President Trump considering FIRING Rosenstein!

What they need is for Trump to order the release of the DOJ paperwork requested by the House Intel and Oversight Committee's. Once they have that,
the can show Rosenstein used the Dossier for the Warrant, without verifying its
facts.

That gives Trump the right to fire him for improperly discharging his duties. (Why does everybody think the FBI and DOJ are slow walking this stuff.)
Then there isn't even a hint of obstruction of justice...just the firing of an assist
AG who can't follow the law.

Then the new boss of Mueller forces Mueller to get back on track with Collusion
with the Russians. No collusion, the special council is dismissed because there is no case.

Trump needs to give a Presidential Order to the DOJ for all those documents
to be released immediately. Then go from there
DOJ is stonewalling because they are building an airtight case against Trump and they don't want to tip their hand.

If DOJ gives that information to the committee, then the Republicans on the committee will go squealing to Trump.

That would give Trump the time he needs to further obstruct justice.

You don't take orders regarding an investigation from the object of the investigation.

If Trump issues such an order, the DOJ needs to go to the independent Judicial Branch for immediate injunctive relief.

And they'll get it.

All Trump will accomplish is another in a never-ending series of Bad Optics and Failed Bullying Sorties.

And a further fanning of the flames of perception that he is Guilty As Sin.

But ya'll go right ahead and try.

Please try.

We triple-dog-dare ya.
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From what i understand, DJT eventually fires everyone in his business, political, and family life

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Yes, O Imperial Cheeto, please DO try to fire Mueller or his boss (Rosenstein)...

You'll give the Department of Justice
precisely what it needs to lock-down Obstruction of Justice...

So glaringly obvious and convincing that even Republicans will be obliged to Impeach AND Convict, for High Crimes...

Are you that foolish, Herr Drumpf?

C'mon, Cadet Bone Spurs... go for it... we Triple-Dog-Dare ya...

A president can't be indicted for obstruction of justice for exercising his Constitutional powers.
 
Yes, O Imperial Cheetoh, please DO try to fire Mueller or his boss (Rosenstein)...

You'll give the Department of Justice
precisely what it needs to lock-down Obstruction of Justice...

So glaringly obvious and convincing that even Republicans will be obliged to Impeach AND Convict, for High Crimes...

Are you that foolish, Herr Drumpf?

C'mon, Cadet Bone Spurs... go for it.
Just like Comey and Sessions and ANYONE else in a position such as that they ALL serve at the pleasure of the President. :)
Firing Comey made his own campaign a target, and Sessions recused himself, against the will of the president.

Way to pick the two worst examples, genius...

trump has said, Tweeted, and done things that Nixon would never have dreamed of. He is illustrating to Mueller and the World that he is desperately trying to stop this investigation. He is providing the very deginition of obstruction of justice., but....

1. The investigation will continue, no matter who is overseeing Mueller.
2. Mueller has already compiled a lot of information that is going to be very damaging to members of the royal crime family.
3. The Senate knows what is up to and will be sure to only approve someone who is going to be independent.
4. Trump will be dead politically if he fires Rosenstein, which makes me think whatever the FBI gleaned from the Cohen search is very serious.
5. Firing Rosenstein will even bring some Republicans across the aisle. Trump will not automatically get his nominee for a replacement.

Pure unadulterated horseshit.
 
Yes, O Imperial Cheeto, please DO try to fire Mueller or his boss (Rosenstein)...

You'll give the Department of Justice
precisely what it needs to lock-down Obstruction of Justice...

So glaringly obvious and convincing that even Republicans will be obliged to Impeach AND Convict, for High Crimes...

Are you that foolish, Herr Drumpf?

C'mon, Cadet Bone Spurs... go for it... we Triple-Dog-Dare ya...

A president can't be indicted for obstruction of justice for exercising his Constitutional powers.
He can be accused in the House of "high crimes and misdemeanors" (translation: Obstruction of Justice).

He can be impeached by the House.

He can be convicted by the Senate.

Then he can be indicted.

Failing that, DOJ waits until he leaves office.

Then he can be indicted.

The split-second your boy fires either Rosenstein or Mueller (directly or indirectly) or even Sessions, he's dog-meat, at-law.

So please continue to believe otherwise.

Goad your boy on... get him to try it.

Please.

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Added to which, there are a substantial number of Constitutional scholars who say he can be indicted while in office; who can argue that case.
 
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Yes, O Imperial Cheeto, please DO try to fire Mueller or his boss (Rosenstein)...

You'll give the Department of Justice
precisely what it needs to lock-down Obstruction of Justice...

So glaringly obvious and convincing that even Republicans will be obliged to Impeach AND Convict, for High Crimes...

Are you that foolish, Herr Drumpf?

C'mon, Cadet Bone Spurs... go for it... we Triple-Dog-Dare ya...

