Probable End To Shutdown

How do you think shutdown ends?

  • President Trump folds,gets no money for wall

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Pelosi folds and gives President Trump money for wall

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pelosi accepts President Trump's proposal of money for protection for DACA

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Trump accepts amnesty for DACA and gets money for wall

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Shut down doesn't end until 2020

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Trump declares national emergency and builds wall

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Pelosi faces civil war in democrat party and folds

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Trump faces civil war in GOP and folds

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    10
Many departments of the government are running out of money.

Including the courts.

The federal courts only have enough money to continue until February. Then they also shutdown. TSA and ICE will run out of money soon. Along with other important organizations that need to be funded and kept open.

The very possible end to this shutdown is that mcconell won't want to lose his seat in the Senate. He's up for reelection in 2020. Along with a lot of republicans. They all know that the majority of the people don't want this wall. They know that the majority of the people blame all this on trump and the republicans. All those republicans who are up for reelection are going to want to get the government open so they can keep their jobs. Or at least try to keep their jobs.

It's very possible that the congress will pass legislation without any money for the wall. They will send it to trump. He has 10 days to sign it. If he doesn't sign it, it becomes law. Or he can veto it. It will go back to congress. The congress will override his veto.

The government reopens.

trump and his supporters can save face by saying he voted it. Then spend the next 2 years lying about the whole thing to blame it all on democrats.
Dont hold your breath...Until President Trump gets his funding for the wall, he isnt going to cave to the Democrats like Ronald Reagan did with Tip O'neil. Fool US once shame on you, fool US twice shame on US. Go fuck yourself you traitorous commie you, you want to live with the Latino's , move down south, and live your dream of a 3rd world country, just leave your passport at the new wall on your way out..



Seriously did you read my post?

Do you know how our government works?

When both the House of Reps and the Senate pass a bill it goes to the president's desk for his signature. He has 10 days to sign it or veto it. If he does nothing, it automatically becomes law.

If he vetos it, it can go back to the congress for a vote to override that veto.

That legislation doesn't need trump to sign it to become law.

All it needs is for republicans to vote for it and to vote to override the veto. All that needs is for republicans to want to keep their Senate seats and majority in the Senate.

Who do you think republicans in the Senate would choose?

trump?

Or themselves?
Yes I am quite intimate with how the government works. 1 in 5 government employees are essential, the rest just sit on their asses all day, watching CNN on the 75 inch LEDs or doing on line shopping at Ebay or Amazon. I have seen plenty not even show up for work, called "tele-working" and those mostly put in 1 hour a day then go out to their shopping malls or country clubs..

Just as a matter of fact, you need 60 votes in the Senate for any bill to pass, and you really think that Mitch will side with the Democrats, who are acting like spoiled little children not getting their way? The US citizens are seeing this, while the Lame Stream Media is pushing it all as President Trumps fault, but you do know President Trump's dirty little secret? He uses twitter to communicate with the populace, voters see who isnt acting like adults about our southern border...
 
Well as the heat from bad PR has been turned up on Mitch he will now do something to help keep his job. but what will it be?



Kentucky ranks second in states most dependent on the federal government for their state budgets.

That's a lot of people on public assistance, farm subsidies and federal government jobs.

McConnell is up for reelection in 2020.

He wants to keep his seat in the Senate and he wants to keep his job as the Senate Majority Leader.
Too bad for Mitch. He is fucked.
 
I have seen polls that say most people want the wall and i have seen them say the opposite.
You dont have a clue what americans want.
Yeah? Let's see the polls, plural, saying most people want the wall. I'm sure you'll excuse me not holding my breath.
 
This shutdown will go on and on until the diabetics start dying for lack of money to buy insulin. I hope either Trump declares a national emergency, or Mitch goes nuclear and passes a Budget w/o democrats. That would let the dems know whose fault it is not to put up a workable Budget.
 
Well as the heat from bad PR has been turned up on Mitch he will now do something to help keep his job. but what will it be?



Kentucky ranks second in states most dependent on the federal government for their state budgets.

That's a lot of people on public assistance, farm subsidies and federal government jobs.

McConnell is up for reelection in 2020.

He wants to keep his seat in the Senate and he wants to keep his job as the Senate Majority Leader.
All of those progressive blue states with people on public assistance and high taxes are not chopped liver.
 
If Nancy Pelosi had shut down the Government until Republicans agreed to repeal the 2018 tax cuts or pass Medicaid for all

Would Republicans be screaming for Trump to negotiate?
 
If Nancy Pelosi had shut down the Government until Republicans agreed to repeal the 2018 tax cuts or pass Medicaid for all

Would Republicans be screaming for Trump to negotiate?

She did.

JO
Doesn’t work like that

The person making a demand in return for opening the government is the one who shut it down

Who is demanding a wall?
 
Wrong.
She and Chuckie shut down the government by demanding the exploitation of children and the invitation of criminals into the country and throwing a childish tantrum when reasonable people rejected those nefarious demands

Putting American lives in danger in favor of foreigners....it's what the Left does best. (at least they're consistent)
 
If Nancy Pelosi had shut down the Government until Republicans agreed to repeal the 2018 tax cuts or pass Medicaid for all

Would Republicans be screaming for Trump to negotiate?
She could not have shut down the govt. since the GOP was in charge of the House before the govt. shutdown.
 
Wrong.
She and Chuckie shut down the government by demanding the exploitation of children and the invitation of criminals into the country and throwing a childish tantrum when reasonable people rejected those nefarious demands
Moving was offered by the Dems just none for an expansion of the border barrier.
 
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The Medicare for all item costs multi-trillions of dollars. Hardly a fair trade for $5.7b.
Even the tax cuts are hundreds of billions. Still not a fair trade.
Think smaller, about $10b or so,
 
Wrong.
She and Chuckie shut down the government by demanding the exploitation of children and the invitation of criminals into the country and throwing a childish tantrum when reasonable people rejected those nefarious demands

Putting American lives in danger in favor of foreigners....it's what the Left does best. (at least they're consistent)
Wrong again

They are not making demands in return for opening the Government. It is not their issue

Now, answer

What if Pelosi was demanding repeal of the 2018 tax cuts to open government

Would you negotiate
 
The Medicare for all item costs multi-trillions of dollars. Hardly a fair trade for $5.7b.
Even the tax cuts are hundreds of billions. Still not a fair trade.
Think smaller, about $10b or so,
I’m not talking trade

What if the shutdown were for Medicare for all

Would you negotiate to reopen the government?
 

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