Poll: Most Democrats Seldom Or Never Attend Church...

[Mr. Shaman]

I prefer to do for myself. I am my own God.

Then your god is a pile of shit.

....As-opposed-to the.....

....real-one....

....Right??

 

[Mr. Shaman]

No, the concepts of individual liberty came from the Magna Carta.

ROFL

You might actually take a peek at the Magna Carta some day.

{1. In the first place we have granted to God, and by this our present charter confirmed for us and our heirs forever that the English Church shall be free,}

Standard Disclaimer: Bigotry blinds, even those with an agenda.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

If you think God is the reason they wrote that charter, you're more blind than you could imagine.

Here is a distinction between us, I've actually read the document. It is a highly religious document that references rights as being granted by God on dozens of occasions.

Gee.....

.....lucky US!!!

 

[uscitizen]

A majority of Democrats -- 52 percent -- say they seldom or never go to church, according to Gallup data published this week, CNSNews.com reports. Twenty percent of Democrats said they went to church nearly weekly or monthly, while 27 percent said they went every week.

As for Republicans, 38 percent said they seldom or never went, while 21 percent said they went nearly weekly or monthly and 40 percent said they went every week. According to the data, Democrats are less religious than the typical American and Republicans are more religious, Gallup says. A related study shows that self-professed conservatives now outnumber self-professed liberals in the United States, 42 percent to 21 percent.

A Majority of Democrats Seldom or Never Go to Church, Says Gallup | CNSnews.com

so if you figure out the percentages there is virtually no difference between the percentage of dems and repubs that do not go to church.

 

[paulitician]

A majority of Democrats -- 52 percent -- say they seldom or never go to church, according to Gallup data published this week, CNSNews.com reports. Twenty percent of Democrats said they went to church nearly weekly or monthly, while 27 percent said they went every week.

As for Republicans, 38 percent said they seldom or never went, while 21 percent said they went nearly weekly or monthly and 40 percent said they went every week. According to the data, Democrats are less religious than the typical American and Republicans are more religious, Gallup says. A related study shows that self-professed conservatives now outnumber self-professed liberals in the United States, 42 percent to 21 percent.

A Majority of Democrats Seldom or Never Go to Church, Says Gallup | CNSnews.com

so if you figure out the percentages there is virtually no difference between the percentage of dems and repubs that do not go to church.

Most didn't bother to look any deeper. They were too busy attacking and comdemning to actually read into it further. I just showed the stats. I didn't say one was better than the other. I just expressed my feelings on getting closer to God. I think the country would be so much better off. But that's how i feel.

 

[Cowman]

I'd respect the religious who don't attend church more than the religious who do. I used to be ultra-conservative and religious... and I kept my religion between me and god away from a church. I didn't need a church.

 

[initforme]

I got closer to god. After 46 years of voting GOP I will never again cast my ballot for the party that says they believe in the bible yet hates the hard working middle class.

 

[uscitizen]

A majority of Democrats -- 52 percent -- say they seldom or never go to church, according to Gallup data published this week, CNSNews.com reports. Twenty percent of Democrats said they went to church nearly weekly or monthly, while 27 percent said they went every week.

As for Republicans, 38 percent said they seldom or never went, while 21 percent said they went nearly weekly or monthly and 40 percent said they went every week. According to the data, Democrats are less religious than the typical American and Republicans are more religious, Gallup says. A related study shows that self-professed conservatives now outnumber self-professed liberals in the United States, 42 percent to 21 percent.

A Majority of Democrats Seldom or Never Go to Church, Says Gallup | CNSnews.com

so if you figure out the percentages there is virtually no difference between the percentage of dems and repubs that do not go to church.

Most didn't bother to look any deeper. They were too busy attacking and comdemning to actually read into it further. I just showed the stats. I didn't say one was better than the other. I just expressed my feelings on getting closer to God. I think the country would be so much better off. But that's how i feel.

Closer to god? I dunno. Too much garbage and politics in church.

Living the lifestyle that jesus told us to live now would certainly imporve things a LOT.

those I consider to be true christians are fine folk.
Those who use religion to justify their own personal agenda are trash.

