpg:

:eusa_think:







What caliber finger? :dunno:
 
As a man in his 60's who currently has a pony tail almost to my ass, I kind of like the freedoms guaranteed to me by The Constitution being enforced by somebody.

Kudos! :thup:
My dad also had a midlife crisis and grew his hair long in an attempt to be something he is not.

Funny stuff. You buy a Harley too?
Good for your dad.

I grew mine out because I have really, really nice hair, and I can.

Did not buy a Harley. I need a truck in my life right now.

But if I ever do buy a bike, it will be a Harley.
Trucks are good. Like my almost 20-year-old truck. It got the princess treatment today. Got a tire for the little twit. I had a flat tire that threatened to ruin the rim. So...I forgot about it acting up the other day. And today, a friend of mine was at Walmart and pointed out how flat my tire was. So I slowly rolled her over to the tire place in the Walmart parking lot, and they replaced it. Now, she's fine again.

Sounds like your ponytail is about 6 inches longer than mine, which finally grew below my shoulder blades. Way to go, Joe.
 
That may be possible, but if you have training and somebody grabs your ponytail, you can still get the best of them.

Let's see....I grew up in Detroit, was ArmyAIT-trained in hand-to-hand, been in extensive combat, earned a Shodan in GoJuRyu Okinawan Karate, and owned and was the "cooler" in a nightclub breaking up dozens if not hundreds of bar fights....if there's a way to get out of somebody having ahold of a ponytail without getting the crap beat outta ya, I've never seen it.

Easy.

You declare as clearly and loudly as you can that you feel like your life is being threatened as you shoot them.

Easy.

You mean with a real gun or finger gun? :abgg2q.jpg:

:eusa_think:

What caliber finger? :dunno:
Fingers are calibrated in joints. Just don't tell the cop you got 3 joints.
 
Long or short or no hair

People should do as they please!

For stupid New York to rule about hair is beyond moronic!

Want To Puke!
 
Trust me... If ever I find myself in a bar, or any other physical fight, I will not have started it, and I'll be carrying the tools and skills required to end it.
Uh huh....well, kinda hard to use tools and skills (unless you carry a knife and are willing to stab your attacker in the nuts....what I'd do if I was in your fix) when some galoot has ahold of that ponytail, you can't raise your head above your waist, and are catching fists in the back of the head and knees to the face. I don't know what significance your ponytail has to you (going bald in front maybe?) but it can have serious consequences if somebody or something (like a revolving door or machine) catches hold of it....hell, you could catch it in a truck engine cooling fan blade (broken neck) or get dragged into wood chipper.....:eusa_doh:

I cannot relate to such an unlucky life!

Wearing a ponytail requires a little more attention than a 'kojak', sure, but with just a smidge of luck, intelligence, investment in protective gear and planning, you can do just about anything humanly possible while having ponytail-length hair.

Just ask any girl.




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What is next for New York?

To rule on the length of your toenails?

I want to puke again.
 
Long or short or no hair

People should do as they please!

For stupid New York to rule about hair is beyond moronic!

Want To Puke!
Now Skye, they havta deprive the big-town libbies in specifics to ameliorate the frivolity of their lawsuits.
 
As a man in his 60's who currently has a pony tail almost to my ass, I kind of like the freedoms guaranteed to me by The Constitution being enforced by somebody.

Kudos! :thup:
My dad also had a midlife crisis and grew his hair long in an attempt to be something he is not.

Funny stuff. You buy a Harley too?
Good for your dad.

I grew mine out because I have really, really nice hair, and I can.

Did not buy a Harley. I need a truck in my life right now.

But if I ever do buy a bike, it will be a Harley.

I wouldn't' mind having long hair again, I just can't afford all that Grecian Formula.
Well! Lady Clairol is exponentially higher than Grecian Formula, plus you have to cover your roots every 10 days with more. Grecian Formula is a bargain by comparison.
 
As a man in his 60's who currently has a pony tail almost to my ass, I kind of like the freedoms guaranteed to me by The Constitution being enforced by somebody.

Kudos! :thup:
My dad also had a midlife crisis and grew his hair long in an attempt to be something he is not.

Funny stuff. You buy a Harley too?
Good for your dad.

I grew mine out because I have really, really nice hair, and I can.

Did not buy a Harley. I need a truck in my life right now.

But if I ever do buy a bike, it will be a Harley.

I wouldn't' mind having long hair again, I just can't afford all that Grecian Formula.
Well! Lady Clairol is exponentially higher than Grecian Formula, plus you have to cover your roots every 10 days with more. Grecian Formula is a bargain by comparison.

I can't dye it because it grows too fast and too thick. I guess I should be grateful at my age, however Grecian is the only thing that works because I can apply it easily as my hair grows.
 
Long or short or no hair

People should do as they please!

For stupid New York to rule about hair is beyond moronic!

Want To Puke!

That's what started this. People do want to do as they please. What they are writing laws against are institutions that discriminate based on hair style. If you have a dress code in your company, you can't rule out any kind of hair as it's now considered racist.
 
Under new guidelines to be released this week by the New York City Commission on Human Rights, the targeting of people based on their hair or hairstyle, at work, school or in public spaces, will now be considered racial discrimination.

The change in law applies to anyone in New York City but is aimed at remedying the disparate treatment of black people; the guidelines specifically mention the right of New Yorkers to maintain their “natural hair, treated or untreated hairstyles such as locs, cornrows, twists, braids, Bantu knots, fades, Afros, and/or the right to keep hair in an uncut or untrimmed state.”

In practice, the guidelines give legal recourse to individuals who have been harassed, threatened, punished, demoted or fired because of the texture or style of their hair. The city commission can levy penalties up to $250,000 on defendants that are found in violation of the guidelines and there is no cap on damages. The commission can also force internal policy changes and rehirings at offending institutions.

The move was prompted in part by investigations after complaints from workers at two Bronx businesses — a medical facility in Morris Park and a nonprofit in Morrisania — as well as workers at an Upper East Side hair salon and a restaurant in the Howard Beach section of Queens. (The new guidelines do not interfere with health and safety reasons for wearing hair up or in a net, as long as the rules apply to everyone.)


New York City to Ban Discrimination Based on Hair

As a white lad in the 70's, I wore my hair longer. However it did present problems when being interviewed for a job. I was told straight out at some places of employment that if hired, I had to cut my hair. In private Catholic school, if your hair touched the top of your ears, you were sent home with a note to your parents you were suspended until you got your hair cut.

Whether for safety (working with machinery) health or simply appearance, employers and schools had the right to have standards on acceptable hair styles. I was alway told with jobs working with the public, the employee customers see represents the entire company.

So now in NY, that's entirely out the window, especially for minorities. If you don't want your cable television salesperson looking like a Jamaican refugee when he goes door to door, you can be fined 250K for not hiring that person. If you are hiring a receptionist for your corporation, you must hire the girl with half her purple hair down her back and the other half shaved like a marine.

Okay, so it's New York, it's their problem? Is it? This is what all of America can look like if we don't keep people like this from running our entire country.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. What this means is that as an employer, I will be unlikely to hire anyone who even remotely looks bad, or has a questionable hair style.

For example, if they show up with their hair under a net, I'm not going to risk it. Because if I hire that person, and then they show up without the net, and their hair is insane, I could risk getting sued if I fire them. But if I don't fire them, and I lose customers because they look like a freak, then I'm screwed either way.

So instead, I'll just be less likely to hire a minority.

Brilliant job left-wingers. Screwing over the people you claim to represent, one bad policy at a time.
 

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