New Poll: Obama worst President in 70 years

All depends on how Obama proceeds the next 2 & 1/2 years.

Is that when all that hope and change bullshit kicks in? Along with jobs? The world loving us? A robust economy? No wars? Peace, love, happiness? All that bullshit he promised the fools who voted for him? Twice!!!! That's when it kicks in?

Gee, thanks for letting us know.
 
Bush is better thought of after obama. We are now seeing what a truly awful president can be.

Thousands dead because of war he wanted? A US city under water because a 20 year project had funding cut, because he had to scrap up money for his personal hatred of Saddam? Thousands dead because of an attack on US shores? All Bush II. Obama isn't great by any estimimation, but "better than Bush II" is a low bar. I think GHWB was ok, myself, his son, horrendous.
 
Ignoring all Presidents before 1960, the US has had many worse than Obama, Buchanan, Pierce, Harding, Tyler, and of course GWB.* All depends on how Obama proceeds the next 2 & 1/2 years.

* I say "better than Bush II isn't enough".

How he proceeds the next two years? Lol

He's made it clear he intends to bypass congress on everything he deems necessary. Dude is an unhinged egomaniac
 
Not only is he the worst president ever (and yes I include Warren Harding and Baby Doc Duvalier) but his administration is run by hacks, cronies, incompetents, and criminals. We see the results: bad economy, deteriorating workforce, sub par military, and scorn from countries around the world.
 
In defense of President Obama. I have stated it before and I will repeat it now. I have always believed that the GOP took a pass on that election knowing what the conditions would be. That also explains why they put in Sarah Palin for VP.
No matter who won the election in 2008 they were going to have a major problem. There would have been some things the GOP would have done differently; but the effect would have been close to, if not the same.
President Obama has done several things I consider to be wrong. I don't think we have ever had a President that couldn't be said for, that is part of a Democracy where different views exist. Extremism was still on the rise and any hope of the two parties working together is almost gone. It would be refreshing to see both sides examine themselves and take a look at what their extremism is doing to the nation. The Right has to realize that having social programs does not make a country socialist or communist. The Left has to realize that having more programs does not solve more problems.
They both have to learn that the government does not operate in an efficient manner and a restructure of our entire system will be the only cure. Do we really need more than a dozen agencies for Indian Affaires? How many agencies deal with Health or Housing or Education?
Our Tax system is a mess and changes made are done with additions.
It would be a major undertaking that would not happen over night but we should be looking at restructuring and redefining the operation of the government. The only way that could be done is by working together to solve our problems.
 
In defense of President Obama. I have stated it before and I will repeat it now. I have always believed that the GOP took a pass on that election knowing what the conditions would be. That also explains why they put in Sarah Palin for VP.
No matter who won the election in 2008 they were going to have a major problem. There would have been some things the GOP would have done differently; but the effect would have been close to, if not the same.
President Obama has done several things I consider to be wrong. I don't think we have ever had a President that couldn't be said for, that is part of a Democracy where different views exist. Extremism was still on the rise and any hope of the two parties working together is almost gone. It would be refreshing to see both sides examine themselves and take a look at what their extremism is doing to the nation. The Right has to realize that having social programs does not make a country socialist or communist. The Left has to realize that having more programs does not solve more problems.
They both have to learn that the government does not operate in an efficient manner and a restructure of our entire system will be the only cure. Do we really need more than a dozen agencies for Indian Affaires? How many agencies deal with Health or Housing or Education?
Our Tax system is a mess and changes made are done with additions.
It would be a major undertaking that would not happen over night but we should be looking at restructuring and redefining the operation of the government. The only way that could be done is by working together to solve our problems.

Yeah, it was all Bush's fault. No one could do any better.

That's utter and complete bullshit. A person would have to be a total simp to believe any o fit.
 
I guess the responses verify my opinion on extremism.
1. I have never said that everything is G.W Bush's fault and never will. I usually say that there is enough blame to go around and pointing fingers has never solved problems
2. I do say that the biggest threat to Democracy we have is the Tea Party and I happen to agree with a lot they want; but their attitude and approach leaves a lot to be desired.
3. We have been heading for the state we find ourselves in long before Bush or Obama held office. I have not seen a good President since Ike.