A president can't be indicted for obstruction of justice for exercising his Constitutional powers.
He can be accused in the House of "high crimes and misdemeanors" (translation: Obstruction of Justice).

He can be impeached by the House.

He can be convicted by the Senate.

Then he can be indicted.

Failing that, DOJ waits until he leaves office.

Then he can be indicted.

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Added to which, there are a substantial number of Constitutional scholars who say he can be indicted while in office; who can argue that case.

The House can impeach him at any time for any reason, if they have the votes. That's purely a political decision. He can't be charged in a court of law for exercising his constitutional authority, period.
 
Yes, O Imperial Cheeto, please DO try to fire Mueller or his boss (Rosenstein)...

You'll give the Department of Justice
precisely what it needs to lock-down Obstruction of Justice...

So glaringly obvious and convincing that even Republicans will be obliged to Impeach AND Convict, for High Crimes...

Are you that foolish, Herr Drumpf?

C'mon, Cadet Bone Spurs... go for it... we Triple-Dog-Dare ya...

A president can't be indicted for obstruction of justice for exercising his Constitutional powers.
He can be accused in the House of "high crimes and misdemeanors" (translation: Obstruction of Justice).

He can be impeached by the House.

He can be convicted by the Senate.

Then he can be indicted.

Failing that, DOJ waits until he leaves office.

Then he can be indicted.

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Added to which, there are a substantial number of Constitutional scholars who say he can be indicted while in office; who can argue that case.

The House can impeach him at any time for any reason, if they have the votes. That's purely a political decision. He can't be charged in a court of law for exercising his constitutional authority, period.
Unless he uses that authority in a manner prohibited by law.

But you go right on ahead believing otherwise.

Please.
 
Yes, O Imperial Cheeto, please DO try to fire Mueller or his boss (Rosenstein)...

You'll give the Department of Justice
precisely what it needs to lock-down Obstruction of Justice...

So glaringly obvious and convincing that even Republicans will be obliged to Impeach AND Convict, for High Crimes...

Are you that foolish, Herr Drumpf?

C'mon, Cadet Bone Spurs... go for it... we Triple-Dog-Dare ya...

A president can't be indicted for obstruction of justice for exercising his Constitutional powers.
He can be accused in the House of "high crimes and misdemeanors" (translation: Obstruction of Justice).

He can be impeached by the House.

He can be convicted by the Senate.

Then he can be indicted.

Failing that, DOJ waits until he leaves office.

Then he can be indicted.

----------------------------------

Added to which, there are a substantial number of Constitutional scholars who say he can be indicted while in office; who can argue that case.

The House can impeach him at any time for any reason, if they have the votes. That's purely a political decision. He can't be charged in a court of law for exercising his constitutional authority, period.
Unless he uses that authority in a manner prohibited by law.

But you go right on ahead believing otherwise.

Please.

There's no manner that is prohibited by law. He can fire his subordinates at any time for any reason.
 
Paul Ryan jumps ship. The Dems roll in November. If trump fires Rosenstein....he will be Impeached in 2019.....count on it.
 
A president can't be indicted for obstruction of justice for exercising his Constitutional powers.
Thank you fox news, 10 months ago. But that is silly, because he would not be charged with a crime for exercising his constitutional power. He would be charged for his intent.
 
He can fire his subordinates at any time for any reason.
And he can also be charged with a crime, if firing them was from criminal intent.

I don't think you're getting this.

Not an appointee. Rosenstein can be fired by the POTUS with or without
cause.

There can be no obstruction of justice for firing Comey for two good reasons

The first is Comey is an appointee. The second reason is even better.
Rosenstein wrote the letter suggesting that the POTUS fire Comey.
As the Assist AG...he is in charge of the special counsel, who would
bring the charges of obstruction. It is against the law for Rosenstein
to be over a case where he is the chief witness for the defense.

Rosenstein should have recused himself from this case before Sessions.

You guys are begging but you have nothing. Trump could fire Rosenstein
for not recuing himself, for the reasons mentioned.

Y'all keep begging though
 
If it can be for any reason, then how can it be criminal
If it is done with criminal intent. Yes, that's a crime. You guys are holding an empty bag.

The tough part would be proving intent.

It doesn't matter what is intent was. How could it possibly be criminal?
Of course it matters. That's what the trial is for. For example, if it is proven that Trump fired one guy and hired another because it favored his business and he was paid to fired and hire, he could be impeached.

Yes, it matters.
 
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A president can't be indicted for obstruction of justice for exercising his Constitutional powers.
Thank you fox news, 10 months ago. But that is silly, because he would not be charged with a crime for exercising his constitutional power. He would be charged for his intent.

If his intent was to stop the Russian investigation....that is obstruction of justice. He said publicly on national TV that it was the "Russian thing."

Can u imagine Nixon saying to Walter Cronkite....it was the tape thing.
 

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