 

[Cowman]

I got closer to god. After 46 years of voting GOP I will never again cast my ballot for the party that says they believe in the bible yet hates the hard working middle class.

That's kind of why I am the way I am today. I wasn't old enough to vote for Bush the first time, but for his second term I voted him back in. I was very conservative, very religious. I defended bush relentlessly.

I started to slowly see the people around me though, the people who shared my views. I slowly realized that these people were ugly in character. They preached some high and mighty shit, but where always so vindictive and childish and petty... and they loved war. Boy they fucking loved war. Towards 2006 I really started to doubt why I stood by these people. I lost faith in the war, I started to drift left in my social views... and I voted Democrat for the first time during the senate elections. My second vote ever. I just steadily changed personality since then and got more and more liberal, wanting to see social change, more social equality. Drifted away from my anti-gay stance, drifted away from my pro-war stance, drifted away from my religion. All thanks to the ugly natured people around me. It was the political religious that turned me away from god and a conservative mindset.


I gotta say though, dropping my religion was a very hard thing to do, but it was also one of the biggest contributors to the stability of my mental state. It's a hard thing to be raised warned of hell, thinking you're always going to go to hell UNLESS YOU DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS. Shit got old.

 

[mskafka]

I got closer to god. After 46 years of voting GOP I will never again cast my ballot for the party that says they believe in the bible yet hates the hard working middle class.

That's kind of why I am the way I am today. I wasn't old enough to vote for Bush the first time, but for his second term I voted him back in. I was very conservative, very religious. I defended bush relentlessly.

I started to slowly see the people around me though, the people who shared my views. I slowly realized that these people were ugly in character. They preached some high and mighty shit, but where always so vindictive and childish and petty... and they loved war. Boy they fucking loved war. Towards 2006 I really started to doubt why I stood by these people. I lost faith in the war, I started to drift left in my social views... and I voted Democrat for the first time during the senate elections. My second vote ever. I just steadily changed personality since then and got more and more liberal, wanting to see social change, more social equality. Drifted away from my anti-gay stance, drifted away from my pro-war stance, drifted away from my religion. All thanks to the ugly natured people around me. It was the political religious that turned me away from god and a conservative mindset.


I gotta say though, dropping my religion was a very hard thing to do, but it was also one of the biggest contributors to the stability of my mental state. It's a hard thing to be raised warned of hell, thinking you're always going to go to hell UNLESS YOU DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS. Shit got old.

Wow! You have got guts! I was very conservative until I was 28, and everything was black and white. Homeless people were just lazy. EVERYONE should be a Christian. ALL democrats were boring socialists ruining this country...and on and on.

Then my complacency veil was shattered. A series of bad things happened to me in a row. Bordering on homelessness and being flat broke, it was time to reevaluate life. It was at that time that I realized that maybe I'd been too hard on others, and basically karma had come back to get me. And like you, I'd begun to see some of my cohorts who were conservative were not very nice, or forgiving people.

But you know that not every conservative or Christian is inherently bad. It sounds like maybe you were around a few bad apples, and it has jaded you. It all depends on what is most important to you. A conservative recently told me-"You liberals need to stop thinking about people's feelings so much. It's not about feelings. It's business." It was a rude awakening, and very disturbing, but she was right. That is the way that a lot of people view this country. That it's all business, and that nothing else is important.

I happen to disgree with that; but I don't hate the people who do. It is what it is.

 

[Inthemiddle]

It is funny that you include liberty and God in the same sentence.

The concepts of individual liberty come from the Christian religion.

Ah, yes.....another o' those.....

....moral-Absolutes....

....no doubt.

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It's a shame that there are so many hacks out there that actually believe that. Even if we were to entertain the notion that the concept of liberty is enshrined within any given religion, his argument would be BS. There is nothing in Christian dogma or standard belief that even comes close to addressing or suggesting or teaching individual liberty. On the other hand, we can find religious traditions that predate Christianity that do positively teach concepts of individual liberty.

But, individual liberty, in regards to government intrusion into people's lives and laws (which influenced our founding fathers), actually comes from enlightenment era philosophical beliefs. Not religion.