Extremist are unable to think for themselves which is the reason they do not offer anything constructive. To yield even the slightest amount is the same as defeat, was the first part of their brain-washing process. The Tea Party deservers the comments I will be making more than the Left Extremists as many are claiming association with extreme religious groups. Extremism is conditioning in the case of the Tea Party it begins with the driving force we all have, Greed with most of their effort spent trying to satisfy that area.
While studying for the ministry a fellow student looked at me and said, "The problem I find here is that there is too much religion and not enough Christianity." I thought about his comment for a minute and agreed. Limits can not be placed upon extremism and it just takes control.

"Rabbi's Rule#1: No liberal can argue without posting a logical fallacy or a factual error within 2 posts" if it is impossible for you to even consider the possibility that they can be right on anything, then you are proof of what I said.
 
2. I do say that the biggest threat to Democracy we have is the Tea Party and I happen to agree with a lot they want; but their attitude and approach leaves a lot to be desired.
You've bought the propaganda of the media in their protecting their godson obama from the threat of small government proponents.
Since the tea party is a concept and not an organization and since you agree with their principles you are a tea party member. What is it about your approach that you don't like?
 
Ignoring all Presidents before 1960, the US has had many worse than Obama, Buchanan, Pierce, Harding, Tyler, and of course GWB.* All depends on how Obama proceeds the next 2 & 1/2 years.

* I say "better than Bush II isn't enough".


I do get really tired of the blind hate for Harding. The guy runs the country like a real conservative and pulls the country out of a depression.... in record time..... he has some scandals but it has nothing to do with him and he gets UE down to historic and I do mean historic lows, like 2%ish. What did Harding do that was so bad other than pulling the country out of a depression and get the economy 'roaring" in 18 months?

Now if you wanted to pick on Hoover the progressive Republican sure, or even go after FDR for giving us a lost generation, sure.... But claiming Harding was bad despite an AMAZING term as President when it comes to the actual running of the country, but not even mentioning FDR who had concentration camps, mass unemployment, starving people in the street (literally to death) is just silly.

I know I know, liberals hate Harding and Coolidge, they had a wonderful prosperous time in American history under their policies... Most liberals don;t mention Hoover because they alol know he waited a whoel 6 months before going full blown progressive by policies and failed horrifically.... Just like FDR, FDR the guy that voted against Hoovers policies then expanded them once he became President, oh..... Kinda like GWB to Obama! Funny how that works!
 
2. I do say that the biggest threat to Democracy we have is the Tea Party and I happen to agree with a lot they want; but their attitude and approach leaves a lot to be desired.
You've bought the propaganda of the media in their protecting their godson obama from the threat of small government proponents.
Since the tea party is a concept and not an organization and since you agree with their principles you are a tea party member. What is it about your approach that you don't like?

I find your view of me interesting as it could not be further from the truth. Extremists usually don't care about truth though. The media attempts to turn every event into a spectacular event.
Your statement of the Tea Party reinforces my post. You claim it isn't and organization yet you say if I agree with them I am a member. I am a member of what? I had stated that I agree with some of the issues, not all of them. I believe in Democracy while the Tea Party Members, being the extremists they are, would like to eliminate that aspect of our government. I find myself comparing the Tea Party with the Taliban and Al Qaeda because of their extremist attitudes. The extreme left is just as bad; and their attitudes are the same.

Speaking with an extreme left friend, I made reference to the extreme left and was informed that the left does not have extremists, only the right. Her comment really stopped me in my tracks. That was the extremists see things. They are not extremists, they the point of reference, who considers even moderates as being the other side.

I am for tax reform, a person being responsible for themselves, the elimination of loop holes and a lot more. I believe that business should also accept the responsible. I also believe in honesty and ethics, something extremists occasionally mention but usually ignore.

The Tea Party is the best financed political in the country at the present time. Their selection of candidates and funding of campaigns makes them an organization.
 

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